458 Comments
- maninblac1, on 01/14/2008, -36/+310It's an HD DVD liquidation sale, all inventory must go!!!!
- brjahu, on 01/14/2008, -11/+135If there is a fight left worth fighting, they might as well pull out all the stops... what do they have to lose?
- neATL, on 01/14/2008, -36/+134I still find the format war funny. Regular DVD is STILL the top selling format but the average consumer is suppose to care?????...sure OK. This isn't like VHS vs Betamax. Those formats fought to be on your parents old tube TV. The same TV your parents had in their home for years prior. A very large percentage of this planet DO NOT OWN, CAN NOT AFFORD and WILL NOT BUY a HDTV set. BluRay and HD DVD looks great but not on a regular tube or projection sets. The majority of this planet still uses those. The war should be who will be the 1st to drop their 1080p sets below $500.
- bossm4n, on 01/14/2008, -13/+88If HD DVD wants to make up some ground, try putting out some affordable HD DVD drives for people to install in their computers. Get those suckers under $200 with somewhat affordable media and people will start considering them as a storage option.
- LogicBomB, on 01/14/2008, -20/+95This is like buying discounted VHS - it just doesn't make sense at any price.
- chriskzoo, on 01/14/2008, -18/+69LOL - liquidation of inventory before the masses catch on is not the same as aggressive price cuts to gain market share for a long term plan.
- seandaly, on 01/14/2008, -25/+75Too little too late... Sony's bet w/ the PS3 paid off, as risky as it was. Once HD-DVD is dead, they'll purposely keep the PS3 as the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market and sales will undoubtably grow... 12 -18 months behind schedule, but their evil plan is working nonetheless.
I for one prefer Blu-Ray anyway. - trump48257, on 01/14/2008, -24/+70By "firing back" I think you mean "Making a last futile act of desperation." I'm just glad this crap is going to be over.
- catalysis, on 01/14/2008, -4/+48Pretty soon you will not be able to buy a regular non-HD TV at the store. Technology progresses quickly.
- NateTheApe21, on 01/14/2008, -9/+53Crazy Toshiba's HD-DVD sale
EVERYTHING MUST GO!! - sremick, on 01/14/2008, -7/+49"people will go for the $120 HD DVD players"
And watch what with it, exactly?
Doesn't matter if HD-DVD players cost $29.95 if all the high-def discs on the shelves are Blu-Ray.
For the record: I despise Blu-Ray and was rooting for HD-DVD. - betrayed, on 01/14/2008, -6/+47High Definition DVD Drive Sale!
High Definition DVD Drive Sale!
High Definition DVD Drive Sale!
Hi, I'm Al Harington, President and CEO of Al Harington's High Definition DVD Drive Sale Imporium and Warehouse!
Thanks to adoption error, I am now currently overSTOCKED on High Definition DVD Drives!
And I am passing the savings onto YOU~ - sancho, on 01/14/2008, -12/+48Seems more likely that they're trying desperately to get customers to buy their remaining stock of players and discs before announcing that it's finally dead.
I bought an HD-DVD player to throw my support into their camp, mostly because the DRM is less heinous, and Blu-ray's standard isn't stable. I'm pretty disappointed, overall. - AncientWeird, on 01/14/2008, -14/+4809-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0!
- kingmanic, on 01/14/2008, -8/+40HDTV sales accounts for the largest slice of new TV sales in $$ and units. Your argument is tired and fast loosing credibility. People are buying into HDTV.
- ThatsUnpossible, on 01/14/2008, -4/+35I heard the same thing about DVD when it first came out. VHS looks fine. I'm not going to get a bigger TV to take advantage of DVD. Blah blah blah.
There are always early adopters, always format wars, and eventually everyone ends up using the "new stuff."
