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Gun owner says Facebook gave employer access to her private profile

valleywag.com — Facebook employees can see your profile even if it is private. Now we hear that Facebook is willing to share your private profile with your boss. All he has to do is ask.

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  • rubixsphere, on 11/17/2007, -11/+85man that is ridiculous, if all of thes private companies are going to have access to our information there has to be some more uniform rules as to how they handle it
    • DeFex, on 11/17/2007, -19/+14this is the freedom that bush has been going on about. freedom for companies to do what they like to you with no worry of repercussions. and he want to bring freedom to the world!
      • pattink, on 11/17/2007, -4/+14Wow, way to relate every last problem to Bush. What happens when he is out of office and Ron Paul or whoever you are coting for is in office? Who are you going to bitch and moan about then?

        I agree that if people don't want their privacy to be invaded, don't put all of the aspects of your private life on-line, no matter how secure you think it is going to be
      • evo8ftw, on 11/17/2007, -4/+7Bah bah bah. yeah Bush has been talking about allowing corporations to have access to your social networking page.
    • takeda, on 11/17/2007, -5/+6Wait, so the picture of that employee was with a gun or with a wand?
    • Nerfdude, on 11/17/2007, -6/+5this is ridiculous. maybe if you didn't make your profile picture you doing a bong hit, and list activities as "being stoned at work", there wouldn't be a ***** problem.
      • masterofshadows, on 11/17/2007, -3/+6if you even read the article you would know that he had pictures of him with guns, thats all. The employer was concerned with that! It is perfectly legal to own guns, why should he be punished because of this?
        • TheMidnight, on 11/18/2007, -7/+2Probably because every most people who pose with guns on the Internet shoot up schools about a month later. Not all, but most, and most is enough to cause concern.
    • nphase, on 11/17/2007, -4/+5Yet somehow I'm neither surprised nor outraged. Information that you put into the public domain is well, just that: public.
    • FadieZ, on 11/17/2007, -0/+1Just don't post anything that may tarnish your reputation. I have tons of pictures in my folder that I'd LOVE to share with my friends, but don't for this very reason. Same rule should apply to people posting videos of themselves on YouTube with a dry ice bomb in their hand.

      EDIT: Whoops, just got to reading bangor's comment.
    • gryphonauto, on 11/18/2007, -0/+3I believe this is against their privacy policy & it's entirely possibly that the employer lied pretending to be law enforcement, to get that information. Regardless the employer can most certainly be sued, and facebook might possibly face legal charges for violating their own privacy policy.

      Facebook built itself on protecting people's privacy, but many moves over the last year have transformed it into a stalker's paradise. I could personally care less about facebook, but it's a matter of integrity.
    • Canute, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1Actually, at least here in Norway we have laws about what information companies are allowed to keep, and how they are used. I remember one case in particular, where this guy was caught in this road side photo box (captures a picture of you and your car when you drive to fast) who had just robbed someone's house. In the picture, I've been told, you could clearly see what he had stolen, but due to our laws the picture was not allowed to be shown in a court.

      Hosting Facebook would probably be illegal in Norway due to the amount of sensitive information they have on each user.
    • antoniojvr, on 11/18/2007, -1/+2It's like posting your telephone number on a billboard and then getting angry when people call you. Get a life.
  • allaboutdatiki, on 11/17/2007, -14/+262The tipping point is near. Facebook will be 2008's Myspace.
    • Alright, on 11/17/2007, -17/+4you say that like it's a good thing
    • tedhead2k, on 11/17/2007, -11/+21No, it really isn't. While Digg nerds try to promote Facebook horror stories and preach of Facebook's impending doom, the majority of Facebook users who are just casual internet users are enjoying their time on the site and networking with friends.
      • williamdyer, on 11/17/2007, -3/+24Myspace still has millions of users that don't care about suckage. How's that working out for the value of Myspace?
        • tedhead2k, on 11/17/2007, -5/+3That isn't because MySpace sucks, it's because Facebook is better and is quickly taking over. Only something bigger and better than Facebook is going to dethrone them, and with all the features of Facebook, that's going to be a tough feat.
        • bingobongony, on 11/17/2007, -9/+1Except it is NOT quickly taking over tedhead. It is funny that you and mocking Digg for poswting inaccurate crap, and then you believe what you read in Digg. The REALITY is people are not leaving MySpace to join Facebook. Yes, peopel are joing Facebook. But most people keep their MySpace profile open and active too. And for every one that does leave MySapcefor Facebook, there are people who graduate colelge and close hteir Faceobok account and go back to MYSpace.
        • meridian300, on 11/18/2007, -0/+4@bingobongony
          Hah. You're pretty clueless yourself, buddy.
        • futebollounge, on 11/18/2007, -1/+2i dont understand what makes facebook greater than myspace? i notice a lot of people feeling superior when they talk to someone who uses myspace rather than facebook (me). they can never win the arguement when i say myspace has 300 million users and facebook has what? 12?

