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- nirav72, on 08/19/2008, -0/+13I assume push email is nice because it only forces the phone to check and sync email/calendar/contacts when a notification arrives that an new update is available on the server. Hence, by not constantly polling the server every few minutes it would preserve battery charge. The microsoft win mobile phones receive a notification via a special sms from exchange server that triggers activesync to pull down the new email/calendar item.
Also you would get a instant notication of an email the minute arrives in your inbox on the server. I guess to some people it matters for real time communication. Just like the same experience on your desktop using outlook. - unusualbob, on 08/18/2008, -0/+11ya, i already read that comment on the original page...
- geoken, on 08/19/2008, -3/+14Can someone explain the benefits of push email to me.
I always hear it touted as a deal-breaking feature, but never understood why. Is mobile outlook not able to do an auto-send/receive every couple of minutes? Or is it that the 'couple of minutes' between send/receive cycles is too long for some users? Or is it something different all-together? - AmazingAndrex, on 08/19/2008, -0/+8Some other/alternative bits from TmoNews[1]...
-Touch screen
-Full Qwerty keyboard
-3G/ WiFi
-Full HTML internet capabilities
-Easy access to all Google applications (Gmail, Gtalk, search)
-Maps
-Street view
-YouTube
-Phone
-IM/Text
-Email
-Camera 3.0mp; no flash
-Video (playback only, no recording)
-Music player & 1GB memory card pre-loaded
-Applications, all available in Google marketplace (icon on the homescreen)
There seems to be some conflict between this article and some others that hit today. Some are claiming an October 13th release, while this one seems sure of a Thanksgiving-ish release. In addition, the T-Mobile App Store, while plausible, doesn't match the fact we saw an icon for "Market" back at Google's I/O Android presentation[2]. And I don't know if the "Google Ad Software Preinstalled" rumor holds much water, considering it hasn't been in any SDKs, presentations, or talked about from Google at all yet. Something like this would need as big a "cusioning" window as possible to get people used to the idea, and isn't the kind of thing to be sprung a month or two before launch. Google has also already said they plan to make their money through their built-in applications like GMail and the search widget, not something that flashes pop-ups on the home screen.
I just thought diggers would want to know the range of rumors coming out right now, to get the clearest picture.
All this having been said, the Android SDK 0.9 Beta is really, *really* good. Very smooth, responsive and polished. The only thing lacking is a few of Google's applications like IM and YouTube, but I'm sure they're being tuned up for the final release. All I can really recommend is that anybody interested in Android download the SDK for themselves[3], or check out Gizmodo's video tour[4].
[1] http://tinyurl.com/5skywx
[2] (green circle) http://tinyurl.com/56qkvu
[3] http://tinyurl.com/2y8gq4
[4] http://tinyurl.com/6kbrpt - phoomp, on 08/19/2008, -0/+7If the ads are delivered as unobtrusively as they are in other Google products, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't bother me at all. Most of the time, I'm not even aware that Google delivers ads.
- inactive, on 12/07/2008, -7/+12I prefer using gmail anyway, but having to deal with ads on my cell would be pretty ***** annoying, regardless of the cheaper sale price.
- phoenixankit, on 08/19/2008, -1/+5Sad attempt at the meme. Try harder kid.
- meghalc, on 08/19/2008, -2/+6I just hope the data plans stay at $19.99, the T-Mobile unlimited price plan.
- EtherGnat, on 08/19/2008, -0/+4"having to deal with ads on my cell would be pretty ***** annoying"
You have to opt in for the ads. If you want to save money you can, otherwise it operates like any other phone. I don't see what the problem is. - EtherGnat, on 08/19/2008, -0/+4@JQP123
I'm not sure it's so hard to have unobtrusive ads. Privacy issues aside, I'd gladly take a text ad at the bottom of a text message rather than paying the phone companies obscene rates, for example. When searching for nearby restaurants I wouldn't mind if the first result was a clearly marked paid ad if it gets me GPS services for free.
I'll reserve judgment until I've actually seen it, but to date Google has been the master of low key advertising. - phoenixankit, on 08/19/2008, -0/+3Either you're ignorant, or you just didn't read. This IS an option for buying the phone without the ads. It'll be a bit expensive that's all.
Or rather, the one with the ads would be cheaper, the normal one would have the original cost. - Sushubh, on 08/19/2008, -0/+3if your business depends upon email, you had like to receive them instanteneously.
- JQP123, on 08/19/2008, -0/+3"If the ads are delivered as unobtrusively as they are in other Google products,..."
I don't see how this is possible due to the limited screen size. - bubba9999, on 08/19/2008, -0/+3The concerns about Exchange and Gmail are pretty pointless. It's an open platform, people. If it's not included, someone, maybe you, can put it on there.
Assuming they let you have access to the good SDK, that is. That still ticks me off, Google. - AmazingAndrex, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2It'll be on there, one way or another I'm sure.