If you really don't care about it, why are you posting here? - inactive, on 01/14/2008, -13/+43HD DVD killed itself at CES.
http://www.i4u.com/article13927.html - mobilehavoc, on 01/14/2008, -4/+32Hmmm...what happens when the other studios jump ship? HD-A30 for $20 with 20 HD-DVDs??
- JigoroKano, on 01/14/2008, -6/+32More money.
- ThePerkins, on 01/14/2008, -28/+53Using the "DVD" name harkened back to the stone ages anyway. Blu-ray on the other hand? I hear blue is the color of 2008.
- Aleman360, on 01/14/2008, -11/+33Transformers, Bourne, Batman, etc. will come out on Blu-ray eventually so I would avoid these deals.
- vidalsasoon, on 01/14/2008, -14/+35have fun watching no movies on your superior hardware.
- triplehelix, on 01/14/2008, -1/+22your thinking of the mandate to go digital in 2009. it doesn't mean HD though, but by then HD sets will have dropped much more in price, and i think we will see another spike of HD sets sold.
- inactive, on 01/14/2008, -9/+29Yeah because we all know how CRITICAL being online is to watching a movie. Give me a ***** break. 2.0 is ***** and nobody cares about online connectivity with films. Just like all those DVDs that shipped with "magical features for your PC" that nobody actually put in a PC, other than to dvdshrink it.
- smujeremy, on 01/14/2008, -3/+20Or you can buy a PS3 now for $399 and have 2.0 compatibility already.
- groberts1980, on 01/14/2008, -1/+17The Best Buy where I'm from don't even carry tube sets anymore. Their TV section is an entire wall of flat panel LCD's, DLP's, and Plasmas. Welcome to the future.
- HonoredMule, on 01/14/2008, -6/+22*sigh* And we were so close.
- triplehelix, on 01/14/2008, -9/+25wow, you really have a lot emotionally invested in hd-dvd huh?
first off, the overwhelming amount of blu-ray players are either the ps3, or fully capable of taking a firmware upd
ate to bring them up to speed.
secondly, hd-dvd has DRM too, so if blu-ray has an extra layer it doesn't really matter. DRM is DRM, its not like hd-dvd has none. - Lynxpro, on 01/14/2008, -0/+15All televisions sold in America since after last summer [2007] have been required to have the DTV tuner built-in. What 2009 brings is all broadcasts being in digital.
- triplehelix, on 01/14/2008, -0/+14early blu-ray used extremely high bitrate mpeg2, but the majority of releases use vc1 or H.264 now.
you are kind of right though, in that most streamed HD is maxed out at 720p and undergoes more compression then blu ray or hd dvd.
EDIT: this was supposed to be in reply to ghandicap. - mtekk, on 01/14/2008, -3/+16the word your were looking for is Digital, Digital != HDTV.
- inactive, on 01/14/2008, -1/+13Busting a nut on the internal electronics. Or maybe he's buying the el cheapo brands that are designed by the same champions of engineering that made the Xbox 360 such a reliable piece of hardare.
- groberts1980, on 01/14/2008, -0/+12Exactly. I don't know why they labeled this article as "HD-DVD fires back..." They're trying to dump all their existing hardware before they have to scrap it all.
- trebuchet03, on 01/14/2008, -11/+23It seems more like HD DVD's equivalent "Death Rolls" to me... Instinctively, we want to stay alive - which very much applies to products that have been heavily invested in.
But all they have to lose is money - and potentially some pissed off customers that got the "wrong" format... - trump48257, on 01/14/2008, -4/+16Yea. All 20 of the movies that are going to be released by the few studios left over the next month or two before they jump ship too. They could sell it as a box set--$400 for the entire HD-DVD collection--every HD-DVD movie ever made and a player---just to get the stuff out of their warehouses :)
- iPirate, on 01/14/2008, -3/+15!= means does not equal.
- daivos, on 01/14/2008, -1/+13Don't buy from Al Harington. This guys is a fraud. He threw in a second HD-DVD for free, but charged me TWICE the shipping and handling. Now I have two POS HD-DVD drives that I overpaid for. He even stuck 'As good as Blu-Ray stickers on them'. What a douche.
