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- m3mn0n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23No need to take a shot at YouTube.. every site has good and bad traits. Both Digg and YouTube fit that mold.
"A visual map of digging behavior on Digg"
What ever happened to good old days when people posted pie charts and bar graphs? That picture looks like someone that comes out of my printer when it goes all retarded on me. Am I the only one who found that confusing and awkward?
But overall, good article. - LoveWidescreen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14"Data-visualization tools and community policing help keep Digg's social news site legitimate and valuable to its readers."
Whoops! Capn_Caveman left out the rest of the statement: "as long as you don't mind the censorship of differing opinions, even those that are well-articulated, (while those same people espouse the virtues of 'free speech') and that you follow along with the excessively left-leaning Digg groupthink." - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11But all that technology doesn't help prevent the overal tripe (labelled 'news') that rolls by the front page
- gypsumfantastic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"Data-visualization tools and community policing help keep Digg's social news site legitimate and valuable to its readers."
No they don't! This place is awash with hysterical or inaccurate headlines (with no way to rectify them) and then people digging articles without bothering to read the articles or even make a cursory check of their validity. Most annoyingly, it seems that every other post is sodding blogspam.
I like Digg, I really do. But a lot of the time, it embodies the Idiocy of Crowds. - Xageroth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@Sphonix
From the image caption?
"The horizontal axis represents Digg users; the newest are on the far right. The vertical axis represents stories; the newest are at the bottom. Each dot on the map represents a digg, with red dots belonging to a story’s first digg. The horizontal white lines represent digging activity for a popular story."
@m3mn0n, the age we're in has people playing with new ways of representing data. Pie charts and bar graphs still have their place but I kind of like seeing new ways of representing data. Digg labs would actually be an example of that =P - mweflen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Yeah, shouldn't this article be titled:
"How Digg Tries to Combat Cheaters, but Fails, Leading to a Torrent of Useless Goddamn Blogspam?" - Sphonix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@m3mn0n
Your not kidding. I still can't decode it. I'd like a bigger picture, or at least an example of what a particular dot really means. - YellowBook, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6[quote].... Although Digg doesn't keep statistics on the number of gaming attempts since the site went live in late 2004, Rose says that "no organization has been able to successfully game Digg to our knowledge." [/quote]
There is a lot of gaming going on and I don't think it's possible to fully eliminate gaming from Digg or to claim that you have been able to stop it from happening when it quite clearly has been going on for a long time. Digg (and all other popular social news sites to be fair) have a huge problem in this area. There are some very clever spammers out there who will invent any scheme (legitimate or otherwise) to get their ad revenue up. Heck, there are even websites that will pay users money to Digg particular articles. - cakefart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Keeping digg 'legitimate' is analogous to keeping Kevin Federline 'talented'.
It's already jumped the shark, in AN AMAZING UBUNTU SAYS IT ALL sort of way. - xister, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Quote redguard:"If only the people at Youtube were as smart as the folks here."
Seriously- I can't even read the comments over there any more. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Digg jumped the shark as soon as Digg devotees starting digging web pages about Digg.
- bennybertow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'd not only be interested in a larger picture, but also an interactive map which gets updated constantly. Would make an interesting screensaver... looking like starfield, but with some logic behind it.
- ayeroxor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"help keep Digg's social news site legitimate and valuable to its readers."
If this were truly a standard Digg headline representative of the Digg community, the submitter would have used "it's". - eolite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3is anyone else reminded of the matrix?
- Sphonix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Digg has much potiental for greatness and misuse ("with great power comes great responsiblity") and it is nice to see that digg can crack down on those who attempt to abuse the system. It would be pretty cool to analyse all that data.
- ch28kid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yes those users are usually on the front page, but are those not quality content?
If the content is not good, you can always Blur it NO? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Neat. If only the people at Youtube were as smart as the folks here.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@cakefart: +mod for the jump the shark comment.
And to a large extent I agree. I think that Digg has reached the peak of its 'effectiveness'.
It was a great study in social systems adaptation, but just like youtube and so many other sites, it's popularity has exceeded it's own benefit. - diafel, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6This is a joke right? Digg does nothing to combat cheaters. Just look at the front page: more than half of the stories are from the same 20 users who use tens of accounts to promote their stories. I have consistently drawn attention to their fraud in the comments and have consistently been dugg down because of it. The only way for this so-called democracy to work is for the administrators of Digg to put their foot down on the handful of users who are slowly sucking the life from it: MrBabyMan, curtissthompson, CLIFFosakaJAPAN, supernova17, digitalgopher, webtickle, webtech, etc.
- b_timmins, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It's definitely not frivolous, the vertical white lines are obviously very meaningful, as you can see if you read the article.
- g3r4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No, but they might take action on users created at almost the exact same time that digg a story that usually wouldn't have 500+ diggs in 3 minutes :P
- dan9876, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Exactly. One of these days there might be a homepage article on how to game digg.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1please please please can we get a Digg category
- sv650touring, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If only the people at youtube were as smart?
I doubt that keeps them up at night while they sleep on big piles of cash. - h0dg3s, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Digg's way of combating cheaters =
1. Take money from cheaters(a.k.a. Apple)
2. Let cheaters fill digg with their blogspam and Apple products
95%+ of front page stories are either apple related, blogspam, or both - jriley101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The word is that sites like http://www.friendlyvote.com still works.
- rhys18383, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No, the idea is that they are digging lots of stories at the same time.
While people might do this anyway, they are unlikely to do it in the sheer volume that bots do it or in the time frame, e.g. if an account has digged 40 stories in ten minutes, it is highly unlikely that that account holder has had time to read the stories before digging them which suggests foul play - ray901, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2and you can multi-digg someone - just like I did you .....
- SuperMank, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It means basically more dots in the bottom right = bad.
(more new diggers digging new stories, i.e. higher chance of foul play or whatever. - csimpkins, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Or, they could just pull some numbers. Sure, they don't look as cool... but they're just as accurate (if not more) and probably easier to use.
The visualization shown in the article just seems frivolous to me. - z0zin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1So what are they going to do with that weird graph? Ban anybody that happens to Digg a story at the wrong time, because that's what a bot might do?
- cowardlydragon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Had enough of public relations sanitized press releases and double speak from being at work, watching the news, reading newspapers, and listening to the radio?
Hell No!
Read them on your favorite community news web site. The community loves digg.com to talk about itself. Only positively though. A lot. A least one per page. See Kevin Rose talk about how he Loves Fruity Pebbles! - NorthStateGonzo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1YouTube is they are cooking up a Keyword Selection Tool...
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