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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+91This is much better than Google turning public information to the government
- Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+39If you don't want Google to know about something, don't make it available on the internet or include a robots.txt on your site that blocks that content. If it's something on a public site that you feel needs to private, you shouldn't have posted it there in the first place. Same goes to goverments and organisations aswell, ultimately.
- marxfriedrice, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32"Isnt there anything that google cant find?"
Yeah, the documents hidden in File 404. - mmalone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26I usually don't criticize grammar and whatnot, but "You'll also _here_ people say..?" Come on. You shouldn't need Strunk and White to tell you that's wrong.
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16hehehe, but really, absolute bureaucratic transparency is a good thing.
- Mootabolife, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19the answer to life, the universe, and everything
Google: 42
It can find everything! - ampersand2001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9thanks, but I already knew that george bush is a lying cheating bastard.
thanks! - TheTSArt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8It's one thing to have Government policies, actions, etc. available on the internet for public browsing, that one step towards preventing corruption in government.
However, asking the Government to post information pertaining to the citizenry is altogether something else. Are we no longer allowed any sense of privacy, at all, anymore? Plus, look how many times government makes mistakes... One stupid mistake that might not ever have been seen before could now end up ruining your life for years. - WarpFox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7your links require 87% more layperson summary.
- DorkmasterFlek, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11If I become President, I'm going to mandate licenses for accessing the Internet that include grammar classes and learning how to identify fake emails.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"Was anyone else dyslexic and thought Google was handing over all of our information?"
I quickly read "Google, Government, and Information" and thought uh oh, this can't be good. Then I realized I'm a retard. :) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Google has already done an unbelievable job with http://www.google.com/patents
Anyone used to the old system will literally cry tears of joy after seeing how easy it is with Google. - Hacbarton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Was anyone else dyslexic and thought Google was handing over all of our information?
- GRat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5As an IT consultant in Virginia that worked on indexing one of the state's data-rich websites in Google, I must say that this is a very good thing that hopefully continues throughout the country. In Virginia, there is a strong push for open government and using the Internet to keep the public informed. There is a tremendous amount of data available to the public (which is mostly used by policy makers and other state agencies), but ultimately this type of information serves to keep the government accountable.
- TheIguana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Funny the site seems to have died before even duggmirror could catch it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4How many people read the article? I know duggmirror didn't get it and the headline is misleading (as usual).
States such as Arizona are "teaming up" with google in order to index important information so that citizens can access it better. This isn't in any way a campaign to lessen corruption, because again, the states are working with google and of course, no white collar criminals are going to give information pertaining to corruption to google's index. - Archon810, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4how about we actually make use of the Reply button?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Working Link:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/internet/04/29/google.records.ap/index.html - Sakk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7I hered that google is kool
- GRat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Google partners with four US states to improve access to government websites (and thus, information and services).
It is a common misnomer that "everything is available on the web." You'll also hear people say that the answer to any question is just a Google search away. Neither of these ideas are true, but hopefully over time they'll become more and more the reality. Today came news that we're one baby step closer to that reality.
Google Inc. announced today their partnerships with Arizona, California, Utah and Virginia to make it easier to search for hard-to-find public information on state government websites. Much of what exists on government websites has not been opened up to the Google index (thus, not findable in a Google search). Also, the search engines on these sites are of questionable ability, so searching for information at .gov sites can be as frustrating as going to a government office. Well, maybe not as frustrating as a DMV visit, but still far from user-friendly.
Tim Kaine, Governor of Virginia said “Our goal is to provide easy, quick and intuitive citizen access to every government resource. Google is helping us to achieve it.” Hopefully, every state is striving towards the same goal. What would help this along? If Yahoo! and MSN roll out their search technology and partner with other states to increase accessibility. Then we can get some good old-fashioned competition in the field of making government services more transparent. - radu79, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I sure hope they are not going to put stuff about people online (like driver licenses and things like that), making identity theft even easier than it is now.
- khafra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'd say something like "misapprehension" instead of "misnomer," but other than that it's a good post of a good article.
