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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+71The awesome thing is how Google ignores this problem and continues serving Adsense ads on the sites. Not only are they indexing this guy's billions of spam pages but they are paying him for it.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -3/+57everyone report them please:
http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html - canespa, on 10/12/2007, -5/+47Totally amazing ... Google decides to deindex legitimate sites and index sites like this wtf?
- ajcannon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32shakamunya, you do realize that digg is a lamp site also, don't you? digg is well under 2000 on Alexa and it's doing just fine with php/mysql/apacha/linux
- msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32Great article. I almost want to do this myself.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Have you tried Yahoo!'s Mindset search? It allows you to vary the results with a slider between Commercial and Informational webpages:
http://mindset.research.yahoo.com/search.php?p=shakespeare - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15"Spammers get priority in googles mind."
Google CFO: Fraud a big threat
http://digg.com/technology/Google_CFO:_Fraud_a_big_threat_
submitted by DanTekGeek 561 days ago
Apparently so. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17When you have a lot of ad inventory to sell I guess you can't turn down this many page views. I hope Adwords advertisers notice this sort of thing and turn off content-site delivery.
- fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14No point in getting mad at Google?
Why not? Google lets ***** like this proliferate, but shuts out honest sites. Sites like this only exist because Google is okay with them.
Google hasn't been true to it's motto in years. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13my friend does this, he make about $600 - $1000 a day on adsense. So there is def motive for this, I've been tempted to try myself
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I work for a site similar in traffic numbers that is also a LAMP site, so no doubt-- PHP can handle it if properly prepared. But if you look at the spike on Alexa for his domains, it looks like a cliff. I doubt he planned to be this successful. I think his "unique page generator" was worked too well; I don't think you'd want this kind of attention as an MFA spammer.
If you grow your hardware into this sort of traffic situation, no problem... but I'm sure his site is slow because he is succesful beyond imagination. It is tough to handle that sort of traffic with only a few days to plan. - mindlessxd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Wrong. http://www.google.com/search?q=war+on+terror+pro+cons
And warez sites have been using this sub-domain cheating method for years. - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11It's a bit sad how Google never seem to update their web search engine and algorithms, at least given the search results you get nowadays. From being rare, their results seem to get increasingly saturated with spam and link farms, so whatever much/little Google is doing now to counter it, spammers keep getting further ahead. I think it has got to the level they need to start taking care of these things for real by improving their algorithms or trying to come up with other more innovative counters, instead of developing new services sometimes not even search related.
- NoMoreNicksLeft, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11At a guess? Even with clickthrough rates of 1/10th percent, the guy would have to be raking it in. Especially with some of the high-paying keywords (supposedly lawyeresque keywords can be $20 each).
I would guess no less than thousands each day, maybe many many times that. - ionut, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Who told you the company is Romanian?
Some WHOIS facts:
http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=t1ps2see.com&type=domain
http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=eiqz2q.org&type=domain - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9remadot:>>Great link about Yahoo midset shakamunya. Its exactly what I need to disregard ads.
As an affiliate marketer, I hate it.. but as a web user I think it is brilliant and I wonder why it hasn't caught on. - ech0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10why would they do click fraud when they are getting legit users?
- canespa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10ITS ROMANIAN >>> ENJOY!!!!
Registration Service Provided By: INTERNET MEDIA SRL
Contact: 373.69105310
Domain Name: T1PS2SEE.COM
Registrant:
Tips 2 see SRL
Brausova Elena ()
Grenoblea 10
Iasi
,2983
RO
Tel. 40.98198289
Creation Date: 25-May-2006
Expiration Date: 25-May-2007
Domain servers in listed order:
ns2.t1ps2see.com
ns.t1ps2see.com
Administrative Contact:
Tips 2 see SRL
Brausova Elena ()
Grenoblea 10
Iasi
,2983
RO
Tel. 40.98198289
Technical Contact:
Tips 2 see SRL
Brausova Elena ()
Grenoblea 10
Iasi
,2983
RO
Tel. 40.98198289
Billing Contact:
Tips 2 see SRL
Brausova Elena ()
Grenoblea 10
Iasi
,2983
RO
Tel. 40.98198289
Status:ACTIVE
by these terms. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Thanks, that was the original source. I was going to post that to DIGG originally but the URL is banned so I blogged it.
- bigdaddyforums, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Pretty sure it's these guys that are responsible:
http://spamhuntress.com/wiki/Evgheni_Tariuc
Check the whois info on the domain that everything redirect to. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The subdomains haven't worked on Google in 2 or 3 years, though. Their recent infrastructure change to "BigDaddy" has brought the problem back in a big way to the Google index.
- canespa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I'm starting to suspect that these guys are hitting billions and billions of pages. Here's a complete list of their sites involved. If each site has 1 billion pages .. do the math! man o man!!