          but i do understand that myspace is flawed :/ its just that i have about 4 years of comments and friends built into it that i love to look back to from time to time
        • DMCer, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1MySpace sucks for hundreds of reasons, you can Google all day to find out many, many more. The main reason Facebook is far superior, is that its developers/users actually know what the word "network" means, and the site is designed around that. MySpace thinks "network" means the whole world.
    • XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 11/17/2007, -16/+5You don't have any friends, do you?
    • MalDON, on 11/17/2007, -2/+7Facebook needs to stop with all the advertisement crap. The site is slowly shifting from users and app developers to paying app developers and companies.
    • Nerfdude, on 11/17/2007, -1/+5yeah, because i'd rather be using Pownce. wait, no..
    • bingobongony, on 11/17/2007, -3/+3By 2008 MySpace do you mean the most popular and still growing social network?
      Because I am sure that Facebook would LOVE to be 2008's MySpace.
    • CLShortFuse, on 11/17/2007, -1/+8I liked Facebook when it was limited to college emails only. The tweens have ruined it just like they ruined MySpace...
      no... MySpace was always bad. Stupid Tom.
      • Kier, on 11/18/2007, -0/+7No, the apps are ruining it.

        If I wanted to play Jetman, I would. Stop spamming me.
    • phaed, on 11/18/2007, -3/+2All that is left now is for a replacement that addresses all the issues plaguing Facebook to appear and rape Facebook in the ass.
    • rssolo23, on 11/18/2007, -1/+2Actually.... according to *this* week, FACEBOOK has PASSED myspace! HERES PROOF:

      http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/ ...

      be sure to add myspace.com to the chart... and compare! I'm sure someone can easily make a new digg article on this.
  • tangofish, on 11/17/2007, -4/+114Sites like these rely on customer trust, it amazes me that they so readily risk this trust, or do they just think no-one will care. They will soon realize how much their customers care when people see this could have a bearing on their livelihood.
    • colonelpanic414, on 11/17/2007, -1/+6I had the same misgivings when I joined Facebook. The key is, don't put anything on it that you wouldn't want people to see. (People that aren't your friends that is)

      I know that it sounds too much like that "If you've got nothing to hide, don't worry" *****... But when I heard that Facebook had several ties to the government, I decided it was too much of a risk. So, I just use it to talk to my friends.
      • bradleyland, on 11/17/2007, -0/+5If a site allows me to set my profile to "private", then they have created a bond of trust. Private has a pretty non-disputed meaning in most circles. Who is the relationship with, me and Facebook, or Facebook and whatever body of authority who happens to come knocking? Facebook may be complying with their own "Terms of Service", but I'm under no obligation to continue to do partake in their service.
      • appetite, on 11/17/2007, -0/+3Everyone keeps saying 'Don't put anything on the internet... blah blah blah'. That's missing the point. Even if you don't put anything on the internet that you don't want people to see, Facebook's faux privacy controls are still highly questionable. They put up privacy controls to trick people into a sense of security. Just because I don't fall for it, doesn't mean I shouldn't be pissed that they are engaging in what is arguably a shady business practice that is certain to screw other people over. I don't get tricked by email scammers, but that doesn't mean I can't say they are horrible people.
    • brad3378, on 11/17/2007, -1/+2What would happen if I posted my enemy's photos on a fake Facebook profile? Could they lose their job? More importantly, does anybody have any scandalous George Bush photos to share?
  • leontes, on 11/17/2007, -2/+27*****, really? I can't risk dual role with my clients if they can pretend to be my employer and get my personal info.
  • thelastcivilian, on 11/17/2007, -2/+60As a Facebook user, Zuck owns you. (...and Facebook is on the downswing. Newsfeeds seem to have nothing but ads these days.)
    • Mytheral, on 11/17/2007, -0/+3weird mine are still damn such and such vampire has bitten such and such vampire and kicked their ass like a rockstar.

