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- SmeRndmGy, on 10/20/2007, -0/+9"You're taking up Google's stance for child pornography?"
google does not host child pornography. if your friend goes on your computer and types "naked 8 year old boys" into google image search just to be a jerk, do you want to get arrested and hauled off to an eastern european torture camp? do you want someone reading and knowing everything you have ever searched for on the internet? child porn is an excuse, they want to "dissapear" anyone who searches for bomb making or 911 conspiracy or 2000 US election results. someone looking at a little boy's ass is just their excuse. - Pas3n7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6" Ask Jeeves, an Internet search engine owned by IAC/InterActiveCorp, has not received any requests from the government, spokesman Patrick Crisp said."
That's gotta hurt. - muikano, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Justice Dept: Look, all your friends are doing it. Come on. Don't make me angry now. Look, even Yahoo is doing it. We just want "limited" access to privacy data. If you don't have anything to hide, you won't have to worry about anything. We will never use the data for evil. Everyone knows the government doesn't resort to blackmail (google:SGLI, dragon skin) or leak information like a faucet.
How do we define 'limited' access? Well, we'll have to look over your data to figure it out don't we?
Google: Dude, the person who gets our mail can square root 10 digit numbers in his head. Do we look stupid to you?
Justice: Damn smart ppl think you know everything. You WILL do what I say. I don't care how many millions you make for America. Or how much progress you make. Or what dreams you have for efficient electronic communication. Be happy we even allow you your damn internet. You are not irreplaceable. WE will shut you down. We will make sure that none of your scientists ever have jobs ever again. Welcome to the McCarthy Era II, bitch.
Google: Hah. It's a global marketplace now. Do you think it's hard for us to learn a secondary language? You don't think we can't just set up shop in some other country? Do you know how many phone calls i get from China each day? Oh wait, maybe you do...or maybe you don't cuz I encrypt mine in code you'll ever crack. You're just sore because we've recruited all the best mathematicians from NSA. Frak. At least with us, they don't have to be worried about their math being used to kill innocent people, you warmongering *****. I'll see you in court. I dare you bankrupt me like you did Epic Comics or independent media. I dare you. - TKDWILSON, on 10/20/2007, -0/+4Google is NOT for child porn. I'm sure if they could they would stop all that crap.
Eric Wilson - Chupatumama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4>We need to get the republicans out of office so we can stop this crap!!!
I always need to remind my pot smoking friends that the war on pot doubled the arrests for pot under the Clinton watch and my geek friends that the DMCA was also a Clinton invention (as was arming terrorists in the Balkans). This is not to say that Bush isnt a donkey's ass, its just that the 'other option' isnt much better.
>Basically I'll deserve to be watched if they are indeed watching me,
>because I'm most likely doing something illegal.
>Are you ***** stupid?
I guess after a statement like people are wondering the exact same thing about you.
Why dont you open a book and find a quote by this B.Franklin type you yanks cherish and see what he says about people who are so willing to give away freedoms.
Reading someone write "I'll deserve to be watched" gives you a small glimpse how people can go along with totalitarian idealogies. In other words, you would have made a great nazi follower, never questioning your own guilt. - dasbell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is outrageous... I think we should start a web campaign to support Google.
- ginty, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I can't wait for this administration to be over – and I'm a Republican.
I say F 'em. - berzerk, on 10/20/2007, -0/+3I'm so glad our government is tending to more important matters such as pornography than other things like the war and destroying the constitution.
- zbeast, on 10/20/2007, -0/+3Don't be a meat head and don't be suckered.
there's no child-porn on google and don't let goverment
strong arm type use saving the kids as a banner for taking away your privacy. - uptown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Mary Osako, a spokeswoman for Sunnyvale, California-based Yahoo! Inc., said the company complied with the government inquiry on a ``limited basis,'' and didn't give the U.S. ``any personally identifiable information.''
So what's considered personally identifiable? Is an IP address considered personally identifiable? Say someone was to search for something questionable on Google using the IP address assigned to their PC. That same person then visited a government website using their same IP address, but used it in a way that required registration so that their IP was now tied to a name. Now that person can be identified ... and any searches conducted on Yahoo! can be connected to that person.
That's the problem. - sych0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3goddamn you morons. This has NOTHING TO DO WITH CHILD PORN. Its to keep children from SEEING REGULAR porn. Get it right.
