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- Itazura, on 10/11/2007, -5/+343Batman Returns? They want to try and catch pirates with Batman Returns? Seriously, who got paid for that idea?
- Itazura, on 10/11/2007, -30/+207Wow...thanks digg for your new comment system, its about as good and glitched as myspace.
- str3ama, on 10/11/2007, -5/+159They also have/had 300. This is entrapment isn't it?
- ericodom, on 10/11/2007, -2/+118The site in question seems to be down?
http://miivi.com/ - KlayBorg, on 10/11/2007, -3/+106D-Dos rocks.
- tizz66, on 10/11/2007, -2/+97Call me stupid, but watching videos on teh interwebs isn't illegal. Uploading them is. What can they possibly charge you with if you innocently go over to their site and watch some of their videos?
Thanks for the free movies, 'MiiVi'. - KlayBorg, on 10/11/2007, -2/+81This sites already down anyway. Yay for D-Dos attacks :D
- phantom_mullet, on 10/11/2007, -4/+80In other news, Demonoid is back up...
- corevette, on 10/11/2007, -7/+70because everything needs proof: http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9595/miiviuc9.png
- DocHoliday22, on 10/11/2007, -4/+66They're just a bunch of *****. Pure and simple.
- ThrobbingBrain, on 10/11/2007, -4/+63They're just a bunch of *****. Pure and simple.
- hirak99, on 10/11/2007, -1/+53This is they day that you will always remember, as the day when you *almost* caught Captain Jack Sparrow ;)
- netdroid9, on 10/11/2007, -7/+56Entrapment, anyone?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+50I will go there just to download, I would LOVE for them to even try and take me to court. The case would fall like a badly stacked house of cards
- AlmostEvil, on 10/11/2007, -5/+52Dude, Michelle Pfeiffer in a rubber catsuit, high heels and a whip.
What are you, gay? - Lyght, on 10/11/2007, -4/+47This is already on the Top 10 under news... http://digg.com/tech_news/Anti_Piracy_Gang_Launches_their_own_Video_Download_Site_to_Trap_People
- Fhwqhgads, on 10/11/2007, -0/+41Justified in this case.
- spudnic, on 10/11/2007, -2/+41I think 'I'm no lawyer' was a bit redundant after starting the sentence with 'yo'
- ThndrShk2k, on 10/11/2007, -0/+35Downloading content is not illegal in the first place. Only distributing it.
The company who makes the content downloadable- by choice -lawfully cannot place a lawsuit against the downloader because the person who is receiving the file cannot verify it's legality, nor if it's even the file they want, before opening it; as well they are obtaining it directly from the copyright holder.
Although this isn't technically giving up copyright, it's all but saying "Goto this site, download movies from Hollywood companies for free, with permission of Hollywood copyright owners!" Any lawsuit brought by such a site is frivilous and malicious towards the consumer, in which would bring down the site and should impose fines for premeditation and exploitation.
All i have to say is "Nice jerb MPAA, Nice Jerb" - Darthcactaur, on 10/11/2007, -2/+37You can say that again.
- pring, on 10/11/2007, -0/+31Does the custom application's EULA specify that it will scan your computer for copyrighted material and could be used against you in court? If not, can't they be sued for installing spyware on your computer without informing you of the information they are collecting and what they will do with it?
- Smills, on 10/11/2007, -6/+37Just change global settings to expand all and it is pretty much like old then, just with more threads.
- gotamd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+30So do they let you actually download the movie or whatever? If so, they've obviously been granted the rights to distribute by the copyright holders or they themselves would be breaking the law. And if that is the case, then how can they "get you" for downloading a file from a website licensed to distribute them by the copyright holders?
- DocHoliday22, on 10/11/2007, -8/+38They're just a bunch of *****. Pure and simple.
- tuxidomasx, on 10/11/2007, -1/+30i'm pretty sure entrapment can only be done by law enforcement officials.
what they are doing doesnt seem anymore illegal than indirectly inviting someone to steal your car so you can call the police on them
its still kinda shady tho. definitely a lame move by the MPAA if its true - gta3mobster, on 10/11/2007, -1/+30http://miivi.com/media.php?hash=541A05642773D86305153D9958D7B67350AC26E0
Suspicious...? The media is referenced by the 40 character hash. Wonder what that means.
MMkay. I don't like using domain names. I much rather use IP addresses. Shall we?...
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
ping miivi.com
Pinging miivi.com [38.102.232.160] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out. //(X4)
ping www.miivi.com
Pinging www.miivi.com [216.151.137.2] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out. //(X4)
Interestingly enough, they are two different addresses.
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from: http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl
Search results for: 216.151.137.2 // [HTTP://WWW.MIIVI.COM]
Output from ARIN WHOIS
OrgName: Xeex
OrgID: XEEX
Address: 2461 Santa Monica Blvd.
Address: Suite #517
City: Santa Monica
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 90404
Country: US
ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.xeex.com:4321/
NetRange: 216.151.128.0 - 216.151.159.255
CIDR: 216.151.128.0/19
NetName: XEEX-COMMUNICATIONS-2
NetHandle: NET-216-151-128-0-1
Parent: NET-216-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS01.XEEX.COM
NameServer: NS02.XEEX.COM
Comment: Rwhois information can be found at
Comment: rwhois://rwhois.xeex.com:4321/
RegDate: 2005-03-15
Updated: 2006-06-02
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Search results for: 38.102.232.160 // [HTTP://MIIVI.COM]
OrgName: Performance Systems International Inc.