- alibanana, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2I agree. Exchange support on the iPhone 3G really sealed the deal for me. So much easier to keep everything synced together.
- ThirdPrize, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2It is very similar to the TV model where you get lots of free TV programmes and in return you watch lots of adverts. Or not as the case may be.
- EtherGnat, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2@jqp123
Of course other phones could do the same. Phones are required by law to be aware of their location for e911 purposes, so it's just a software issue.
I suspect nobody has done it to date because:
1) Nobody has the advertising ties that Google has; and
2) The suspect (probably correctly) that there will be a great deal of resistance to ads on phones.
We'll have to see what kind of deal Google makes with people and how many people take it to be sure. - ncc1701, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2i know it's hard to believe, but not everybody needs to know immediately when they receive email. even when i'm at work, i ignore that "new mail" icon and only glance at my messages once every few hours.
push email is definitely not "the only way."
that said, it would be good if all phones supported both push email and standard imap. - Aitese, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2I have "push" email on my N95...you don't have to wait for android. Not really sure how it works as to set it up you have to actually set the phone to poll for changes to the IMAP server every 15 minutes...but on the N95 it ignores the 15 min limit and I get emails instantly. Doing my own tests I get them on the phone before they actually show up on the web!
- JQP123, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2"Or not as the case may be."
We'll place your call in just a moment but first, a few words from our sponsors.
NOT!!! - eldridgea, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2http://digg.com/software/Free_push_support_for_Gma ...
This combined with IMAP is about the same as push - for free! - bubba9999, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2That's not just a Google feature. Any newer phone has the same capability.
- JQP123, on 08/19/2008, -1/+3Because "open source" is better just due to the label?
No. Go back and try again.
From the consumer's viewpoint, it doesn't matter if it's called "open source" or not, it still looks heavy handed and restricted. - DickyT83, on 08/19/2008, -1/+3Being a T-Mobile customer I must say I'm rather excited to get this phone, not to mention not having to pay the ***** ETF like many did for the iPhone.
- tnoy, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2The Android platform has already been made to boot on a couple different HTC phones. Once the SDK is finished, it wont be long before my Tilt can be a "Google Phone"
- jotate, on 08/19/2008, -3/+5Need to get that Exchange sync in there. Makes it hard to justify getting as a dual purpose personal and business phone without that.
- JQP123, on 08/19/2008, -1/+3I suspected as much all along but I still can't believe they're really going through with this. If true, this will become a textbook example of a business model pushed too far.
- meghalc, on 08/19/2008, -1/+2LOL Push Gmail for Iphone!
Kinda made me laugh. - jdubdub, on 08/19/2008, -1/+2IMAP already has push e-mail functionality.
- EtherGnat, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1"Or is it something different all-together?"
Receiving messages promptly is a big deal for some people, but Exchange support is about more than just push e-mail. Full Exchange support synchronizes calendar, contacts, tasks etc.. - EtherGnat, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1"Google Can't be so restrictive. "
It won't be. Exchange support is planned but probably not ready at launch. The app store will be available but I'm almost certain it won't be the only place you can get applications. - gregMF, on 08/19/2008, -1/+2i hate apple fanboys but you just sound like a straight up fag
- supermanred, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1No. It won't. Sounds like a ***** iPhone knock off at this point. It will crash more frequently than XP.
- slapded, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1whats wrong with gmail. This article kinda sucked.
- snached, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1You are using Internet Explorer aren't you...
If you are using Firefox, then what you said makes you a 12 year old troll. - Beylan, on 08/19/2008, -1/+2T-mobile? Bleh
- ThirdPrize, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1A lot of the sexy iPhone features are provided by Google. I wonder how having a competing phone platform will effect Google and Apples relationship?
- bbliss17, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1No flash and no video recording, just playback? Is this 2000?
- mr_ziy, on 01/15/2009, -0/+1Pssh, I hope it gets cheaper!
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1google is taking the microsoft approach in that they don't care what camp you're from, you are a potential customer..hence office for OSX. This is precisely what has held apple back in all arenas except the portable music players
- kragil, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1I guess the phone will be similar to my Diamond. So running Android on it should'nt be a problem! Yeah baby!
- mynameistux, on 08/19/2008, -1/+1***** the riaa
- JQP123, on 08/19/2008, -1/+1Name one other phone that has the ability to link your curent location with an accumulated personal profile and deliver targeted ads. If other phones could do this, Google wouldn't be doing it.
- montagecomms, on 08/19/2008, -1/+1I don't think iPhone will get too worried at this stage?!
- jbrevik, on 08/19/2008, -1/+1The only thing that Im worried about is that t-mobile may push the development of the HTC Dream to quickly to compete with the iphone which could result in many problems for the early adopters of the phone.
- magneteye, on 08/19/2008, -1/+1So it does almost everything the iPhone already does? So far I really don't see anything groundbreaking with the Android. Can someone point out what's better about it? I am on the fence here on my next phone purchase. iPhone still looks like a winner to me.
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