That said, go google :) - guywmustang, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6We need to get the republicans out of office so we can stop this crap!!! With them in control of 2 branches, and soon to be 3, this dictator-like desire of usurping power will continue.
Props to google for not giving in. There is no way this is constitutional. - SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Now, everyone, bring on your unjustified degrading comments against me, I know where I stand."
Ok, here's the thing... I wasn't attacking your support of the administration... I was attacking your lack of knowledge as to how the Internet *actually* works... not how you THINK it works...
Now... let's say this.... we all think Child Pornographers should burn in a very special hell... all religions.. all faiths.. all parties...
HOWEVER - you do NOT need the type of data the government has asked for in order to prosecute Child Pornographers... it's much deeper and more complicated than that... really, I'm not getting holier-than-thou on you....
What the government asked for is not "cool"... and the fact that Y! just gave it up has burned that bridge for me...
The problem lies in the fact that actions like this preclude a much worse scenario... have you ever heard the phrase "It's far easier to get a law voted in than to have it removed" ? And it's not Bush that's the problem... no, really... he's actually probably a pretty nice guy if he were just "another joe"... the problem is the administrations to come... They will inherit this never-before known power and authority... there are no more checks and balances, doesn't this scare you? scares the petunias outta me... - heinouskyle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3STICK IT TO THE MAN, GOOGLE!!!
- jhaven, on 10/20/2007, -1/+3"Eastern european torture camp? You've been watching too many ***** movies."
and you obviously haven't been keeping up with the news lately..... - reallyjustdave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Did anoyne in these comments going on about 'child pornography' actually follow TFL? The whole point is supposed to be about the guv seeing how easy it is for children to be -exposed- to pornography.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with child pornography.
Until you show the basic skills necessary to click on a link (a skill often displayed by monkeys in little cages given a treat after), not to mention the basic reading and comprehension skills to actually parse the article, your opinion means exactly . - AromaKat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Stop the pointless immature arguing guys. This IS a serious situation regarding every one's privacy rights. Even if they DO go after the child porn people, this move will still give the government the right to look into yet another aspect of our lives for whatever reasons. Honestly, I have been real paranoid about google having all this info on us. I saw them as the biggest invasion of personal privacy of all time. Not everyone knows everything google is up to, such as keeping everything you do in database for 35 years. No matter if you delete things etc. google talk, they record all chats, look for keywords to cater better advertising. Google toolbar, record every page you go to to cater better ads. Gmail, same. Why are they offering completely free city-wide Wi-Fi for everyone starting in San Fran? So they can track everything. The reason google is offering so many kick ass programs and services for free is always because it is a way to get to know you better and deliver advertising that suits you to you, thus winning all ad deals from companies and being able to charge more for delivering these ads to exactly the right people. Its genius, yet scary for some. I feel much better about google since this story came about. Knowing they are not willing to just hand out to the big bad government just because they say so says a lot. Point is, if Bush keeps getting his way on these privacy laws, were only one more nut job president away from having total government controlled lock-down of the nation. The thought reminds me a lot of those freaky futuristic movies you see all the time where people live by what the gov tells them to do. I really hope most of you are not as brainwashed by the media and what they tell you as I know some of you are. (Don Wilson)
- Profiler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Google IS the government!
HEIL THE GOOGLEMENT! - SilentBobSC, on 10/20/2007, -3/+5Oh brother, I really didn't want to do this, but pull up your chair, because you're about to get schooled....
Google does cache pages, this helps their tracking of search trends that they aggregate to help sell more ads. However, a much more reliable project for this end would be archive.org... it dates back years...
Anyone who hosts child porn on a website is ALREADY being investigated... If you wanna talk legalities and seedy underworld *****, putting any illegal crap on a website is probably the stupidist thing a person will do, it makes you open to the engines which means Law Enforcement already knows about them and are tracking them down, sadly many of them are outside our borders and those authorities are iffy to cooperate with us... gee, wonder why someone wouldn't want another country pushing them around... The *REAL* threat, few know about but it starts with a U and THAT'S where the sewage is.
Ok, regarding the anti-bush stuff, please put down the Kool-Aid and step back... I voted the guy in, so I'm part to blame for this mess. The biggest difference is some of us are able to think rationally and realize that just because he's the president doesn't mean he's always right... really, take off the blinders...
