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- fiorenza, on 04/15/2008, -4/+20Apple should be very, very afraid. But as an Apple zealot myself, I am happy to see Apple have some real competition.
- modelcadet, on 04/15/2008, -3/+12Things I'd want from my Andriod:
-IR communication utilized as a remote for my TV, my stereo, my DVD player, and other things that could be incorporated into my shiney new universal remote. RFID and GPS for integration with Google (Earth, Search, Adsense, Youtube, the video version of Microsoft's Photosynth technology powered by GPS *in conjunction with local RFID networks*), Facebook (or, more likely, it's eventual successor), and financial companies (ATM cards, financial planners & bill scanners). Of course I'll hook up Android to a Twiddler, a headset utilizing Speech Courier, and a one eye wearable monitor.
What else do you guys want on your Android machine? - jamshid, on 04/16/2008, -0/+9"Users don't need permission to install applications." -- that's beautiful!
Can you imagine where we'd be if users didn't have the ability to install whatever applications they want on their computer? Accept no less freedom on your phone, it is after all the new personal computer.
While I love my iPhone, I'm glad Android is around, hopefully that will push Apple to be more open about what can be run on the iPhone (no dynamic scripts?! no background apps?!).
Good luck to google, they'll need it. Sure they have a lot of smart folks, but I don't know if that is enough to overcome the stupidity of mobile phone makers and service providers. - utahcanuck, on 04/16/2008, -0/+9An open source phone is a big deal. The multi-use cell phone is still a relatively new market with a lot of potential to change the way people can do business on the fly. Right now, the iPhone is a fancy pants phone that has the internet and not a hell of a lot else, and most of the people who have them just want to be seen with them. an open source phone with actually useful applications is a totally different ball game
- MasterTroll, on 04/15/2008, -4/+10pron
- DjArcadian, on 04/16/2008, -1/+7There's no doubt it will be successful. Nobody has made a really good handset operating system yet. I'm tempted to get an iPhone myself but I'm holding out for something with Android on it.
- JasonCox, on 04/15/2008, -1/+6With our luck, Google is going to crank out a great mobile OS and handset OEM's are just going to keep putting it on the same crappy handsets they've been giving us WM on for years.
- Murdats, on 04/15/2008, -1/+5"IR communication utilized as a remote for my TV, my stereo, my DVD player..."
been available for at least a decade on anything with an IR port
RFID and GPS for integration with Google
I dont know what the rfid is for but combine gps and browser, and google gears for windows mobile and you have all of those
"Facebook"
once again, browser
"and financial companies "
not sure what you mean, perhaps to do internet banking, once again, browser.
and seeing as a lot of pda's have standard vga output, you could get a wearable display for them, and what speech courier is I have nfi, maybe voice recognition, then fine thats available aswell and the twiddler just looks stupid (but no doubt can work with windows mobile)
so everything you want from your future android has been available for years, other then that it just sounded like you were throwing out buzzwords - inactive, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3It IS on the same market. Practically you're saying that Windows and Linux aren't in the same market because Linux is open and Windows isn't. Geez, is like if you Apple fanboys can't stand competition between two companies that you like. Gimme a break.
- Adenosine, on 04/15/2008, -1/+4My ol' Palm Treo (RIP), could run any media file format thanks to The Core pocket media player software. I would like to see my next device ( to eventually replace my Crackberry Curve) to also have a very versatile media playback ability, and to do it with some pizzaz! Cell phone media player solutions are all so ***** (barring the iphone). Combine that with GPS, and a great suite of internet/data tools, I'll buy one
- ackermannc, on 05/01/2008, -0/+3Explain all the similarities in Stanford's snobbery compared to Google.
- luchid, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3What?
- skyshock1, on 04/16/2008, -1/+4Well the browser is based off the open-source Webkit engine, which is vastly superior to Gecko (engine that FF uses) so yes, most likely it will be better. It'd be cool if Google gives it an extensibility framework so that people can write extensions for it similar to Firefox.
- DjArcadian, on 04/16/2008, -2/+5I don't think it will "overtake" Apple. Android is simply an operating system and the branding will still be done by the cellphone makers. Samsung, Nokia, Ericsson, et al. Hell, Apple could sell an iPhone will Android on it. They're too entirely different concepts.
- zydeco, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3I want a battery that can handle the power consumption for all the things you listed. Oh, and a pony.
- SolidSnak, on 04/16/2008, -1/+4Whats wrong with Firefox?
- SolidSnak, on 04/16/2008, -0/+2I would like to be able to run what programs i want to on a handset without having to hack it first.
- tattertech, on 04/15/2008, -5/+7Apple isn't even in the same market. Apple generally avoids anything that even looks like it might be an open platform. They have their niche market that just wants the brand on it (and the trendy designs).
- Atomic1fire, on 04/16/2008, -0/+2®
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and that edit limit doesn't help much - Quick2822, on 04/16/2008, -0/+2I've been tempted to cave and buy the iPhone, but I keep holding out for Android. After reading this, I think I've made the right decision.
- Atomic1fire, on 04/16/2008, -0/+2Powered by Android(R)?
- robthom, on 04/16/2008, -0/+2Awesome.
- guiltyblade, on 04/16/2008, -0/+2That screenshot looks like a final fantasy menu screen.
- jhodapp, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1And why is Webkit vstly superior to Gecko exactly? Last I checked, Webkit had more security holes reported (major ones especially) than Gecko and other things like that. At least say why you think Webkit is better than Gecko instead of making a blanket statement completely dismissing it. Webkit is awesome and small and lightweight, but why compare it to Gecko like that?
