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- phpirate, on 10/12/2007, -5/+65Yes. Innovation is killing the Internet now.
- spikes, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24Just like how all new innovation is killing the music and movie industry MAFIAA.
- AudioMove, on 10/12/2007, -19/+38Goggle is in my opionion the best search engine on the internet. Yes google often create means for companies and individuals to take advantage of but not intentionally. Goggle also monitor alot and i heard part if not all of a car comany's website (i think BMW) was banned from appearing in search results after they took advantage of googles indexing methods. Their just seems to be no balanced argument in this article and gets NO DIGG.
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18It was the German BMW site that was using a fake page with common BMW that only displayed to Google and real visitors got the German BMW site. It wasn't a big deal because after Google removed them from the index BMW just changed that setup and Google started indexing the real site again.
- macman81, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Google = optional. Don't use it if you don't agree with it.
- shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19What a silly and biased article.
"Google's roughly 60% stranglehold on Web search, which gives it a pretty effective monopoly......Markets don't correct without competition and information, and I don't think there's enough of either here to make a difference. Yet."
and how is that Google's fault if their competition sucks? if Google's adsense wasn't around, Yahoo or Microsoft would simply take its place.
The author had no content to backup that title. I pity the Fool. - kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I've always thought there was only one true threat to privacy, the law.
Everyone stores data. It's what's done with it that matters. I can hardly see
google putting themselves in the position of publicly endorsing the search
habits of their users being saved and analyzed by the government. It would
be evil. I think you may be focusing on the wrong angle of the problem, but
your fear is legitimate.
In a country so politically divided, our worse fears should not be about
marketing data. - Hickeroar, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14yaknow, everyone is always whining in the news about how terrible the google search results are and how awful their result quality is...
The funny thing is that i always find what i'm looking for somewhere on the first page of google results. I havent a clue what these blithering fools are talking about. - slyckidiot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Oh good, another AdSense is the end of the world post. Look, we all know AdSense is broken. I'm pretty sure it's not going to break the mighty internets any time soon though. Fraud is going to exist with or without Google. What a freaking sensationalist article.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10how does it "kill" innovation exactly?
- unspun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well at least his bias is obvious with statements like:
"Any of you try searching lately? Notice the astounding lack of quality across the board",
"Google's roughly 60% stranglehold on Web search",
"large-scale click fraud, there's little doubt in my mind that we've got Google to thank for it.",
"Big Goo is so desperate to get you to use its new online spreadsheet in addition to Gmail, and chat, and its desktop snooping -- I mean search -- tool",
"Google Smarty Pantses -- who are getting fat on stock options and gourmet meals at the Big Goo campus"
Lest even considering how the whole article starts out with with several completely unrelated bits of FUD, (which is, in and of itself, interesting) - unspun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6You look forward to Microsoft beating Google??
My faith in humanity has just been reduced ever so slightly - Virak, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Author is an idiot; he claims "GOOGLE IS KILLING TEH INTERNETS!", then goes on a rant about how Google is making it hard to find stuff on the web, particularly with search engines. The web is only part of the Internet, and search engines are only a very small part of the web. No digg for stupidly incorrect title and general idiocy.
- Bullrun, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10The article brings up some facintating thoughts about Google Ad hacks.
What really is amazing is the graph showing how much the "insiders" at Google are selling their shares.
Receiving stock options in lue of other benefits is nothing new in the world of large businesses.
The staggering amount of stock sold gives pause.
This is worthy of a "digg". - projectducky, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7"The Motley Fool" is right. What a moron. This guy is 70% MS paid troll and 30% Joe sixpack who doesn't realize it's not Google's fault that click fraud and link-farms exist. Before you start complaining about it, remember: Google is not charging anything for you to use their search engine. If you don't like it, go away. Can't believe this made front page.
- dshigure, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Hmm, a web article claiming how "google is killing the internet" that is plastered with more annoying ads than content, a slew of "sponsored links", and topped off with a "Web 2.0" technology designed to get around your pop-up filter.
