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- wonderchemist, on 02/15/2008, -8/+155What am I going to do with my 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 now?
- inactive, on 02/15/2008, -3/+47looks like blu-ray is going to be forgotten like the CD and 3.5" floppy disk.
- Absalon, on 02/15/2008, -2/+43Im sure that piracy will be the blame for its death.
- BinaryDelt, on 02/15/2008, -15/+52Give it up Toshiba. At this point you're just hurting the consumer.
Updated Engadget HD-DVD vs. Blu-ray State of the Division:
http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-d ... - entrophize, on 02/15/2008, -4/+38Isn't Clinton on deathwatch as well?
- scaaven2, on 02/15/2008, -0/+31Not that I don't agree, doesn't having Tivo hurt the credibility of your little list?
- VinnieDaMac, on 02/15/2008, -8/+37I think the outcome would have been very different if the Xbox 360 had a built in HD DVD player. Asking people to buy a $100+ dollar addon to play movies is unreasonable.
- hipnerd, on 02/15/2008, -9/+38Oh cut Toshiba some slack. Without their massive price cuts, stand-alone Blu-ray players would still cost $800 each. Competition is a beautiful thing.
Here's the final scorecard on Blu-ray v. HD-DVD: http://www.badmouth.net/hd-dvd-vs-blu-ray-the-fina ...
I'm a little bummed that Blu-ray ended up winning. - Heaiser, on 02/15/2008, -14/+41HD DVD has been on my personal deathwatch for months now.
- inactive, on 02/15/2008, -8/+34Somebody has to inform Hitler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywWfmRdOmJ0 - santaliqueur, on 02/15/2008, -3/+29Or how about: don't think about everything in terms of politics.
- mrfreeziexp, on 02/15/2008, -10/+31The bell tolls for thee, HD DVD.
- matt646, on 02/15/2008, -1/+19HD-DVD may be dead but that will never stop a pirate from plundering booty.
- kingmanic, on 02/15/2008, -3/+16I think it's just about 50:50. Half of sony associated formats are failures to mediocre success and the other half are smashing success.
Win: 3'5", CD, BetaCam, now BD
mediocre: Mini-disc, Memory Stick
Loss: BetaMax, UMD, super Audio CD - 1town, on 02/16/2008, -2/+15Yeah, great, engadget. You are basically showing up to the funeral and declaring the buried dead. WOW, you are real prophets.
- pagemap, on 02/15/2008, -11/+22The blogger is right, I am one of those consumers who "waited it out". I just bought a PS3 last week after it became clear to me that Blu-Ray is the future. I had an HDTV without an HD player because I didn't want to buy into a dying format. Now, with Wal-Mart dropping HD-DVD it won't be much longer before Paramount and Universal switch to Blu-Ray as well.
Early in the "war", a couple years ago, it appeared that HD-DVD might win, because it was cheaper. However, I'm personally glad that Blu-Ray won this thing because it is technically superior to HD-DVD, and has far larger storage capacity. - kingmanic, on 02/15/2008, -1/+12If you've watched TV in the last 20 years you've seen BetaCam, it's the default Camera for TV broadcasts.
- stealth210, on 02/16/2008, -2/+13Digg seems bipolar. One day everyone here hates Sony, the next it's reversed (Blu-ray). Maybe there's a lot of turnover here or this is just Herd Mentality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_mentality
- Opteron, on 02/15/2008, -2/+12How is tacking on 100+$ to the consoles initial price reasonable? I didn't buy my 360 to play movies, so I'm glad they didn't force the price on the consumer.
- carl0ski, on 02/15/2008, -3/+13what about the Compact Disc
Sony chaired on that also i believe that will fail also - JAG731, on 02/15/2008, -1/+10HD DVD or Blu-Ray? No matter. We'll wait a few years or so and something else will come along and we're back to square one.
- xNaquada, on 02/16/2008, -3/+11go outside,
- vat0r, on 02/15/2008, -2/+10They're still insanely overpriced either way in my opinion. I'd love to see a blu-ray drive for like $100, till then I'll just wait it out.
- LightSpeed4, on 02/16/2008, -1/+9Blu-ray has twice the DRM as HD DVD. This is a fact.
Also Blu-ray has won but HD DVD recently approved 51Gb disks, that would have worked on existing players.
Both formats used the same codecs, the same quality on each player.
Consumers did lose and studios chose for us, period. If you state otherwise you are very, very ignorant and/or a fanboi. - HouseofEl, on 02/15/2008, -1/+8I wouldn't really care which one made it, if it wasn't for the fact that the consumers never made the choice. This win was bought and paid for. I'm sure this isn't the first time, but at least there was some resemblance of consumer control. This was just "hey...this is what you get because they paid us off." It also doesn't help that both formats will be dead and gone in a few years.