OrgID: PSI
Address: 1015 31st St NW
City: Washington
StateProv: DC
PostalCode: 20007
Country: US
NetRange: 38.0.0.0 - 38.255.255.255
CIDR: 38.0.0.0/8
NetName: PSINETA
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MEDIADEFENDER:
MAILING ADDRESS:
2461 Santa Monica Blvd., D-520
Santa Monica, CA 90404
PHONE: (310) 956-3300
FAX: (310) 956-3391
http://mediadefender.com/contactUs.html
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// [From the Google CACHE of his MYSPACE page...]
Dos Manos's Companies
Miivi.com
Santa Monica, CA US
Chief Editor
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2461 santa monica blvd santa monica CA 90404. What are those odds? They are in fact in the same building. Madness! And to top it off, 2 hands is in Santa Monica as well...
A quick trip over to google reveals "PSINETA." Many users complain about it disrupting their normal flow of internet traffic. That sounds illegal to me... *bwahaha* So miivi.com is exactly what the article says.
Also, "Bad Request (Invalid Hostname)" is not an error. They made the webpage say that. I can type in www.3456hjow3q526iop3u6h.com and it says "cannot find server", not "invalid hostname."
The 4th of July with nothing to do until nightfall. I shall continue to digg deeper. - JPDyno, on 10/11/2007, -0/+28I dont think its entrapment,
But Seriously, If I put a TV in the trading post with a sign 'free to anyone who takes it'.... I hardly think Id be able to get them arrested..... but it seems the MPAA can. - tehrob, on 10/11/2007, -4/+28milivanili.com?
- theeEqualizer, on 10/11/2007, -9/+32Yeah, I don't see this working out for them legally. Any lawyer could pin them for entrapment. That's what it is, clear and simple.
btw, I happen to work for a company that gets direct correspondence with such parties, and I can verify, MediaDefender does indeed subpoena individuals. I even recognized the contact's name. - ccrook, on 10/11/2007, -0/+23IANAL but it could be construed as the MPAA giving up their copyright by they themselves allowing their content to be put up online and downloaded for free.
- brianbb98, on 10/11/2007, -2/+24no.
***** the MPAA... and the RIAA - gotamd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21That's exactly what I was thinking. It also seems like they would have to have a license from the copyright holders to distribute these movies, so what illegal activity is going on here? If it's illegal to download from that website, then it seems to me like it should also be illegal for them to upload the material to you.
- missingnoh4x, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21The irony burns.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+20guess I won't be joining any "Hot New" file sharing sites. I'll stick to what I know.
- AzraDarkness, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
I wonder if they realized they got caught :D - randomgeek, on 10/11/2007, -4/+23This has been said over and over, but no, it's not entrapment. Entrapment is when the police intentionally lead to you to do something that could be argued that you wouldn't otherwise do, soley for the purpose of arresting you. The MPAA are not the police, so that right there rules out entrapment, but also it couldn't be argued that you would never download pirated content and that you were drawn into using this website. The fact is, if you used the website, uploaded and downloaded illegal content, you'd be doing it of your own volition.
- slipgrid, on 10/11/2007, -5/+23Yo, I'm no lawyer, but to say that's not entrapment is straining the language. It *is* a trap.
- bluechips23, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18They also have 300? This is MADNESS!
- ojk007, on 10/11/2007, -3/+19For what its worth it was one of the most poorly designed sites ever..
- kungfumaniac, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16I'd buy movies if the MPAA just got their heads out of their collective asses and let me buy them from iTunes and burn it to a DVD.
Until then, it's just easier to pirate. - Hangender, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16MPAA is promoting the distribution of illegal file sharing. I suggest the MPAA sent a take down notice to the MPAA.
- mrmdc, on 10/11/2007, -4/+19The MPAA police their content.
The 'police' do not handle copyright infringement over the internet, that's a civil matter, not a criminal matter.
Without the website you wouldn't be uploading the content, so, yes, it is entrapment. - theoallardyce, on 10/11/2007, -4/+19Hang on then, carrying a weapon for self-defence is legal in the US, so why dont people start using entrapment against street gangs - walk up to a gang and taunt them until they pull a gun on you, then have a few buddies take the gang out from afar. It would clean the streets up in no time.
- missingnoh4x, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15Technically not entrapment, but it is a trap. [cue Admiral Ackbar]
- ninj3, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16If they're not police, and it's not entrapment, then wouldn't that make them complicit in the crime since they are providing illegal content? Or retrieving it from your PC?
- joper90, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14This is a honeypot is it not? not entrapment?
- abdrahman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15Because instigating violence is illegal.
- rhabd0mancer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15Oh noes.
I must be the worst pirate evar. - lawbag, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13well well well, it took them a LONG time to work out this little scam. You'd have thought they would have masterminded this years ago, which shows their long term planning and foresight deserves to be beaten down. They couldnt foresee the demise of the CD and DVD in the same way they couldnt foresee a subtle way of trapping "victims".
Surely this software which downloads rates as illegal, a trojan or spam or spyware? - merreborn, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13It'd be funny if nintendo sued these guys for infringing on their "Mii" trademark.
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