- tattertech, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1?? Dude.... not a fan boy. I hate how everything Apple is proprietary. The fact of the matter is, the iPhone's chief appeal is to anyone who wants a relatively closed system on a very specific phone. The point of Android is to be completely open and on any phone that wants to support it.
- jhodapp, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1That's a rather ignorant and close-minded comment. Java can be accelerated quite a bit with native compiling and/or a processor that can execute native Java byte code.
- employeeno5, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1This has been exactly my worry. I can't wait to get a phone with a Linux based operating system. However, if that operating system is on a device that breaks with the touch of a feather, or a device that makes it almost impossible to get at my os to augment it, or requires a plan that breaks the bank with absurd charges, or is just plain ugly and difficult to use, etc. etc; then there's not going to be too much to jump for joy for.
Open source, mobile devices are an exciting idea. Phone manufacturers and mobile carriers are never exciting. At least not in the US. - Atomic1fire, on 04/16/2008, -1/+2When you have a multimillion dollar company backing an open source operating system
I'm sure the stupidity can be fixed - robthom, on 04/15/2008, -3/+4Hopefully its better than firefox.
- moduc, on 04/16/2008, -1/+2So strange that people forget about the OS war. Microsoft Windows can be slapped onto any personal computer (PC, x86), and an Apple is a hardware + software. That's how the argument was, and so they're not in a same market. See how Microsoft dominate the field with their OS?
If Android is opened, and good enough for the time, more people will buy the phone (because there are more choice => lower cost and higher chance of innovation), and it will become the dominant platform with more vendors supporting it (not just the hardware maker, but tools, communication companies, add on, app developers, games, business app, just about anything). That's a tough competitor to beat. Anyway, I like Android to be successful. I just can't stand Apple charging so much more for their hardware. - Atomic1fire, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1A. Reception is a network problem not an os/software one
B. Of course there are things that can be done to increase battery life by decreasing power consumption but I dont think that its going to do much good regardless - skyshock1, on 04/16/2008, -1/+2VLC. I have a streaming music server at home. I want my Android phone to be able to pick up the audio stream over Wi-Fi from my home server and essentially serve as a "dumb-MP3 player". I also want Skype and possibly a video chat client so I can bypass those ***** wireless providers and just use Wi-Fi when it's available.
- Murdats, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1Do not get me wrong, I am also looking forward to what android can do, but it irritates me when people start praising 'innovative new technology' that is not innovative or new
- Krpano, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1Spammer
- Atomic1fire, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1With android that probably is possible as long as the programs are supporting it and the networks have an option to install any program compatible with android
- Murdats, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1I can at this moment play audio and video streams over wifi through my windows mobile device or you can play the file through standard windows file sharing, I can also use it for skype, and the phone I will be getting can do video chat aswell (3g and internet)
- Murdats, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1the core player (the retail version of TCPMP ) is actually quite full featured (more then TCPMP) and shiny, and skinnable.
- Krpano, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1Release date ?
Thats the question. - lordewoks, on 04/16/2008, -1/+1That's true in a sense. Honestly, I think cellphone makers would gain more hype/popularity by leaving the "Android" nameplate intact.
- lordewoks, on 04/15/2008, -4/+4Observing how Android's open model quickly overtakes Apple's initially-closed model in terms of marketshare and innovation of applications will be quite interesting...
- edgedmurasame, on 04/16/2008, -6/+6Unfortunately that "open ecosystem" is quite counter to how they actually operate as a company.
- SolidSnak, on 04/16/2008, -1/+1Stupid question.
- DelMonte, on 04/16/2008, -1/+1"So strange that people forget about the OS war. Microsoft Windows can be slapped onto any personal computer (PC, x86), and an Apple is a hardware + software. That's how the argument was, and so they're not in a same market. See how Microsoft dominate the field with their OS?"
Being able to run on hardware from multiple manufacturers hardly guarantees market domination. Microsoft didn't end up dominating solely because their OS could run on hardware from multiple companies. CP/M could run on multiple hardware platforms, where are they now? MS was lucky enough to be able to provide a solution to have "IBM compatible" computers, and quickly got a stronghold on the market, which was amplified by the fact that people were locked into the DOS/Windows platform because of backward-compatibility.
While Google is also a strong brand name, it's still, in the minds of the majority, just a search engine. I don't think that having a "Google compatible" phone will help Android get a stronghold on the market.
I'm happy to see competition, but don't get your hopes to high, being "open" is not magical, and it has a few drawbacks. - skyshock1, on 04/16/2008, -1/+1The fact that it's open source is great, and the fact that it's so easily extensible is great, but the core of the browser, the Gecko rendering engine, is one of the slowest as far as rendering speeds go. Not to mention the myriad of memory problems that have plagued the browser (until the recent fixes maybe?).
- legoalert33, on 04/15/2008, -1/+1"Adsense"
why? - D3kkon, on 04/16/2008, -0/+0Cause Android use Java for mostly every app, I can say that will never use it. lol. I can get better performance on a Windows Mobile Phone.
- Aleman360, on 04/15/2008, -5/+4Apple doesn't even have that much marketshare in the cell phone market.
- toxicityj, on 04/16/2008, -2/+1it's like windows/linux v. OS X in the sense that Apple has once again locked itself in "our OS only works on our hardware" while the primary competitor(s) leave their OS so that it can be run on just about anything. I think that in the long run that will do more to harm Apple than help it.
- inactive, on 04/16/2008, -2/+1I don't think that Apple should worry. Even though Android is a good platform it will lack the 'hip' factor that the Apple branding gives. Google should really put some marketing on Android as the Google mobile platform if they want to see a consumer reaction other than what they react to yet another Verizon/ATT branded phone.
- euro22, on 12/17/2008, -3/+2*****
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