      I wish there was an app that would take that crap out of my news feeds.
      • Nov4cane, on 11/18/2007, -0/+0You can tell the news feed what to show and what not to show. (Ads excluded of course). Almost anything on facebook can be hidden, you can hide all apps someone has and all the news feed information.

        And to the original reply, you must not have any friends cause ads are not that big of a deal.
    • PaulLewis, on 11/18/2007, -0/+0Ever since they added the 'fans' feature, it's started going downhill for me. We've become walking advertisements, and I can't do that; I am not a product.
  • reeder, on 11/17/2007, -3/+29I'm sure this system will not be abused. How the hell did they even confirm that it was her employer? Sounds like they just give it away to anyone. What about when the government comes around? It sounds like facebook can't give your information fast enough.
  • whataboutdave, on 11/17/2007, -3/+57I've noticed that I'm gradually losing my allegiance to Facebook with every new empty feature and security breach. As soon as another closed-off social network comes around that I can trust like I trusted Facebook in 2005 I think I'm off.
    • oneoverzero, on 11/17/2007, -5/+2Pownce?

      I'm not saying its as good as facebook is (or was for that matter)

      but it's closed off, and relatively trustworthy.
      • bingobongony, on 11/17/2007, -0/+1What good is a social network if no one ewlse is one it? Like Pownce?
        • aliguana, on 11/17/2007, -0/+1well... no-one I known personally is on Facebook or MySpace.* Doesn't stop me using them. Until something better comes along.

          * because they have lives, probably
          • richardiscool, on 11/18/2007, -0/+2You don't know anyone personally who's on Facebook or Myspace?

            I don't think I know ANYONE who isn't on at least one of them.
    • DeFex, on 11/17/2007, -1/+39good luck closing your account. they will just suspend it and keep your information for ever
      • TheSabre, on 11/17/2007, -0/+19That's why you don't just hastily close your account. Delete your picture albums, interests, and all the other text boxes you fill out and don't close your account at all.
        • WayOfWolf, on 11/18/2007, -0/+2Better yet, fill your profile with *****. We should start a revolution of false information.
        • Macskeeball, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1I'm sure they have plenty of backups.
        • BinaryMadman, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1If it's like MySpace, you can "delete" your images but they will remain accessible on their servers forever. Direct links to each image still work - I forget if it's the case with Facebook.
        • HueytheFreeman, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1@ BinaryMadman
          Yes, it's the case with Facebook.
    • PiGuy, on 11/17/2007, -1/+4Just so the next company you sign up with can cash in your private info in two years?
    • bingobongony, on 11/17/2007, -1/+5You could just not join a social network. And have...you know..a REAL life.
  • hiphoc, on 11/17/2007, -5/+15Google Q-Intel and check out this site to see whats really up with facebook

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5 ...
    http://albumoftheday.com/facebook/
    • zachshmack, on 11/17/2007, -1/+11ZOMG CONSPIRACY!!11
      • hiphoc, on 11/17/2007, -0/+1Conspiracy? 2 or more people organizing to commit a crime. There i no crime here. But people need to know whats going on with face book when they put their entire lives up on the site. I used to baby sit this girl and she grew up and opened a facebook account. Somehow I was able to see photos of her with a penis cake in college and her and her Friends playing with party dildos. I was very disturbed, I haven't even told my mom who is like this girls aunt. People need to wake up as to what they put on line and who runs these web sites. Once stuff goes online it stays out there forever.