The irony is killing me. - chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I love the Google lover logic: Microsoft makes and OS that becomes the most popular and thus the most exploited so of course they are evil. Google makes the most successful advertising company (oh, I mean 'search engine') on the internet which gets exploited to the point of making a good majority of the links it returns completely worthless and people stick up for them.
I'm no Microsoft lover (Mac user, actually) but Bill Gates said it right: "Search is broken. When you search for something you should just get back a bunch of links. You should actually get the information you were searching for." - KenLin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What business model? Google's advertiser system is copied from Overture, a company acquired by Yahoo!. Google has since paid Yahoo! to settle.
- chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4No one needs a crappy spreadsheet. Seriousy, no charting, no pivot tables?? Laughable.
- b0n0, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9The writer fails to mention Google's greatest assests:
The search history of all its users
The browsing patterns of thousands of users through its adsense network and its new analyzer
This information is worth a whole lot more than the ad revenue its currently generating. Think datamining 70% of all searches and every page request that includes an adsense ad. Google is the next biggest threat to privacy.
http://www.digg.com/technology/Google_is_the_Next_Bad_Thing - sirwnstn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I can't agree with the author entirely. I'll agree that Google's popularity has certainly changed the way the internet is now, but is it entirely Google's fault that people are putting up junky sites tailored to take advantage of the way Google's search engine works, just to get hits? The internet is constantly changing. I'm hoping Google will change with it in the innovative way I've always known them for.
- remcgregor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Ummmm, the vast majority of comparable services on the internet were free before Google began offering them numbnuts. Google Finance vs. Yahoo! Finance and MSN Money, Gmail vs Yahoo! Mail and Hotmail, Google Calendar vs. Yahoo! Calendar and MSN Calendar, Google Maps vs. Mapquest, Google News vs. CNN, MSNBC, Yahoo! News, BBC, ABC, etc.
Do I really need to go on and list almost all of Google's services that had free alternatives before Google? - jarcoal, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6free products drive out competitors selling (potentially) better products that cost money. can you imagine anyone competing with google spreadsheet or calendar even if they know they have a better product that costs $5 bucks? this is a problem in all industries though, not just tech.
- chess007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"At the time of publication, Seth Jayson had shares of Microsoft but held no positions in any other company mentioned. View his stock holdings and Fool profile here. Microsoft is a Motley Fool Inside Value recommendation. Netflix and eBay are Stock Advisor recommendations. (Whew.)"
Does that seem like an unbias source? ...
I have not noticed a decline and the quality of google searches. I do think that "link farms" should be black listed. They should do something about that. - NexusOfNow, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5The article makes a good point, but other posters are right, there's more to it. Want to know why Google makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up? If information is tracked and stored, info can be hacked, subpoena'd, etc...
- cjmovie, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5It's not Google's fault people are trying to take advantage of them. Some people are willing to use any way they can to scam us. I garuantee that Google is doing something, because many people know about it now and I know Google is interested in KEEPING its business.
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Stop spamming your story, Ctrl.
- VorpalK, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Motley Fool, as an aggressive investment site, has a vested interest in seeing that Net Neutrality is struck down and the Telcos can proceed with raping the public with excessive charges for data (which is what COULD kill the internet). Of course they're going to present a biased view of companies like Google. When Sprint's (or Microsoft's) stock goes up, the lying ***** who wrote this article profits.
- crackityjonesjr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What is a "looser"?
- Nyfeh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If its impossible to fix, how is it killing, exactly? If we're going to apply such strong language, it needs to at least fit. I always thought of killing as something that didn't have to happen. Its pretty easy to not kill...