- merwin, on 02/15/2008, -0/+6As Cheney would say, Tivo is in its last throes.
- chinolofus, on 02/16/2008, -0/+6please stop with the lol catz talk...it was never funny.
- staticneuron, on 02/15/2008, -3/+9UMD's never lost. It cannot fail as a format. There were no recorders or home players or anything else associated with it. PSP's still play UMD's so to call it a failure is idiotic. UMD's are doing what they were created to do.
- id000001, on 02/15/2008, -1/+7Don't forget Hi-8 and DAT, one is a consumer standard for a while, and the other was a studio standard.
- shadowofapuddle, on 02/15/2008, -2/+8That isn't a fair statement, they both have DRM, and studio support is due to the superiority of the media.
How are you suggesting that Blu-ray is not good for the consumer? Blu-ray has a 50 GB recordable disc (BD-R / BD-RW) that you can get for your computer today and use instead of DVD-R. Now that BD has won the war, these drives will get cheaper and it's better for everyone. - philhatesyou, on 02/16/2008, -1/+7And Blu Ray was working on 100 gig discs that would work on existing players. If you want to keep playing the "lets add more layers" game, Blu Ray will STILL win, but the margin will just get larger. "Twice the DRM" is meaningless. DRM is DRM. Toshiba doesn't love you.
- tetfsu, on 02/16/2008, -2/+7I just hope Microsoft puts out a Blue-ray player for the Xbox 360 now
- Nth3nSum, on 02/16/2008, -0/+5Bluray is hacked too.
AnyDVD can rip both. - DephexTwin, on 02/16/2008, -0/+5Cue: Lars calls the RIAA and has them sue your ass for public performance of a copyrighted work.
- vat0r, on 02/15/2008, -1/+6Chelsea?
- JigoroKano, on 02/15/2008, -0/+5DAT quickly forgotten? Are you kidding? DAT did great in the pro market and I don't mean Beta great, I actually mean great great.
And it was the RIAA that killed DAT. They were horribly afraid of consumers getting the ability to bit for bit copy. If DAT wasn't martyred, the CD might have been. - DrunkenSavior, on 02/16/2008, -1/+6Remember your mom....
- celkin, on 02/15/2008, -5/+10Go to jail.
Go directly to jail.
Do not pass Go.
Do not collect 5 free HD DVD's - ovejon, on 02/15/2008, -4/+9If you are referring the market as the consumers then I disagree. The one who choose the winning format were the studios and we had little to do with it.
- gyrfalcon, on 02/16/2008, -0/+4Their "reporting" is copy/paste or rumor.
- allahuakbar, on 02/16/2008, -0/+4I care - I want to see the dandruff on their hair :(
- Adsmi, on 02/15/2008, -19/+23I don't believe it. Sony is actually going to be on winning side in format war? I was expecting blue-ray to be quickly forgotten along with Betamax and DAT.
- PedleZelnip, on 02/15/2008, -2/+6I disagree, the reason Blu Ray will win out is because of studio support, not availability of the hardware.
What I see happening now is PS3 sales spiking a bit now that Blu-Ray is the HD format winner. - davidrools, on 02/15/2008, -0/+4well, for what HD-DVD players are going for these days, they're still a pretty good value as an upconverting DVD player, net you 5 free HD-DVD movies, and will be able to play discounted HD discs if you care to spend money on a dead format.
- staticneuron, on 02/15/2008, -3/+7and if HD-DVD would have won it wouldn't have been a monopoly? Wait.... whats that?..... you say there are more than one company behind HD-DVD? Oh, so I guess that Blu ray which was made by 8 companies wouldn't represent a monopoly either.
- fkr3, on 02/15/2008, -3/+7Calling UMD a loss is like calling classic Nintendo cartridges a loss... they were created for a specific purpose and device, they're meeting that purpose. They didn't "catch on" elsewhere because it wasn't an option to implement them elsewhere.
- staticneuron, on 02/15/2008, -1/+5Well the BDA is more than SO.... ahh just forget it.
- Nth3nSum, on 02/16/2008, -0/+4Do not get complacent, the Clinton's didn't get where they are without being good at this.
- cadmiumpaint, on 02/15/2008, -2/+6With Wallmart, Bestbuy, Blockbuster and Netflix all going Bluray I don't see how HD DVD isn't immediately dead. If you already have a player then maybe you can get some firesale cheap stuff from places clearing shelf space.
- Speed, on 02/15/2008, -0/+4To be fair, $399 for a player this early isn't TOO bad...
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