        As for conspiracy if you are using the word CONSPIRACY as a negative word like JFK or 9/11 conspiracy theory. Stop double speaking and misusing words wingnunt lol.
        • daverave999, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1What's a party dildo? Is that like where it can have multiple concurrent users?
    • DirtySnachez, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1Wow, thats an amazing link.. All the girls in my office are too cool to care about CIA data mining though
    • Chris4, on 11/19/2007, -0/+0Cool link. Glad I don't have Facebook now haha.
  • Nathrat, on 11/17/2007, -19/+28This is why you don't use myspace or facebook...besides the fact that it's retarded.
    • LonesomeFighter, on 11/17/2007, -4/+1only list #2 and #3 social networking sites? So #1 is legit then?
    • supermanred, on 11/17/2007, -6/+2It's only retarded if you don't have any friends.
      • Atomic1fire, on 11/17/2007, -2/+2thats assuming everyone has access to the internet
        and chooses to use facebook or myspace
        what if your friends dont have/use the internet
        what if they are amish or live in a third world country
        or dont use facebook/myspace
        dont make such broad generalizations
      • diggscout, on 11/17/2007, -1/+3said the tool with the glittery profile
  • Remmy, on 11/17/2007, -4/+7That's quite a social faux pa.
  • faskill, on 11/17/2007, -8/+23So, is this person a hermaphrodite? In the title on the actual link it states that they were given access to "her" profile, but in the article it reads ""The Poster had pictures of himself with his firearms""... so if the writer doesn't pay attention to little details like this, what kind of validity does this claim really have?
    • Gavagai80, on 11/17/2007, -2/+13It's valleywag, a self-proclaimed gossip rag. Facts don't really matter, the point is hit a few emotional buttons.
    • Nuhaus, on 11/18/2007, -0/+6"so if the writer doesn't pay attention to little details like this, what kind of validity does this claim really have?"
      None. But that's more evident from the fact that there is no link to any supporting evidence.
  • scabbers, on 11/17/2007, -2/+11Not enough information given, please drive through.
  • Killwize, on 11/17/2007, -4/+9I never did like Facebook.
    • Atomic1fire, on 11/17/2007, -1/+1every time someone uses a social network
      one less little debbie is made
  • mrfreeziexp, on 11/17/2007, -10/+3say what you will about myspace, but I don't recall their employees treating your privacy like trash.
    • MalDON, on 11/17/2007, -2/+9You never had any privacy in the first place on MySpace.
      • bingobongony, on 11/17/2007, -1/+4sources for that? You can keep your profile private, just like with Facebook.
  • demonsnake69, on 11/17/2007, -0/+21Facebook sucks when they do things like this, but at the same time it's a reminder for me to never put up an online profile.
  • Chirp08, on 11/17/2007, -4/+8SO IT BEGINS..
  • Emused, on 11/17/2007, -16/+5Thats all we need , another pissed of gun collector.
    • skratchnerd, on 11/17/2007, -3/+2haha. you're funny.
    • Christianptriot, on 11/17/2007, -2/+8I take it you are afraid that someone who collects guns might get angry and hurt someone?? How ridiculous a statement!! What if the person collected cars...would you be afraid they would run you over??
  • skews13, on 11/17/2007, -23/+12IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW YOU HAVE GUNS.DON'T TAKE PICTURES OF YOURSELF WITH THEM
    • m0laria, on 11/17/2007, -4/+19....AND PUT THEM ON THE INTERNET.
    • supermanred, on 11/17/2007, -1/+2The caps lock button, which will allow you to type in standard English, which includes both upper and lower case letters can be found on a PC usually at the top right of the keyboard labeled "CAPS LOCK", "CPS LOCK" or something similar. Pressing this key once will usually on a PC turn off a light near a symbol usually looking like an uppercase "A". On a Mac, check your CAPS LOCK button found to the left of your keyboard. Is it key glowing green? If so, press it once and the eerie green glow will disappear.

