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- goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14 She, like all white-collar-business-criminals, is a scoundrel. That doesn't mean it's her fault, but she DID know it was wrong, and she did it anyhow...
- superset, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7it's so incredibly amazing that she still has her job.
- uptown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6What's also upsetting about this whole thing is that it's not receiving wider coverage from the media. What's at stake here is a company's right to use information they have about you against you at their discression. The media covered "pretexting" when it was used against General Wesley Clark during his presidential campaign .... and now seems to have forgotten about it. This isn't just about HP digging up info on their directors, or some reporters ... it's about a company justifying the invasion of privacy of whomever they see fit in order to maintain corporate privacy. The irony of that is rich. If these investigators had found that the information had flowed through numerous channels of private citizens, I don't doubt that the privacy of those individuals would have been violated as well.
Furthermore, consider that their board of directors may serve on other companies boards, or hold executive positions at other companies in the industry ... what right does HP, or investigators hired by HP, have to the communications records of these individuals. What right did HP, or their investigators, have to the information of who these people spoke to?
It's completely disgusting. Not that I ever bought HP crap to begin with, but I absolutely never ever will again, as long as Patricia Dunn is part of that company. The other directors that stayed silent while Perkins rose up to challenger her should be ashamed. - rprouse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6ROTFL!!!
I clicked on the link and sat through an Ad on the NY Times website before going to the article. It was perfect, the ad was for HP.
"Hmmm, good ad, maybe I should buy, oh wait!" - uptown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5She authorized illegal actions, she deserves to pay the price for it. A company can't just make up their own laws to suit their needs. There's usually a shorter, easier, illegal way to get something accomplished ... that doesn't mean that's the route you should take.
The irony of the whole HP thing is that that they have a server line named the "Integrity" line. - honkyman5000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5What is most ironic about this whole thing is Perkins' lawyer Viet Dinh, who explained to him how illegal this was, is the author of the Patriot Act.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Seems like a common thread that weaves its way through all white collar crime doesn't it?
The fat cats at the top know full well whats going on and often encourage it, but they manage to wriggle out of it most of the time due to being able to afford better lawyers or having their pet congress critter pull a heap of strings for them. - AndrewMayne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"The fat cats at the top know full well whats going on and often encourage it, but they manage to wriggle out of it most of the time due to being able to afford better lawyers or having their pet congress critter pull a heap of strings for them."
Checked up on the head of WorldCom? 25 years in federal prison Enron? Several executives are facing federal time. Tyco? Kozlowski got a minimum of 8 years. Even Martha Stewart did time.
Now is not a good time to be caught violating the law in corporate America. - helpimstuck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Interesting how women's looks are, without fail, commented on anytime they are in a powerful position. I knew I'd see the word "bitch" at least once in these comments.
- databasecowboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3no way... Carly screwed more tech than a booth babe on ruffies and everclear -- Lucent, Bell Labs, Compaq, DEC and HP (did I forget anyone else involved in her train wreck?).. it's gonna be pretty hard to top that.
- tech42er, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I won't purchse anyhting HP till Dunn gets what's coming to her: she steps down or she's prosecuted, or whatever. It's bad enough spying on your colleagues, but media reporters? I'm no fan of the mainsteam media but that's pathetic. HP, you just lost a customer!
- wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree that HP computers are pretty sketchy, but they still make good laser printers (my HP LJ1000 is 3 years old and still going strong). And the HP-32SII is the best scientific calculator ever invented.
- wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2OK, lets look at this. For important reasons, all responsibility has to be associated with accountability. The Chair of the board has great power (not to mention a pretty good paycheck).
Apparently, Ms. Dunn is of the opinion that although she made the decisions to investigate these "leaks" (which, btw, where very general and broad, nothing really to write home about) and she made the decision to hire this (apparently shady) outside firm, she should not be held accountable for the results of that decision. If she gets away with this, there is nothing right with corporate goverance. Boards make huge money, but routinely take no accountbility for the results of crappy decisions they made. - poopfactory, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Digg him down, but every male is conditioned to evaluate a woman's looks when he sees her... it's just natural.
- dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wow, never thought it would happen but this bitch is worse than Carly.
- richardhenry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Scapegoat? Why not... SCAPEDOG!
- dangmoss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1HP employees have mandatory 'standards of business conduct training' I think the board needs to take the training.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Read how this privacy breach is being compared to a Danielle Steel novel.
http://www.iwantmyess.com/?p=95 - cbegin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3She looks like one of those hard-assed biatches from hell. I'd fire her just for the plastic cheekbones in her face.
But yeah, white-collar criminals are the worst. Burn lady...
;-) - workharderscum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"several executives are facing federal time."
Yeah, but probably in a white-collar resort prison, not a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison - airniqueel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0How can a company justify "spying" on their own employees' private lives? I think it is apporpriate to terminate employment of an employee if he/she uses company resources to "leak" information to the media (e.g. using company phones/email/fax, etc). Howeer, if the employee "leaks" information to the press using his own resources, on his own property, and on his own time, his employer has no right to invade his/her privacy. My 2 cents.
- LeeVal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1HP is doing so much better now after she quit
- pauleric, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1A scoundrel? No, merely "a remarkable saleswoman". Oh wait...
- fredgarvin1138, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Wow, I'm glad these petty 12-year-olds are paid so much. They really earn it
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