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- jer2eydevil88, on 10/11/2007, -1/+102This is a really bad title for the article... very childish but the content is important.
The MAFIAA should not be able to threaten legal action against anyone who criticizes them, much less take their blog offline by nefarious means! I am digging this article up and digging you down for a childish response. - KMye, on 10/11/2007, -0/+42Definitely check out the email exchange, linked at the bottom of the article.
My favorite line from the *****: "It might not be nice to be sued by the RIAA and potentially put in a position of being made bankrupt" - Avalontor, on 10/11/2007, -3/+42Yes, you bring a whole new level of childishness to the beeotch! w00t! level. I imagine the RIAA is shaking in their boots right about now.
dead-nuts? where do you get these brillant sayings? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+32That's a threat in my book.
- TheCash, on 10/11/2007, -1/+28This is where bloggers are in their element, and this is why both the news and the entertainment industries are either going to change, or get swept down the gutter.
RIAA be damned... who cares how much money they spend on lawyers, they've already lost in the court of public opinion.
I hope they are able to pay their bills with lawsuits against the teenage pirates and ignorant house moms, because making their customers hate them sure as hell isn't selling any CD's. - LordVance, on 10/11/2007, -0/+27How about you RTFA moron; thats not what the blogger in question said, those are the article submitters words.
- leefnaspleaf, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20I love you, internet. First you broaden the horizons of music I can find and appreciate, and then you give me a vehicle through which I can show open hostility towards the selfish, lying idiots who have been actively hiding this music from me so they can shove their own uninspired, uninteresting marketing-rape down my throat.
I'm just glad that we're all actually in a position to slowly but surely bring this fat ***** mammoth down the GROUND. - ninephoenixes, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18Dugg for "dead-nuts accurate."
- jdhore1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16I believe the term "dead-nuts accurate" is used in the manufacturing/services industries when working with tools, measures, screws/nuts/bolts, etc. and it basically means PERFECTLY accurate...basically a dirtier version of "dead-on accurate".
- cpuRemix, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18Great now the RIAA is going to try to sue Digg for linking to this
- spect3r, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Too bad I was expecting to read a letter where Grant actually wrote "Bring it Beeotch w000t!", that would have been .... unique
- OBKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13[quote]Man-some bloggers can feel so powerful behind their screens...."Bring it beeotch!" Seriously?[/quote]
At times, many have been killed with a stroke of a pen.
These days, I suppose, a press of a key is even more deadly, beeotch. - Aliarse, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15"Bring it, Birch."
- superpixel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12hehe, yeah, unfortunate title, but what Grant says IS important-- and he says it so well!
- KegBol, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Am I the only person who used to buy all of his music, but now pirates nearly every single album just out of spite at the music industry?
These absolute swines have left me believing that the only way that real music will survive is if we destroy the income that it generates, so musicians start to produce music for the love of music and not for the lifestyle that it is supposed to pay for.
The funny thing is that I hate hippies, and to be made to sound like a hippie just makes me want to rip off the RIAA even more. Gits. - 5ymb10t3, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12FYI, the blogger didn't post this on Digg, someone else did, he had nothing to do with the whole beeotch thing. It is however funny as hell.
- ecorona, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10The RIAA and MPAA have WAY too much damn power over our lives. They are not elected officials, they are for-profit corporations. Why do we allow them to write our laws for us?
The RIAA's heavy-handed and authoritative tactics now include attempts at censorship as well. Things are so ***** up in this country. Look at all the harm these soul-less corporations do. We have haliburton, enron, basically any insurance company, plus now even the ***** RIAA and MPAA? What do we have as a defense to these huge corporations with bottomless pits full of money? Not a damned thing. We don't even have enough sense to elect public officials who are anything but downright corrupt.
Can some lawyer reading this draft a bill that would serve as protection against the MAFIAA? I'll get all of my friends to start a letter-writing campaign and send it to as many elected public servants as possible - OBKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8The term "dead nuts accurate" is derived from "dead on balls accurate."
I am not sure how sh1595 became familiar with this somewhat obscure saying. Perhaps it is more popular in some circles than others? I have not often heard it used in casual dialog. - CountryBoyRI, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7@91degrees:
Did you read the email conversation? At one point, the lawyer tells him, "It might not be nice to be sued by the RIAA and potentially put in a position of being made bankrupt; neither is issuing redundancy notices to hard working staff."
If he doesn't remove the link (and the opinion), they're going to sue him and bankrupt him in the process, and embarrass him in front of his coworkers.
That sounds pretty menacing to me. - ArgusSmith, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8What I like best is the third e-mail by Paul (the one who requests the links be taken down) in the e-mail exchange linked at the bottom--it's riddled with grammatical errors and basically sounds like a hastily written high school essay...
"Andrew, Well I am in regular contact with the RIAA and both they and the IFPI are subject to hate mail as a consequence of hubcap, our litigation against consumers for illegally downloading our copyrights.
This manifests itself into individual members of our RIAA management being singled-out for malicious statements and blogs on the internet. As an example you probably saw the case earlier in the week of a Chinese Laundry in the United States being sued for $54M for loosing a pair of trousers, belonging to a lawyer. If you take a look at the criticism on your blog of the RIAA by one of the contributors, they are engaging in a similar malicious prosecution in the US courts but go further and make a number of assertions through your blog that gives credibility to illegal downloading.
I am not concerned that people decide to take out law-suits against our organisations; we have the resources to deal with that. What does concern me however is the repeating of malicious falsehoods that occur in a number of internet blog, and are re-reported as having validity contribute widely to the assertion that right is on the side of wrong-doing.
You might argue that your professional blog is your opinion alone, however you are interwoven into the views and policy of the University of Central England and I think that puts you in an exposed positon Andrew.