      Hope that helps, and welcome to the Internet and the English language! Hope you have as much with both as the rest of us do.
  • defconoi, on 11/17/2007, -2/+13You show your personal crap to the world, the world will digg it up ;>
    • Macskeeball, on 11/18/2007, -1/+1I think you actually meant "dig," unless you were referring to this site.
  • kweee, on 11/17/2007, -8/+49Good thing she's a gun owner. Now she can shoot Facebook in the faaaaace. Book.
    • Atomic1fire, on 11/17/2007, -4/+3thats assuming she kills people in rage
      maybe she just collects guns after all you dont see sword collectors removing peoples fingers off for stealing a cookie
      maybe she is a deer/turkey/squiral hunter/some other gun related form of hunting animals with a permit
      • ErikHK, on 11/18/2007, -3/+0um.. wow. Really sensitive about gun control are we?
      • ShinRaTDR, on 11/18/2007, -0/+2When was the last time someone held up a bank with a sword?
        [As awesome as that would be]
  • hungarian33, on 11/17/2007, -10/+4yeah, , i heard somebody could get a persons details, includinf drivers lisence number, street addres eve mobile phone in like 20 min off sites like these.
  • uracre, on 11/17/2007, -17/+3If you look at the issue from an employer's perspective, there is nothing wrong about this. You wouldn't want employees that would damage your business' image and profile. Before social networking websites, there were other methods to dig in employee's lives or habits. In the working world it is not simple as you show up to work in the morning, get done with it at 5 pm and go to your private live. The choice is simple, find a job that will fit your lifestyle, then you wouldn't have to worry about anything. Our jobs and our work environment are important part of our lives, too.
    Facebook allowing the employer to see employees' profiles? Sounds wrong, but on the other hand everything is covered with the "privacy policy" that they have.You hate your job, you openly discuss this on your profile? Well, hello, I will try to find out if my employees like the work they do or they are just ***** during work. Don't have a facebook account, or don't mention anything that can trouble you. That's how the system works.
    • Christianptriot, on 11/17/2007, -3/+9A piece of crafted metal can not be guilty of committing a crime or injuring or killing someone. If it can, then everyone in the world MUST give up their cars immediately. Your comment is ludicrous, at best, and wholly uneducated at worst. This country was founded by men with a God-inspired vision, who all carried arms to defend their families and homes. I suppose you would prefer to still be a subject of the Queen?!
      • uracre, on 11/17/2007, -5/+1Well, as a matter of fact I am originally from a country that we were never "a subject of the Queen." So, "men with a God-inspired vision who all carried arms to defend their families and homes" don't really apply to me. Also, don't forget my friend, the same "men with a God-inspired vision who all carried arms to defend their families and homes" butchered native Americans and enslaved African Americans. Thanks to that glorious piece of crafted metal you talk about. Talking about being uneducated? Yes, you are...
        • miketherazor, on 11/17/2007, -2/+4If you hate our history so freaking much then I suggest you retreat to the crappy place you came from.
          • uracre, on 11/17/2007, -4/+1How old are you? 15? You should get your parents' permission before trying to insult people.
        • Christianptriot, on 11/17/2007, -0/+7The Dutch, actually, enslaved Africans and brought them to the West Indies and traded them for sugar, which they traded in the Americas for rum and returned to Europe, where they sold the rum and took the money to Africa to buy more slaves.
          • uracre, on 11/17/2007, -6/+0Alright. That's probably what they teach you at your local church.
    • miketherazor, on 11/17/2007, -0/+5What difference does it make if your employee hates their job as long as they do it and don't cause a problem. It is assholes like you that make corporate America hell for the average dope that has to work in it. Not only are we supposed to take all your crap, day in and day out but we have to like it? Screw you.
      • uracre, on 11/17/2007, -5/+1America is the country that pushes globalism and capitalist game to every market out in the world. And I am sorry my friend if you cannot deal with the truth, and play this game while I am an outsider in your country and playing the game better than you. Obviously you don't like the corporate America hell, why don't you do something to change it? I figured, you wouldn't be able to do anything about it, cannot do anything for your own life, but go online and protest "screw you." Well done mate, kudos to you. lol
        • miketherazor, on 11/17/2007, -1/+4What the hell are you even talking about. I probably make more than two of you put together but that doesn't mean I like the political ***** that goes on in corporations. I've worked my way up the ladder and I manage two teams of people but there are those that are always trying to get dirt on people or trying to make other departments look bad anyway they can. I try and shield my employees from crap like that I don't like hearing about jerk-offs like you trying to find dirt on someone outside of work just because they feel superior. As far as changing something, the first thing I would do is deport assholes like you that feel like America owes you a spot so you can make a good living while at the same time you run America down every chance you get and since I believe in free speech, I'll call assholes like you on it every time I see it happen so ***** off....MATE
          • uracre, on 11/17/2007, -2/+1First of all, you don't even understand what I was talking about in my original post, you took the subject to a very different direction. Second, I never said "I hate America" or "America's history." Obviously, since I am here, I respect and like millions of things about this country and its people. However, I am really sure, you wouldn't understand that because you think that every foreigner in this country cross the border illegally, trying to steal work from Americans. That's where you stand with the stuff that you are writing. I will give you an example, one of my favorite characters from your history is Howard Hughes (I am giving this example since there was a recent movie about his life, so it will make it easy for you to understand). His vision, what he did, his inspirations sums what I think about the USA, and along the concept, that's how I feel about this country. I don't have to agree with everything the USA government does, or every American says, but this doesn't mean that I hate this country. Please deport me, and write your reasoning with the same style you are using here. I am sure they will kick me out right away if they don't strip your citizenship from you lol
    • jimmiss, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1Why would you care if your employees like their jobs? Would you rather a guy who was great at a his job but hated it working for you, or a happy job loving MORON working under you?
  • lead2thehead, on 11/17/2007, -3/+62Step 1) Pretend to be somebody's employer.
    Step 2) Contact Facebook and request all of their personal information.
    Step 3) Profit.
    • dansmeek, on 11/17/2007, -3/+9you forgot the Step 2.5) ???
    • Onyxblaze, on 11/17/2007, -13/+5Step 1) Pretend to be somebody's employer and contact Facebook requesting all of their personal information.
      Step 2) ???
      Step 3) Profit.