- inactive, on 01/14/2008, -3/+15You're missing the point. While there may be hundreds available, there won't be hundreds more. Might as well buy a damn Laserdisc player using that type of logic.
- devophl, on 01/14/2008, -10/+21This may be true but its not good for hi-def. Blu-ray profile 2.0 which is needed to get to the level of functionality that HD-DVD already provides won't be available until the end of this year. And players supporting 2.0 won't be available until early 2009 and will be expensive ($800+). The 1080p requirement in Blu-ray tacks about another $100 to the price but since most hi-def TVs in homes don't support 1080p, this is overkill.
So as HD-DVD is now pretty much done as a format, we're going to be stuck in this hi-def no-mans-land for about a year, if not longer, given how expensive Blu-ray players are. My HD-DVD player has now become an obsolete system and I tend to doubt we'll be seeing new HD-DVD releases after mid-summer, if not sooner. But Blu-ray is still a year or so away and I'm waiting at least 18 months before diving into Blu-ray.
This delay could be the death of these formats as hi-speed broadband common in other parts of the world makes this a moot point as users just download hi-def movies. In the US where broadband is still a luxury and download speeds are still 5-8 years away from being convenient for hi-def downloads, this is more of an issue. But can the US market for hi-def DVD formats keep the market alive for either format?? That might be the more important issue. - Philbert, on 01/14/2008, -1/+12Laser disc players go for $15 on eBay!
- Rothgarr, on 01/14/2008, -2/+13As Doogie Howser said whilst standing in front of a giant vagina in Starship Troopers... "It's afraid."
- XStatic, on 01/14/2008, -2/+13Sony killed Minidisk by not implementing a cheap PC drive and making the audio and data disks incompatible. At the time minidisk could have been a great replacement for the floppy and given Sony a product before MP3 that would have allowed easy creation, recording, and purchasing of portable digital music.
Perhaps Sony learned from that mistake, they generally don't though...
I still believe HD-DVD has a chance, and agree a lot of it has to do with what you can do on a PC.
We need HD-DVD drives but we could really use better 3xDVD support!
How about simply providing a free 3xDVD application and free content to download. Even if it is some nature scenes, movie trailers, etc. Anything to test, and show off the HD player! - maninblac1, on 01/14/2008, -13/+23Then you would be the kind of idiot who would go for HD DVD.
- Phocion55, on 01/14/2008, -8/+18Damn.....could you even imagine if Blu-Ray DIDN'T win? Sony would be screwed beyond belief.
- harrypl0tter, on 01/14/2008, -9/+19How the ***** are they coming back with only 27% of the market exclusive to them...give up toshiba....you lost...
- mywhitenoise, on 01/14/2008, -2/+12On Demand? Haha, that isn't real HD. Feeds through Comcast look like my dogs *****. Like an upscaled DVD movie. I'm not paying $5 for a 2 day rental, and sub-par quality.
- triplehelix, on 01/14/2008, -2/+12sony has no control over how cheap the ps3 is in comparison to stand alone players. that is one huge benefit of blu-ray as it stands now, that there are multiple hardware manufactures, who will be competing with each other for sales, while hd-dvd only has toshiba. thats why the only cheap hd-dvd players where crippled ones that didn't play full resolution.
- MalDON, on 01/14/2008, -3/+12If you really need to backup 20+ gigs, buy an external HDD. It's cheaper and faster.
- triplehelix, on 01/14/2008, -9/+18you knock blu-ray for being an unfinished standard, which can easily be fixed by a firmware update for 99% of the players on the market, but tout crippled resolution hd-dvd players as the better option?
- selfdisplaced, on 01/14/2008, -4/+13It's a failed product. So I guess they are trying to dump their stock on the unsuspecting public before too many people get wind that the "Future is Blu".
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