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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Dude, hollywood is baing lame about this. How the heck do they have any power to stop good technology?
- Ub3rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25Until you develop wireless power as well, there's still at least 1 wire.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16It's all about money.
- Carazariah, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19ugh. . . Great Technical product get rid of the wires . . . now if Hollywood and MPAA would stay out of the way!
C - clownguyx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Market demand will prevail.
- kushed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Who gives a ***** what MPAA says. Samsung is international company, go ahead and release your product all over the place but U.S. I'll find a way to import mine (TAX free).
Clownguyx is dead on, Market demand always prevails. - Rufunki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10How about if TV manufactures got together, and told the movie companies with there drm to go screw, sell the tv's for cheap, and those companies that want to play ball with the tv manufactures will actually sell dvd's vs those that don't, won't, and see how long this bs lasts.
- bemenaker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Screw Hollywood Samsung, do what is right for your business and sell the damn things. The consumers will back you.
- airwalkery2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Well, at least we elect the leaders of Hollywood each year so we can vote for a change! Right?
- klawz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Wireless Power is right around the corner:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6129460.stm
Even at CES 2007, they were showing prototypes for cell phones (recharging), etc. - nicepants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Induction is technically wireless power. An induction loop could be installed within a wall, and the TV mounted to that wall would get it's power wirelessly through the wall. Though this method isn't exactly the most practical, considering the ease of just running a cord through the wall, compared to mounting an induction loop.
- sibhod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Seriously, how does the MPAA have any say in what technology is released at all? Are they threatening to sue, and if so on what basis? Seems to me there's already precedence with the sony VCR case, and fair use.
- odinfire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6All DRM does is make the price of products go up and they still get hacked anyway. Just about the only piece of electronics in my home that does not have a hacked firmware on it or some sort of crack is my television. Looks like that is soon to change.
Will they ever learn? They're just wasting money with DRM and building themselves a bad reputation in the long run of being anti-consumer. - klawz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Not just money, but CONTROL
- devobergso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5My toothbrush has been charged wirelessly for a few years now.
- theonedigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5What the Heck?!?
How is it that Hollywood has any control WHATSOEVER over what HDTV Displays come to market?
How is this not collusion or against anti-trade practices. WTF? Samsung can't deliver a TV set that meets consumer demand without Hollywood getting a say so? Get ready to boycott whichever studio is ready to try this nonsense. The blog community will have a field day.
Really doesn't matter whether the world is ready for a Wireless HD Display. Not really the point here...it's whether Samsung has the right to sell their product in the marketplace without restraint of trade. Hollywood just seems to get more and more stupid over time. Talk about slow learners!! - Suchmann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5And Powercast is the company that will bring it to us. http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2007/04/01/8403349/
Man do i want Powercast stock.... - subscriber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is an example of where copyright concerns are being used to prevent innovation -- exactly the opposite of why copyrights were created in the first place. Time to take a new look at copyright laws, they no longer serve their original purpose.
- Anagrama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4From my cell phone to my air conditioner to my LCD TV, Samsung has a faithful customer in me. I'm not saying they are perfect, but solidly built with features that friends who have similar products from other manufacturers ohh and ahh over.
That is good business in my book. - HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They're lying. They act as if 1080p and 720p are treated differently by Hollywood. It's not true.
They're just covering for something. It's dumb anyway. - Hubris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Very slowly....the industry will scream, bang their fists and cry - but eventually listen to the market.
- straxus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Supply and demand are not the only two forces at work in our market.
- RedHerringHack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The wireless signal isn't the weak point in the hdcp chain anyway.
- orlyfactor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Wow, hollywood has no shortage of complete *****, do they?
- thomashallock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2FTA: "the movie studios are worried that the wireless transmission methods used for the displays—which uses 802.11n—may not be tight enough to keep people from hijacking (that is, recording) the HD content stripped of its DRM."
... so why don't they just keep their DRM on the stream until it gets to the display? - cmearns, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There have been a few companies that have been working on wireless power for a while now. I think it was actually originally based on tesla's research. Here is a demo of the tech on cnettv. I want this!
http://www.cnettv.com/9710-1_53-25606.html
The company is powercast.
http://www.powercastco.com/
suchmann beat me to it. Enjoy the video anyway. - codemonkeysteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Ub3rg33k:
> Until you develop wireless power as well, there's still at least 1 wire.
Actually two wires: power and ground. - MatthJD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Put in all the encryption you want. Experience has shown that it gets hacked in a very short period of time. Meanwhile you've alienated your consumers again.
- jkoski, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Um.... because I'd rather not have all those cables to deal with behind my equipment and/or components separated by a few feet with all those cables running between them looks like *****? My wireless game controllers work just fine...
- Alex76, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow. I am still confused as to what would happen if Samsung were to release such a device. Would they get sued by the MPAA or what?
- paleh0rse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21080p over 802.11n?!? no thank you! That would require some RIDCULOUS compression! HDMI 1.3 offers roughly 10.2 Gbps, while 802.11n maxes out at a theoretical 300 Mbps, and these TV's are rated at only 150 Mbps.