      (idiot)
      • pentalive, on 11/17/2007, -0/+131) Pretend
        2) Get Info
        3) ???
        4) Profit.
    • Ademan, on 11/17/2007, -2/+4Step 2.5) Blackmail.
    • krackajap, on 11/18/2007, -1/+1sweet raptor jesus you all fail so hard.
  • OhSn4p, on 11/17/2007, -3/+13Idiots, it's much easier to poke him for him to poke you back... boom... you have access to the profile...creating a fake account with a hot girl also works ;) no need to be official... I would deff access the facebook of anyone I would hire..if I was in the position to hire... which I am deff not :(
  • Lindane, on 11/17/2007, -1/+12Now I can take my stalking to a whole new level.
  • thefreak, on 11/17/2007, -9/+12Anyone who uses Facebook or myspace needs a swift kick in the ass anyways.
    • funktimus, on 11/17/2007, -1/+11Dugg, despite having an account on each. The shame.
  • tucktan, on 11/17/2007, -3/+29Dont like the privacy policy?
    Dont join facebook. Simple as that.
    • OswaldKenobi, on 11/17/2007, -1/+9The issue for me is not total privacy, but the fact that any person can access a user's personal information by request. My company should not be able to call up any web service that I use and be able to get information about my usage. What happens next, bosses can call ISP's and get surfing info?
  • mst3kcrow, on 11/17/2007, -1/+20Don't post anything online which you wouldn't want the general populous knowing/seeing.
  • MalDON, on 11/17/2007, -0/+35This is the Internet people. You only have the illusion of privacy.
    • thoughtless, on 11/18/2007, -0/+2The everyday person doesn't understand this. They see things like a little lock icon or "Hacker Safe" and they're sold. And in the real world... they see water and cologne bottles being confiscated before they board an aircraft, and they feel safe.
  • invisiblehat, on 11/17/2007, -0/+10I have recently deleted my Myspace and Facebook profiles. I don't miss them at all. Incidentally, I seem to have much more time lately to get things done and to actually relax. I wish I would've done this sooner.
    • inertic, on 11/17/2007, -0/+4I thought you can only "deactivate" your facebook account. However, I deleted everything from fb: all my pics, wall posts, info, group things, friends...everything.
  • KaptainKandy, on 11/17/2007, -1/+6So you mean that anonymity that I thought I was safe behind through the Internet was all just a facade? Who could have guessed?
  • Christianptriot, on 11/17/2007, -3/+9Anyone who uses MySpace or Facebook or any other 'social' site with any expectation of privacy is mental. If you don't want people to know you have legal firearms, then don't put pictures of you and your collection on the Internet.