- surfing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3As President, I would ban trucks and SUVs from the left lane. People that don't use their turn signals would be jailed. ... and three chickens in every pot.
- jonathan95060, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Much of what exists on government websites has not been opened up to the Google index (thus, not findable in a Google search)."
Why in the world would publicly accessible web pages have been marked "do not index" by the government? It seems wrong that the government would have asked Google/Yahoo/MSN not to search and index their public websites. - FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3*ironic* tag does a double-take
- geekitechture, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2As President, I would ban the access of surfers who don't like the phrase "and whatnot," and whatnot.
What-*****-ever. - understudy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1
@dbz
I love simplicity, but there is a better way to do it than a thin Times New Roman variant logo with a drop shadow.
_ - Kavok, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This whole argument is kinda old, Google has two options:
1. Censor some content, let Chinese citizens see the rest, and get into a growing market.
2. Do no business with the Chinese.
Google and China squaring off benefits no one, do you think not being allowed to access Google would HELP Chinese 'freedom'? Besides - who are you to tell another country how to run itself? - deelirium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh, please, Google come to our school district and give us a goddamn search feature on our website because our web admin is too busy to build one himself!!!
- dbz253, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@understudy:
it's called beauty in simplicity - Kavok, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@radu79:
I sure hope that the -government- isn't making these things public. - tomis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's "You'll also hear people" not _here_
If you can't take the time to spell-check, you will be dugg down. I'm tired of people submitting stories with horrible grammar and spelling mistakes. It's an insult to think that you can be so lazy and expect us to view your story. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1why in the world would you want all the information ever available to everyone?
thats just silly. it's like when people want to live forever.... - DreKor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It looks like he's worried about government sponsored social engineering.
- shirosamurai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1That's exactly what I thought it was at first. Here I clicked on the comments link, expecting to find dozens of angry posts.
- LotusWolf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"You'll also here people say"
hear not here. pet peeve - Hackdaddy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1This is chilling...
"Indeed, 'false flag' operations will undoubtedly be an important tool for gathering information where social cleavages or other differences can be exploited."
http://www.google.com/search?site=unclesam&restrict=unclesam&hl=en&output=unclesam&q=psychological+operations+%22false+flag%22&btnG=Search
http://www.ndu.edu/inss/books/Books%20-%201996/Information%20Warfare%20and%20Deterence%20-%20Feb%2096/appb.html
"Asymmetries of different types may also create vulnerabilities. Groups or organizations with different agendas undertake attacks in forms that cannot be predicted from threat analyses that focus on national targets. Individual hackers have shown remarkable flexibility and resilience when attacking large systems. Differing perceptions of goals compatibility can also lead to inappropriate cooperation, virtually giving away key information. Indeed, "false flag" operations will undoubtedly be an important tool for gathering information where social cleavages or other differences can be exploited." - AnubisAscended, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Site's back up.
- manfrin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2No cacheing site got this.
- Yorn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1This title is horribly inaccurate. This is borderline sensationalism in a heading to catch reader interest and generally what I would consider foul play.
- AnubisAscended, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@theiguana:
In Soviet Russia, site catches DuggMirror! - WarpFox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1How come google's blog doesn't mention this?
- kirtap, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1=(
if someone has it oen they should copy & paste it. - jmazzi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Check the links before you post em.
"DuggMirror
Sorry, a mirror of Google turns over goverment information to the public. is not available.
" - understudy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4
@0011digger
Q: "Isnt there anything that google cant find?"
A: A good team of graphic designers.
_ - theNazz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Considering that Google openly admits to censoring content for the Chinese government, why would I trust the information that they are giving to me?
I'm sure Google that would never sell out for a government business contract... - kahrn, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Site is already feeling digg effect.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1[quote]no white collar criminals are going to give information pertaining to corruption to google's index.[/quote]
Bush says he doesn't even use computers. - lordthor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1"You'll also here people say"
One of these words is not like the other. One of these words just isn't the same. - azzymoosa, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0seems like we are going to have fun!
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