If you have trouble with any of the words or concepts I've used here, please remove yourself from the gene pool now. - karamba_kid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It seems that every day Bush is in office this country becomes more and more like a police state. :(
- dasbell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah really.
I'd say its pretty relevent when the government sues a company causing them to lose 1.9% on their (admitedly over inflated) share price in one day.
This is an on going story dude. - dude3609, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2mikehillb, stfu and read before you throw a baby fit.
Google just got sued.. Before, stories said that google will put up a fight against the gov.. This submition is different and explains how they just got sued.. - brianes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I noticed this story on CNN as I was cruising past a TV during lunch, and had to rush back to digg to check it out. While I'm not surprised, it does bring a couple of things to mind...rnrn1. The *real* purpose of the 2nd amendment. *ahem*rn2. David Brin's theorizing of a totally transparent society. If we can't stop Govt. snooping, let's make sure we watch them watching us. No secrecy, no shadows. On either side. If unnerving, it's at least a level playing field, as well as preserving -- after a fashion -- the founder's greatest innovation. *Checks and balances.*rnrnOn balance #1 tends to make most who've grown up in our priviledged, protected society somewhat queasy. Those with a broader historical perspective tend to appreciate the wisdom. Jefferson is alleged (I've never seen the actual source quote, but it sounds like something he'd say) to have held that there should be a revolution every twenty years or so, just to clean out the crud and start with a clean sheet of paper. I suspect it also harbors the same potential risks of triggering the mechanism in the Constitution regarding Constitutional Convention(s). It is thought provoking, though.rnrn#2, however, is our best hope. Given current technologies, one-way transparency may be nearly unavoidable without bloodshed. Forcing two-way transparency would at least keep the PTB more or less honest...
- hashkaran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Digg is next on the list.
Opps sorry.. my bad... they don't have to .. cuz they can see us digging...without a court order..
does this make me feel safe "digging" stuff?? - SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@DonWilson
Upon re-reading your comment... I came across this little nugget... these two lines are from the SAME post:
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"They archive websites that 'harbor' child pornography, which could give the government information to close such websites down. It's not about looking at your boring ass life, big brother, or any of that stupid 1984 *****."
"The likelihood that "someone" reading my search queries and *knowing*, let alone caring, what I search for is very, very slim. Basically I'll deserve to be watched if they are indeed watching me, because I'm most likely doing something illegal."
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Jeezus Christ dude! Do you realize how BADLY you contradicted yourself in those two paragraphs? I mean REALLY, did you even READ 1984? Do you realize that it is EXACTLY that type of thinking ( "Basically I'll deserve to be watched if they are indeed watching me" ) that LEADS to the 1984 *****???
I could digress for PARAGRAPHS on this, but I'm just going to let you stew in the fact that your argument nullified itself in the SAME COMMENT...
LMAO and going to bed... - saysaknow, on 10/20/2007, -0/+1Google knows so much information about us and they refuse to give it up. Hell yeah.
- JaggedEdge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1One thing i wouldve never expected from google... Im starting to like the company again... GO GOOGLE!!!!
- GPLed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I live in India. Why should the Us government know what I search?
(Wasn't meant to flame Americans, just flame the Us government.) - SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@karamba - sadly, yes... the truth that noone is talking about and that the "Liberal Media Bastards" aren't talking about is the *fact* that we have quite literally signed away all of our rights in the past several years, be it the Pres, the administration or whoever's actually manipulating this... it is setting up the stage for the government (and I'm not talking Bush, this is long-term) to completely and legally monitor anyone they want for any reason... this is bad.. be you red, blue, yankee, southern, whatever... It's very very very bad
The part about this that really scares me is the fact how much we have allowed ourselves to be SCARED into this... how f*#&ed is THAT? We're a PROUD, STRONG, and FEARLESS nation, but we're scared of a couple of terrorists now? We've been dealing with terrorism since the Crusades and we were never scared, never nervous, and now we ARE?
SB
and we are quite literally being sc - SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Zorn - Right on man!
Note for others: just because we use words like "Neocon" "current administration" "economy" and "independent" doesn't mean we hate our country, quite the opposite, we love it and what it stands for and we are going to fight to keep her truly free. - bacon_skoda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Someone read the COPA: Child Online Protection Act.
It makes it illegal to soliciting for commerical purpose of materials deemed
"harmful to minors" unless goodfaith effort were used to prevent access from children.
This is NOT about child porn.