    How long do you think it would be before someone hacked around long enough to find out where you live and come steal them??
    • Enjia, on 11/17/2007, -1/+6steal guns from a gun owner, that's real smart.
      • Christianptriot, on 11/19/2007, -0/+2Most people that I know are not home 24 hour a day.
  • honus, on 11/17/2007, -1/+18I hate how business now thinks it owns your free time too. What you do at work is one thing, what legally you do at home is something completely different, and your employer has no business holding that against you.
  • Kajico, on 11/17/2007, -1/+11I'm more concerned at what her employer did with the information. I'm a person who believes your private life and your business life should remain on opposite ends at all time. You don't take your problems to work and you don't bring your work problems home, and most employers appreciate that, as they don't want employees personal problems affecting their work environment.

    So in my opinion the employers should be equally as respective, and not interfere in an employees personal life. It's one thing for Facebook to give up your personal information to an employer, and it's another for your employer to actually try and dig up your personal information.

    Facebook may be saved because of it's TOS, but what right does an employer have investigating your personal tastes.

    Really wish there was more info on this story
  • pathogenX, on 11/17/2007, -8/+10Sorry, but it's called reading the Terms of Service (TOS). If you want to be on Facebook, you must play by their rules. Ignorance is no excuse to complain about it AFTER you've already agreed to the TOS
    • Christianptriot, on 11/17/2007, -4/+6This person is absolutely right. And it validates my point about staying off any sites like these.
    • theDevilsDue, on 11/18/2007, -0/+8Where in the TOS does it say that Facebook will grant your boss access to your private profile?
  • akatherder, on 11/17/2007, -10/+5Everyone just wants something to complain about. What if the guy was showing all the signs of coming the the office and shooting up the place? We would see another headline next week.

    "Employee kills 8 employees, self. Facebook refused to give vital information to employer"
    • uracre, on 11/17/2007, -9/+2Really good point.
    • aliguana, on 11/17/2007, -0/+4so, for every person I employ, I have to get in touch with Facebook and request access to their private profiles? Just in case I've hired a potential shoe-bomber? Sorry, but that's the Fed's job, not mine.
      I can see the job spec now: "Wanted: Designer. Must be proficient in Indesign, Quark, Illustrator and Photoshop. Please forward a pdf with your portfolio, as well as a cover letter and the username/password of your Facebook Account, to HR."
      • akatherder, on 11/18/2007, -3/+2My description was of a fellow who showed all the signs of coming into the office and shooting up the place. You describe EVERY person you employ. Get a clue.
        • aliguana, on 11/18/2007, -0/+2yeah, but if a person was "showing all the signs of coming in a shooting up the place", then you would already have suspicion, you wouldn't need to see his profile. EVERYONE has posted, on their blog, MySpace, Youtube, Facebook, something like "I hate my job, my boss sucks, I wish they would die in a deathstar explosion etc etc". at some point. Come on, admit it. Are you going to report every one of these to the police? Where does it end?

          My point is, you don't need Facebook to tell you if someone is going over the edge. You work with this person 8 hours a day, five days a week.
  • TacticalPenguin, on 11/17/2007, -4/+7So now your employer is allowed to violate your privacy because you're exercising your second amendment rights?
    • supermanred, on 11/17/2007, -0/+3Only in America. The United States of America, I mean.
  • glnn, on 11/17/2007, -1/+7I've heard too much crap about Facebook, I deactivated my account.
    • Deodrus, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1I hope you remembered to delete EVERYTHING before you closed it - OR ELSE THEY KEEP IT FOR ETERNITY IN CASE YOU COME BACK !!