If you want to send uncompressed 1080p/60 signals to your TV, you're going to need roughly 2.5 to 3.0 Gbps... and it will be YEARS before any wireless can reach that mark.
Throw in the required power cord making the TV "wired." duh.
Bottom line: these TV's are pointless. - actorboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"Seriously, how does the MPAA have any say in what technology is released at all?"
Congratulations and welcome to the world of media spin, my friend. Hollywood doesn't have any say. What you're looking at are two entities working together to find a common ground to benefit them both --- not one entity dictating to the other. - Ub3rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"all those cables" would still have to be wired to a box which transmits to the TV. If you don't like "all those cables", you could just get a receiver to convert it all to one HDMI for you. Yamaha just came out with one that MSRP's for $999 and will probably be less on the street. You need a surround system to complement the HDTV, so why not?
Your wireless controllers aren't being asked to send 20 MB/s (or more depending on how its transmitted) of data. Tons of people already have lag issues with their HDTVs. Adding extra process in the signal chain like this will only exasserbate the problem.
Although, let me add something to my original statement. I'm not saying the MPAA or whoever is right for doing this. I'm simply saying its small potatoes because its a meaningless technology. You could already "wirelessly" transmit SD to your TV with an RF transmitter, yet very few people chose to. I see this ranking about the same. - PhantomZmoove, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I thought I was the only Samsung nut out there. I even picked up their refrigerator. Its got that shiny piano black finish that the HDTV (that I also got) has. They just seem like they are doing an awful lot right lately.
(Samsung)
old CRT monitor
plasma TV
refrigerator - AnubisAscended, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Looks like the MAFIAA is at it again. When will they ever learn?
- Ub3rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Before you digg me down, read this carefully and think about it.
Why do you want wireless HD?
All the products I've seen thus far are point to point, you won't be sending a signal to more than one TV at a time. They all run on the wireless A or G band and can cause interfence to your wireless network. Likewise, any interference in those bands can screw with your TV signals. Even if everything is great, you still have a power cord to deal with. You'll need an RF remote if the box isn't in line of site of your seated position. This transmitting box will also need several IR emitters to control any gear hooked to it unless, once again, you're in line of site. It will be a pain for a lot of people in order to get all that to work correctly. If you do happen to have line of site to the gear, why do you need the transmission to be cordless? Also consider ... there will be latency with the transmission and that will probably nix all ability of people to use it in conjunction with game systems.
There are a handful of situations where this may help such as front projection systems and the few people who store all their AV equipment in other rooms. For the vast majority of people, this is just a wiz-bang thing that will actually create more issues than it solves. Just buy a HDMI cable and be done with it. - cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+1It's great you like Samsung guys, but I work at an electronics retailer and keep tab of which units come back the most. It's Samsung by far. The ones that come back are mostly dead on arrival, and this could be damage by couriers, but Samsung LCD TV's are coming back more often than any other brand. I guess if yours is working now you should have no trouble with it, but the customers who received 2 DOA 37" (LA37R71BDX) LCD TVs in a row weren't that happy.
Out of the two Korean companies, I root for LG. - EelfinnTy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Well Tesla tried wireless power but apparently didn't get far.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla#Colorado_Springs - Ub3rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For what exactly would they sue them?
- ashwin18, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Based on my experience, I can personally assure anyone about the reliability of a Samsung Product. They have a product in virtually every category that I can imagine. Hard drives, Disc Drives, Keyboards, Mice, Computer Monitors, Television sets, DVD Players, XVID Players, Refrigerators, Washing Machines to name a few. And as dumb as it may sound, ALL their products rock! Of-course, a Seagate Hard drive would perform better than a Samsung one, but the price-performance ratio of Samsung is simply unbeatable. Coupled with the terribly high number of Service Centers that they have for their products, well you get the point...
Coming back on topic, Samsung should simply ignore 'Hollywood's' anti-piracy claim. If they do sue Samsung, they will have to give a really good and formal reason for it. And 'Samsung's Wireless HD TV can cause an increase in piracy' is not formal IMO - spartan777, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2this is another excellent example of hollywood stifling innovation. companies like samsung et al. need to band together and stop these shenanigans.
- rh387, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i say just release it anyway and tell the movie industry off
- techiemike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's mostly just for hanging on the wall so you don't have to run all the wires up your wall.. it makes it look cleaner, that's all.
- techiemike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sharp Electronics already had wireless a long time ago.
- ashwin18, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't get it. Just who exactly is this 'Hollywood'?
I'm serious BTW... - Mothrog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Until of course the TV manufacturers get hit by the DMCA. Better idea: tell Hollywood to take a hike and get rid of the bought and sold politicians that allow them to wield such power.
- actorboy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1"This is an example of where copyright concerns are being used to prevent innovation"
Really? Because it could be argued that innovations like these are being developed out of a demand for higher resolution copyrighted content --- like all of the movies people want to watch. - THEsp105, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0@eelfinnty
I have a calculator thats been runing off of wireless power for years.
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