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- maehem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"the largest number since 2002"
Umm.... That's when everyone was getting laid off by the boat load. Tell me when the numbers are as large as 1999, then I'll listen. - dickeytk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"The national tech industry's 2.5 percent employment growth, however, lags behind the 3.5 percent job growth of the private sector as a whole."
so is this really news? that line in the article pretty much says the growth is meaningless - kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Pretty much. When you factor in how many hundreds of thousands of jobs have been lost or shipped overseas in the last six years... this is a tiny fraction of a rebound. "Growth" is certainly an imaginative way of looking at it...
- LGgeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2First I always want to know how did they get those numbers, the unemployment numbers are always bogus. If someone maxs their unemployment they are no longer counted in unemployment numbers but they are still unemployed.
As far as the "Numerous tech companies are having a difficult time finding qualified workers, both because fewer U.S. kids are coming out of universities with science and engineering backgrounds...", I'm amazed every time I read this stuff about tech industry wonders why the younger generation isn't going into tech. It's because they are smart and have seen the jobs go offshore and know they will be unemployed at 35. The US will no longer lead the tech industry and it's all of it;s own hand. I'm 2nd gen geek , my son would have been 3rd. Yes I encouraged him to go into something else. My bet is the eastern block will own the industry in about 10 years. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Uhhh... because "high technology" is fast becoming "everyday technology." As long as you keep defining high-tech in such ambiguous and generalized terms, its job growth will "increase" forever.
- Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Good news for Bush? HURRY! PLAY IT DOWN!
Bad news for Bush? HURRY! PLAY IT UP! - CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm sure. There are probably hundreds of thousands of people coming up with meaningless names for websites right now all hoping to cash in with Yahoo. Maybe we could get a few AJAX tutorials up so that even more people can join Web 2.0.
- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I went looking for a better job recently and was fighting people off. I've got an offer in to me now that I think I'm going to take but I've turned down several already just because I was being picky and wanted the perfect job. These are jobs that 4 years ago I would have killed for and today I'm turning down because they're not as good as the others I'm getting.
The job market is great now for people with real skills. Networking, security, DBAs, etc... But for others, NT admins, mid-level programmers, etc... not so much. The job market is full of people like that. So it all depends on what your skill-set is. The jobs are out there if you know what you're doing though. - nocode, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3They're actually working on bringing those jobs back to the States. In NY, you can apply for a voucher (it's a pain in the ass process) for $2500 that you can use for training (training for anything really). You have to qualify and show that the money will be used for a job that's high in demand. The Bush Administration started this so I guess they did something right after all.
- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A $2500 voucher will just about get you your CCNA. That's almost as good as a job. Maybe you'd like someone from the government to hold your hand and give you a job, kremvax. That'd be a lot easier than actually doing the work yourself.
- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Five minutes of research later...
"If someone maxs their unemployment they are no longer counted in unemployment numbers but they are still unemployed."
Bzzzt.
"Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment the Government uses the number of persons filing claims for unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under State or Federal Government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed."
http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
You should really know what you're talking about before talking about it. That site explains, quite clearly, exactly how the unemployment numbers are calculated and it is nothing like you think. - Irimi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thank you John Kerry... ROFL... I mean George W. Bush. Peace.
- Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Unfortunately, training is a huge expense for companies to undertake. Couple that with the job-hopping you always hear about (I've done this as well to a degree) and that equals "get your own experience...we are going to catch a hopper".
This saves them cash but leaves folks like you out in the cold. - bansico, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Honestly I feel encouraged to be a job hopper. I have to settle for lesser jobs that will hire me because my CSCI program taught me pure theory. Theory is great, but where do I put that on my resume? It seems I have to hop from job to job to pick up this ridiculously specific set of skills that every employer seems to require before I can get a good, well paying job. Is this just my inexperience talking or do you actually reach a point in your career where you easily have every the necessary skills? Did my CSCI program just suck?
- jrvp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Why do so many think they deserve a free ride? You go to school and gain some skills and voila, you're immune to layoffs? Only lazy people support unions which protect you from layoffs. Keep learning, keep gaining skills. Buy some Microsoft learning books and start taking exams. Do the grunt work and learn your skills over time. Then, after a while, you'll be worthy of a job. Until then, you're a useless whiner.
The employment numbers in the 90s and the growth were mostly fake. What I mean is that new companies were starting up on an idea, getting loads of investment cash, and going absolutely nowhere. There was little in return for investors and the economy of which some of you try and claim was so good was like a Hollywood set; it looked good from the outside, but open a door or dig only a little deeper and you'd see that it was all smoke and mirrors. - thomn8r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I wonder how many of these new jobs are actually overseas. A certain tech company I know of pulled that sleight-of-hand a while back; they hired 1.5 people in India every 1 person they laid off in the US, and claimed a net increase in hiring.
- bansico, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Why is it that articles always say that companies are having a hard time finding employees, citing dropping graduation rate as a problem? I'm a recent grad and when I do a job search all I find are listings that require 3-5 years of experience with a long list of specific skills. From my perspective it seems that they just don't want to train anyone and their expectations are too high. -B
- zgregoryg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hehe.. I don't think we'll see tech employment numbers as large as back in '99, however my phone is ringing off the hook with job solicitations so tech is definitely robust for those with broad skills and experience. For those who are still in a niche - well, it may be another story. Acquire additional skills and move forward.
I went from being a graphic designer and HTML hack starting in '96 to highly skilled security professional and programmer. If I can do it so can you! - kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1A $2500 check !=a job, and neither is the 2 credit hours of training you could feasably recieve with such a token. Especially considering the cuts the administration has made in the last six years to education and even the US student loan program.
As long as they keep cutting billion dollar tax breaks to US firms that outsource their workforce overseas, those jobs won't be coming home, no matter how much training you have. - casemac, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I wonder if this has to do with web 2.0 and the increase in people that are needed who can work with XML and other aspects of web 2.0
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