      If you didn't, I suggest you re-activate it and delete everything - THEN deactivate it.
  • tracker198x, on 11/17/2007, -1/+10i didnt know owning guns or taking pics of guns was illegal now?
  • KnightMareInc, on 11/17/2007, -1/+7who cares if the person was a gun owner.
  • Zuljin, on 11/17/2007, -0/+3So there was pictures of HIM with HIS fire-arms on HER private profile?
    L2Pronoun
  • synce, on 11/17/2007, -4/+3Why is almost every digger so ***** cynical?
    • supermanred, on 11/17/2007, -2/+5It's called having a critical mind and reading a lot of books and information. It's why I'm cynical. In fact I would say the reason I smoke, drink bourbon, smoke pot and such is probably because of what I know.

      Ignorance is bliss.
  • inertic, on 11/17/2007, -4/+1If everyone knew of the links between facebook and the CIA, facebook would lose almost 50% of it's membership except for frat boys and sorority sluts.
    • supermanred, on 11/17/2007, -0/+4I saw that episode of south park where Cartman and friends used facebook and myspace to track people like CTU. Maybe you did too?
    • spyd3rweb, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1I've known about it for a long time, no one seems to notice and no one seems to care.
  • dredman, on 11/17/2007, -0/+8This article made no sense at all, so I call *****, how did the employer even know about the post, or the Facebook accounts unless:

    1. The employee told the employer about the posts and accounts or
    2. He posted something negative about the company only an employee might know
    • jimmiss, on 11/18/2007, -1/+2Savvy employers search out this stuff all the time these days.
    • bbqribs, on 12/17/2007, -0/+0Not necessarily ***** at all. I have an acquaintance that had photos of him on a hunting trip online. He was holding his Remington 270 in the photo. Some granola head woman that worked there got wind of the photos and started a stink with HR about how 'uncomfortable' she felt because she knew that this guy owned guns and 'killed animals.' So in walks Human Resources, and it was all downhill from there.

      What I do during my off time is NONE of my employers business.
  • somedigguy, on 11/17/2007, -0/+1there is no privacy on the internet, but they could be sued for breach of TOS
    • xtc46, on 11/17/2007, -1/+2probably not. Just about every company has a clause in their TOS that says it can be changed at any time without notice to the customer. Atleast every TOS I ever wrote (I have written a few) had that clause, its a way to CYA
  • bonlebon, on 11/17/2007, -0/+5If the company you work at is that mediocre to snoop in your private life, better update your resume and get out of there as soon as possible.
    • jazzman76063, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1I concur. What does it matter if that person owns guns? Although this is said by someone who lives in gun central (aka Texas).
  • midbc, on 11/17/2007, -4/+3only losers use sites like facebook and myspace and whatever the other crap attention whore sites are
    • HighWastesDrftr, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1I finally registered for facebook one month ago due to the request of a friend who has moved across the country. It seems to be rather convenient for keeping in touch with friends who you don't oft' see, but for much more than that it is superfluous.
  • maduin, on 11/17/2007, -0/+12I can't wait for the day that all these social networks reveal themselves to be the personal-information-data-mining sites they were created for. Gmail, Facebook, Myspace, Digg, they all collect your data so when they're bought out, all the assets (including your personal info), go to the highest bidder. Anonymity will be the most highly sought after status in about 20 years. I might as well start a company that wipes all your info off the web and make millions! Millions I tells ya! Millions!
    • TheMidnight, on 11/18/2007, -1/+2Who the ***** is going to buy out Google? God?
    • Racerx52, on 11/18/2007, -0/+2Really.
      I`m surprised people are...Surprised about this. This is what Facebook/Myspace/Copycat-of-Either was built for. Companies are tired of trying of offering many many things just to see what you want. Now, they are treated to YOU telling them exactly what you want, Whether you wanted to or not.
  • Gee1004, on 11/17/2007, -0/+2The only reason for these social networks is to look at hot naked women. Otherwise, start you own website and make your own rules
  • digiguy, on 11/17/2007, -1/+0That excuse of it's their server is a bunch of crap. No matter what, people have privacy. So that means my company has a right to rape me becuase I work on their property. They pay the rent and it's their building, so they can do whatever to me. BS.
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