It might not be nice to be sued by the RIAA and potentially put in a position of being made bankrupt; neither is issuing redundancy notices to hard working staff. People don't have to download; they do however have to work. Consumers that enjoy music have a lot of options and enjoying it free on the radio is at least one of them, with last FM and You Tube there is near on demand service free at the point of use. But stealing isn't clever, but presumably most people don't really wish to steal, and only share because it is so easy and seems harmless/victimless. If people need to affirmatively hide their activities, then there is an understanding of wrongdoing. I feel that your blog underpins the misuse of our copyright and attacks our trade associations.
There are very serious allegations made in this anti-RIAA link on your blog, and I don't think its appropriate that you link to them.
Paul"
Highlights: He uses the word "malicious" three times in two paragraphs, basically states that working for a university funded by a government means you can't post an opinion online, and asserts that suing a laundry for $54M over a lost pair of pants is the same type of "malicious prosecution" as countersuing the RIAA, which is well known for its questionable practices in lawsuits. - OregonTrail, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Read the actual email exchange!
http://p2pnet.net/story/12517
It's evident from the final email from the RIAA that this organization does not understand the concept of free speech. - Empyrean, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6"There are very serious allegations made in this anti-RIAA link on your blog, and I don’t think its appropriate that you link to them."
So now the RIAA and those affiliated are the blog police, and anyone posting anti-RIAA opinions and information will be threatened with lawsuits? Geez, is everyone who works for or is even remotely affiliated with the RIAA a little whiny bitch? Oh wait, nevermind... - sh1595, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I'm guilty: I got carried away after reading Grant's post and I'll cop to... Wost. Title. Ever. Grant's was a thoughtful and articulate piece, and I devalued it with my sophomoric lead. But seriously, Grant, if you happen to read these comments: Nice job. I apologize for associating it with such a juvenile headline.
/sh1595 - HunkieChan, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7riaa is american's nightmare. burn em!
- johnnyklaj, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Haha, Birch wants to down freedom of speech.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8956330@N05/556063377/ - Rabbethan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Great article. Worst ***** title ever.
- unknownpoltroon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4hell yeah. Napster doubled my cd buying when it first came out. Once they started they're lawsuit games, I stopped buying new cds. Havent bought one since about 2000 or so. that's probably 3000 a year of revenue they've lost.
- Bootes, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I find it funny that Download Squad is owned by TimeWarner, who also owns one of the largest record labels. While the guy threatening with legal action, seems to be a nobody.
- thekow, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I am in the same boat - I used to download individual songs, and occasionally a few extra tracks off of albums, as a preview to see whether or not I should buy the full album. Now I support artists / albums I enjoy by seeing shows and buying merch; I download almost every album before I even consider buying it.
- mlopes, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4> What does concern me however is the repeating of malicious falsehoods that occur in a number of internet blog, and are re-reported as
> having validity contribute widely to the assertion that right is on the side of wrong-doing.
Just ignore the term 'falsehoods'. Most articles talking about RIAA are actually reporting another case suit against someone and are, unfortunately, very true. Moreover, they keep threatening for a financial settlement even if they don't have any prove whatsoever.
So, whenever you see one of these cases, write on your blog. Tell your friends. Warn your parents. Advise your family.
From King Leonidas in 300:
Let's give them hell! - betajippity, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@jrocknyc
The fact that the letter is long doesn't mean that it's of no importance. The letter is long, yes, but Grant makes a dead-on accurate point and I therefore digg this. Even if the title is a bit childish.
Do you expect everything in the world to be poorly articulated, short and explosively action-packed? - lnternet, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Aww, I love you too!
- illiteratebeef, on 10/11/2007, -6/+8my response to his last e-mail would be:
'Suck a fat donkey dick, you ass-clown.'
i don't like bullies... - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Next up: "How to sue the RIAA For Dummies" gets published and sells 5,000,000 copies a week worldwide.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Quite frankly, since I started using a torrent client to try-before-I-buy, I have purchased more music than I ever did in my life. I found obscure artists that don't make the top 40 charts, and I have reignited my love for music. If the RIAA were run by anything other than a bunch of money grubbing incompetents they would encourage on-line file sharing and let the profits from the increase in sales roll in.
- Phoenix99, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Paul is now going through to books thinking "Can we sue all the people who dugg this article, there's got to be a way, if there isn't we'll just make up a reason."
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RIAA suing users of digg for digging article with negative opinion of them. - ScottMaximus1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. - ccanni1028, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2OregonTrail - Or instead of linking to more blogspam, how about the actual site this is regarding?
http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/06/14/an-ifpi-bpi-board-member-writes/ - ccanni1028, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I have to agree, that could be taken as a threat (here in the US at least, I don't know about in the UK).
- phoomp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It's pretty rich threatening malicious prosecution because you think you're being maliciously prosecuted ...
- badogg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I have just always loved the word "Beeotch". Thanks Too-$hort...
And I am slightly disappointed that 'Beeotch' or 'w00t' wasn't actually written to the RIAA. That would have been, just great!!
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Fight on, man! - yellowsnowman7, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Give'em hell Grant Robertson!!!
- adam1mc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1***** the RIAA. What a bunch of ***** tools. Quit buying CD's from an organization that targets their customers. And ***** YOU TOO PAUL!
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1The RIAA and MPAA have WAY too much damn power over our lives. They are not elected officials, they are for-profit corporations. Why do we allow them to write our laws for us?
It's their content and they have a right to protect it. If you don't want them to have power over your life, stop using the things they control. Until then, every time you buy, rent or download music and movies, *you* are electing that they have some say so. - charzi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Dubber (the blogger who got called out for linking) DOES NOT MAKE ***** UP. what everybody else does is up to them.
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