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- libertao, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Hmmm, I'd never heard of EasyDownloadCenter.com and TheDownloadPlace.com before, I think I'll head over there now.
Uh oh, looks like Digg is yet another accomplice now... - kazzyD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14If the automated system does something like this, then I agree with you. But if accusations are true in this case, it's quite different. Google (that is, Google employees, not some automated system) allegedly set up the site owners with keywords like "bootleg movie download," "pirated," and "download harry potter movie," which gave the sites a nice traffic boost. And apparently Google offered them advertising credit so they didn't need credit cards to pay the usual fees:
http://www.computers.net/2007/02/the_google_scan.html - Trention, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15I think the bigger problem is that Google supposedly knew that these guys were engaged in piracy of some sort, but kept doing business with them anyway.
- JakeX, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19So now they want to have Google CENSOR itself because keywords that generate a LOT of traffic to these websites 'made money' ?
I thought Google was anti-censorship? After that whole China incident awhile back... - DarkXanthos, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10wtf? So you're upset because you didn't need to go to /. to read this. I personally kinda like having most of my news in one place.
- fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5How about we just admit that Google is really Gevil (tm), and get on with it.
- alteratti, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I think this is a marketing stunt by Google. Google stock soars another $50
- Kickboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If the accusations are true, thats kind of disappointing to me. However, the article merely mentions "Legal filings" that show a connection between Google and these websites. That's a very vague statement.
I don't see any foul play at this point. Google was handling these websites just as it does every other high traffic website (noted in the last paragraph of the article). - cwshea, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Google helped me find TPB
- flaterates, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I saw a Walmart add on Pirate Bay, and immediately deleted all my running torrents, and went to my nearest Walmart and bought legal copies. Not really.
- D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Am I the only one that has never heard of either of those sites?
- leomyhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2A friend of piracy is a friend of mine
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1as much as google may be a cool company (and i think it is, too), don't be so blind. even though they may be cool, you still need to question everything they do.
- aju203, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If a court determines the activity of these sites is illegal, then, and only then, Google should put an end to this "account". So goes the story of YouTube, and imminently, Tivo. This event, however, may mark the beginning of Big media's defensive strategy against the provisions New media has provided for such "illegal activity"(quoted objectively). It may also be a sign that Big media has finally developed a promising strategy for profitable integration of New Media. It may simply be the innocent efforts of Big media to right the injustice pressed upon it by a bandit technology. The music industry had the floor pulled out from underneath it, and was forced to take similar action, finding a permanent home on to this new platforms with itunes and the like.
This issue over BitTorrent is merely the beginning of the motion picture and television industry turning the same enemy into an irreplaceable business partner.
Like I said before, Google should take no action until our courts have decided they must. But I must make one point before I continue.
If for a second you can imagine that Google ends these accounts, and allows Big media to dictate their sovereign action, then I must suspect no limit to Big media's ability to eradicate other sensitive and financially detrimental materials. As Big media begins to settle itself comfortably on this new platform, this potential influence of Google may one day move into subversive retooling of Google's search algorithms to bury company data, statistics and reports even deeper than they are today. However, I only manufacture such conspiracy to promote a healthy suspicion of future Big media and Google collusion.
This conflict seems inevitable, but how these future events will unfold is for the future to determine. We can see a glimpse of it in the success of TV on itunes, and the recent move to provide shows with required-view ads, on networks websites. I think if we can all promote the use of New media for Big media content, then we can hurry up and end this conflict.
If I can, I would like to give you an article by Esther Dyson that examines a conflict not between Big media and Google, but rather Google + Big advertising and you.
Will you let Google monitor what you do? Are you ready for a "kinder gentler 'Big Brother'"? :
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Dyson/?p=22
(October 2nd, 2006 “Google - beyond the interview” -Posted by Esther Dyson @ 11:01 am) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Cool sites. thanks :)
this will be a bumper month for them ! - Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1google is only funding them
and that would intern cause an lawsuit - juliocgrajales, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1here, here
- AlfaWolph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Google is flush with cash they are just looking for some easy money. Obviously Google can't control the content of the sites that use their advertising network.
- oldman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yes! Let's make it illegal to sell anything to pirates! Let 'em die (ARRRGH!). Oh and by the by let's get all American companies out of any country whose politics we disagree with too. Oh can we stop the record / film companies from selling to people we don't like? I think we may be on to something here
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That is a joke, right? Do you realize how TINY a percentage of overall internet users that pirate anything?