This is about putting a lock on ANYTHING deemed
"Harmful to Minors"...as defined by "contemporary community standards"...
And Any Adult that won't be harmed but want access would need to be registered period or use credit card access.
ie. If you lived in Kansas somewhere, you may need a credit card to access evolution subjects...stupid...but THAT's why it's struck down by the supreme court.
It's too broad and restrictive. The Supreme Court ruled filters would be enough.
BUSH wants this IN now.
Is this what all you anti-Google want???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Online_Protection_Act - thecrow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Go GOOGLE!
- definiteform, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0silentbobsc is a huge tool. kerry sucks. bush sucks. im a ***** hunter i hope to shoot the big white elephant down.
watch "why we fight" both parties are *****. - shig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Best get in line, get on your knees, and kiss that stasi jackboot like everyone else. You don't want to seem "UnAmerican", do you?
- diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Jeeze, at least Google is fighting for our right to privacy.
- Infekted, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oh man this is getting serious huh? what is this issue really about? is this about the people looking for child porn on search engines or is it about the websites that provide them?
At first people are scared about the privacy over the internet. weather doing legal or illegal.
with this thing going on... if google submit. ***** your privacy! we're all doomed!!! i want to see how many people will join me in jail. im not guilty about the child porn but for sumthing else. Do you really think they'll ignore other illegal things they find off those queries... if you we're found finding info on google how to grow pot or maybe import drugs. would they ignore you? or maybe searching for illegal downloads. naahh... their main point was ONLY for child porn right?... LoL.
if there will be a campaign to support google - count me in. - ByteGuerilla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0C'mon google, you gotta fight the power. The government got owned my Microsoft - show them that wasn't a blip and us 'computer guys' aren't a soft touch.
I'm gonna start making preps to switch everything google-search related over to another service. - TheSenator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The main issue is that google is protecting its users privacy, and they as a private company, have that right to protect their users from government interventon and observation.
- roostersheep, on 01/16/2009, -0/+0To be honest I really don't want to get in to any arguments about why the government are doing this, why google are doing that, but I just thought I'd add: If Google took on the US Government in court and won...that would be absolutely awesome!
- ch1ckster, on 03/04/2009, -0/+0This does not have to do with child porn. It has to do with children searching on the web and coming across porn. Parent's responsibility, not the government's.
- toetag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The Feds claim "they need a random sample".
Well, they sampled 3 out of 4 of [Yahoo, AOL, MSN, Google].
That should be plenty. - AETAaAS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sigh... Google took a blow for the sake of our privacy...
Thanks a lot, Google :) - snapcase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Viva la google. I'm rather sick of hearing about people trying to sue google or whatever the case may be for whatever reason.
- bacon_skoda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The Bush Admin has and current use Tactical/Stragetic words and phrases to wheel the fishes in. You are falling into this trap.
Global Warming -> Climate Change
Release of Privacy -> Patriot Act.
Nothing -> Drug Discount card.
Privatizing SS -> Personalising SS.
Wild Goose Chase -> WMD
Your mind is filling in the words and meaning that isn't in the Child Online Protection Act. - GhostFreeman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You know the internet must be pissed when this article gets reposted and dugg eight times straight.
ENJOY YOUR FASCISM! - SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"That's it. You just lost the arguement right there:"
??? How does that loose the argument ?? That was a completely apt statement and quite on-target... Crack a history book, read up on fascism (really, this isn't me trying to sensationalize) and read how a fascist state is established... not all Nazi's started as Nazi's... they were poor, working class germans that were quite literally socially brainwashed into doing another's will... now A.H.'s will was particularly f*#&ed up... but that doesn't mean a fascist state can't be established under a "pretty" face....
There are times when certain trends become evident, and it is the citizen's responsibility to try to understand what is going on around them and not to follow blindly.
SB - reallyjustdave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hmm, looks like digg interptreted that as an HTML tag. To rephrase, your opinion means dick.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If I was google, I would stop logging!
- DewayneSmith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Child porn? That's kinda sick...
But Google has a right to reserve their search queries and not display them to the Bush Administration...
That, and if you don't want to look at porn turn on the safe search filters... - niggs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Information of the day:
In Sweden an IP-address is considered personal information and can't be stored without the approval from the user.
Anyway, GOOGLE STAND YOUR GROUND, WE'RE BEHIND YOU A 100%! -
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