1. 05s9.info 0 listings 0 listings
2. 16jk.info 0 listings 0 listings
3. 1er6.info 0 listings 0 listings
4. 207f.info 0 listings 0 listings
5. 2cxa.info 0 listings 0 listings
6. 37rs4.info 0 listings 0 listings
7. 7r31.info 0 listings 0 listings
8. d7n0s.info 0 listings 0 listings
9. eiqz2q.org 0 listings 0 listings
10. ffd7.info 0 listings 0 listings
11. gsw0.info 0 listings 0 listings
12. h13lu.info 0 listings 0 listings
13. hdtl0k.org 0 listings 0 listings
14. ivmcqo.org 0 listings 0 listings
15. j153.info 0 listings 0 listings
16. mcl17.info 0 listings 0 listings
17. mik8.info 0 listings 0 listings
18. mro196.org 0 listings 0 listings
19. n774.info 0 listings 0 listings
20. odyzfe.org 0 listings 0 listings
21. rfni70.org 0 listings 0 listings
22. s358v.info 0 listings 0 listings
1. cmmdrs.org 0 listings 0 listings
2. etlz8o.org 0 listings 0 listings
3. h1ban1.info 0 listings 0 listings
4. jkthy0.org 0 listings 0 listings
5. ovu22c.org 0 listings 0 listings
6. qge6f7.org 0 listings 0 listings
7. rbynh6.org 0 listings 0 listings
8. t1ps2see.org 0 listings 0 listings
9. tuup2s.org 0 listings 0 listings
10. wxfuu3.org 0 listings 0 listings
11. ywt8g1.org 0 listings 0 listings
12. cgq7wm.org 0 listings 0 listings
13. geku8h.org 0 listings 0 listings
14. viwhha.org 0 listings 0 listings
15. wmy1om.org 0 listings 0 listings
16. wwn8hg.org 0 listings 0 listings
17. azz5pq.org 0 listings 0 listings - techlh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7and who cares about getting banned? simply copy everything to another domain and start over.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7He has changed the site since this was posted. Most of the domains now seem to be redirecting to the main t1ps2see.com.
This is getting even better.... so now when you get redirected to that domain, you get a list of generic looking results. Click on any of the results and you're redirected to yet more crappy sites, this time showing Yahoo! Publisher Network ads instead of Adsense! He is milking both of them. - FishyJoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I bet these guys aren't limiting themselves to spamming. I'm sure there is plenty of click fraud going on as well.
- hackaroxp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7OMG! Look at the graphic. http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=3m&size=medium&compare_sites=&y=r&url=eiqz2q.org#top
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8While not fraud, you must admit these sites are "Made For Adsense" which is against the T&C.
- dpower, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9This really sucks and makes me quite annoyed! No point getting mad at Google- what these people are doing to the internet should be a crime. I'm sick to death of these goddamn spam sites. BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Takteek, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Is everyone looking at the eiqz2q.org pages or something? They are all really slow for me.... Maybe we can kill the spammer with the digg effect. :)
- ocram, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"How exactly did you get that info?"
Go to http://www.publicdomainregistry.com/whois/ and look up the domain t1ps2see.com - modpancake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I am also getting hits for just about anything I search for...
"search carrot" - he's the number one result, and the ninth.
"green beans trash" - he's third down.
"utensils hogwash" - he's eighth down.
Out of the five random searches I performed, he showed up in these three. Wow. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6In addition to spamming google, they also got a news post on the front page of one of the most popular technology news sites, digg.com. So now they got plenty of exposure too!
- FishyJoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Greed.
- tek1024, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6There's a discussion about this at the DigitalPoint Forums, too, a friend pointed out to me earlier today:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=97090 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9You're right, my apologies to Romania. Alexa says it is from Argentina:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main?q=eiqz2q.org&url=eiqz2q.org - wlloydda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5WTF? Everything I search for on Google comes up with 4-5 of his sites on the first page!
Google has to ban his ass quick or there won't be any eyeballs let alone clicks.
People are searching for information, NOT ads. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's the search engine of search engines
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Then why does he have Alexa rankings of under 2000 and under 7000 after only 3 weeks? TRAFFIC and lots of it. It doesn't matter if the phrases are obscure or he is on page 2, if you have enough of those rankings, you will have a lot of pageviews.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Wow, That is really good.. I love it.
- khag7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6so, somoene smart who would probably know: how much money is this guy making from this?
- projectducky, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12Don't sit around on your hands and do nothing about this!
Report spam at http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -15/+19If there is enough interest, I'll write a script to mimic his site and release it for free. It would be fun to see how much crap we could stuff into Google at once.
- Shipley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4well that tears it, every category on my blog is getting a subdomain now. I'm not making 5 billion, but if I can make a dozen or so and make enough to cover my internet bill, I'll be a happy jackass.
- MihaiM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm working really hard to make money with AdSense from my sites. I keep expanding, I pay people for content, etc.
I hate to see someone doing this scam - trialofmiles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If anyone's wondering what AdamLasnik's talking about with the "site: queries" comment, it has to do with complaints many webmasters have made that Google has been dropping legitimate pages from their index after their last big update.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Good catch; starnet.md appears all over the whois info of these current domains.
- radu79, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Oh well, I guess I was wrong :/
- Corvillus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yes, Digg does use PHP, and a lot of sites that handle high loads do, but they typically aren't serving every single request with PHP (or at least not with a bunch of database queries). Usually, some sort of system to cache requests as static HTML is used to save CPU time. This spam site was obviously not really designed to scale well, just a half assed deal to get as many ad impressions as possible.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Try anything involving food or a recipe...
"best roast pork sirloin"
"steak cooking perfectly"
"pizza sauce recipe" (go a page or two down, he has them all)
http://www.google.com/search?q=pizza%20sauce%20recipe&start=30 - AdamLasnik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Hey there,
I'm on the Search Quality Team at Google. We're aware of the situation that's been discussed here.
In particular, I wanted to note a couple of things:
1) Our engineers recently noticed that our site: queries (number of results listed for a search) were showing bizarre results. This has turned out to be tied to a bad data push, and we're fixing this right now.
2) I am *NOT* on the AdSense team, but I'd hope common sense would suggest to fellow Digg'ers that a click on an AdSense ad does not necessarily result in a charge to an advertiser and a credit to a publisher. -
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