- mikebritton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The person who wrote this article will regret it a few years from now. Google killing the Internet? Like the Internet killed print? Like video killed the radio star? These doomsday soothsayers are a dime a dozen; their articles could be spit out by a simple program.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4We don't need Google anyway :-)
Babe Search Engine:
http://digg.com/technology/Babe_Search_Engine - Genma, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3the fact that google continues to deliver quality searches in _spite_ of all the admongering says that they do plenty about it. any other sites I've seen from back in the day that had sponsored or ranked advertising were polluted to garbage in no time one after the other, as soon as the ads took over. at least when I enter a search in google I know that the first pages will always bring me the most relevant info on the subject from anywhere on the net. ad pages are easy to spot from the abstract anyways, and they never outrank the good ones to begin with so I have no idea what he is whining about. if you use operators and be as specific as possible you can eliminate ad pages to begin with, since they all target broad search strings. ***** FUD from a biased MS stock holder, _lame_. sounds like he just got off the short bus and discovered adsense.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There will always be premium products and products with a low or free price alternative. Does MS excel compete with google spreadsheet? barely. The comes a point where the development costs become too high to offer a product for free. Professional development companies specialising in this sort of this picks up where they left off- They offer a product to businesses and consumers that NEED a tool which can say work out the standard deviation of a set of data instantly. Do limos compete with taxis? nope, they're aimed at completely different markets.
Hell, does openoffice crimp innovation too by offering itself for free? alternatives increase competition and make way for better and bigger products. If there was no competition, you might have a killer product and might have some killer innovations to add to it but why release them now when you can earn more money slowly releasing slightly better versions of your product to give you more money?
So yeah... how does google kill innovation by offering a free alternative? - CalPaterson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Most imporant part of the article is the part at the bottom where it says she has all her eggs in one basket with Microsoft shares. She only owns Microsoft.
Agreed that Google is hyped, but she's massively underestimating them, and has motives for doing so. - carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3iono, but linux, apache, my-sql, and others must be halting it in it's tracks...
- whovian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Google may be king of search, but at times I will get more blogs and pages with lip service than deep content. For content, Wikipedia is the place.
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Only Congress can ACTUALLY ruin the internet....
Damn politicians.... - elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nexus, I didn't even read your comment because I saw the spammy link at the bottom. Try again.
- joeshlub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ah the beauty of Adblock.
- ogletree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you do a search and all you find is junk and if the junk sites did not exist all you would find would be results that are way off topic or nothing. If you know how to search you can find what you are looking for. If all you can find is junk then either you don't know how to search right or there is just nothing out there that matches your search. Any real site can beat junk sites very easily. The biggest problems are that most legit sites have no clue about search. They make flash sites and put their company name as the title of every page. If all real companies just put a tiny amount of effort into setting proper titles and naming their sites crawlable by the search engines it would be hard to find junk websites.
- webcrumb, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5I don't. Adblock Plus 0.5.11.3 + Filterset.G 0.3.0.4.
It may be an alternate doubleclick domain or something. - remcgregor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"They exist to create headlines as they begin to lose the vice-like grip on search they once had."
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that Google continues to grow their lead in search, and is now at almost 60% of the search market, up from a month ago? Of course, those are just statistics coming from reliable companies who specialize in this kind of research. - Burmask, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The fact that google-bombing still exists shows Google can be manipulated, and is (thanks seo guys), which has led to this corruption of data as the author puts it.
- kmikz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2If it's ruining the Internet then why are Yahoo and MSN in such a hurry to copy their business model?
- fluffyturtle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The last time I ran into "link farms" and "scraper sites" was when I used a search engine to find porn.
The ONLY time I run into "spam blogs" is reading Digg lol.
It really isn't that big of a deal. I use google (insert any search engine) to find information while working or even for hobbies and I don't run into them.
As for spam blogs, digg users typically spot them, sometimes. It's not like you can completely get rid of them and it isn't the end of the world.
I bet some people don't even realize there are groups of people here on Digg.com that are ONLY here to digg links they are told to. No joke.
Just life though, how everything works. - StephnDolenc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the author of this article is stupid. none of his complaints are google's fault.
- tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3While I'm inclined to agree with you, it some situations it's *not* optional ... think Google Analyitics, for one. You and I might know how to block it from working, but most poeple have no freakin' idea, and probably don't even know that it's "tracking" them in the first place.
- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Google execs selling google stock? Nah, a story like that would never make it on digg...
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