- NinjaButterfly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Trention
You're absolutely right, look at websites like MegaUpload.com (alexa's 12th most popular site in the world http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=megaupload.com ) with millions of downloaders per day... A simple google blogsearch (even using their own search engine) will bring up thousands of Warez, Copyrighted Movies, Copyrighted Music, and porn results that refer people directly to the Google sponsored download site heavily monetized by Adsense ads.... Most of them hiding their download link somewhere within the hapless advertisers links!
MegaUpload is like a modern Napster except they actually host the copyrighted material.
They blatantly violate Google Adsense's terms of service but I'm sure GOOG is making plenty of money off this and turning a blind eye. How can they not know about it?? Megaupload is one of the worst offenders and according to alexa it's one of the top 15 websites on the net! That's a huge amount of adsense revenue! - robohoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I doubt google even cares about that. :|
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Jake...Google already does "censor" itslef (as you idiotically call it) by not allowing their ads on other types of sites.
shadus...your notion of the future of TV, music, etc. is stupid. Please realize hat. You will NEVEr be able to just take music for free. Only a ***** idiot thinks that is a good business plan. - juliocgrajales, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Really Interesting
http://digg.com/music/RIAA_and_MPAA_merge_to_form_MAFIAA
and loving web 2.0 with the better worded links and roomed all that crap (%#$^//www.af15$5.fcom/akjdlfjla124) lol - aristoworks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I never see the major media companies advertising via google ads anyways... so why should google give a damn what they think? We're not talking Yahoo whom DOES have an interest in music companies / movie companies. Those sites get traffic - why not promote to them. Hate the player.. not the game...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If you think that George Carlin said any of these things, pleae, come to my house for a game of winner take all poker.
- LavaHot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Google is a force of nature, it doesn't care who benefits from AdSense.
- SpeedoBurrito, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yep, sorry.
- therealrico, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It really doesn't seem like google did anything wrong, and the money generated certainly is small potatos in comparison to what google does overall.
- cwshea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Google helped me find TPB.
- everfresh59, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3We might think that Google was engaged in piracy, but I truly believe that if they hadn't done these things, the internet would be no where near where it is today.....Piracy fuels the internet, it's the main reason why the internet keeps growing......800 million users worldwide / Billions of people on the planet.
- infoshowzen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Google is a huge company. The AdSense "optimization" team doesn't know or talk to the AdWords, Content Filtering, Search, or even the AdSense Development teams. Their job is to help their publishers (and by extension, Google) make more money on relevant keyword text ad placements - not decide on moral, legal, or ethical judgements on the content itself. Last I checked, the stuff on these so-called pirate sites are just words and HTML code.
Google already bans tobacco and sexual content from the AdSense program, maybe they'll do this with download sites too. I hope not. The whole idea that these are "pirate sites" that deserve no credit as viable traffic generators for Google (or any other ad network) goes againts the fundamental value in the freedom of information that the web was founded, and continues to, thrive on. - juliocgrajales, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1interesting these big media are owned by top by News Corp., Viacom, Sony, NBC Universal, Time Warner, and Disney, is Google getting so powerful that the top media needs to be scared... interesting that all the newspapers most of the online media (not including blogs and most people who dislike big media) is owned by News Corp., Viacom, Sony, NBC Universal, Time Warner, and Disney, how interesting and how quick the webpages have turned... Google is the only company really doing everything different and more moral, ethical, fair, balanced, unbiased than any of those big medias, from the benefits it provides its employees to doing an untradional ipo offering so more of the real public not the bigwigs from big corporations, to buying upstarts that were going out of business just to keep the market alive, to donating to many opensource groups to doing so much good in the world (it's not even funny) but whoopie ***** do big media who has been in control for too ***** long wants to squelch the voice of the people, well good luck google, I'm not going to give up on you and sensitive *****
- enjourni, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Once again the piracy hounds have absolutely no clue. It's not google's responsiblity to police the internet. Google provides the same services to anyone who signs up for Adwords, and that's the way it should be.
- roynencore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Movie and Music industry should respect search engine companies service provide and the power they have on the web. The search engine companies have in their power to remove all reference to their web sites and any promotion being advertised. Effectively removing them from the web, most people get to their web sites through these search engines. A lot people don’t enter the url address to get to their sites. Media companies once again provide information where to get pirated products which just promoted those sites for FREE.
- clintology, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Trention: exactly
- shadus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Yes google is a friend of piracy because its easier to accuse someone else of having a problem and forcing them to fix a problem than it is to realize your draconian practices are what cause piracy in the first place.
- donkayoteSA, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Wouldn't this be like going after a grocery store cause a criminal bought food there?e
- TBagwell, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2^^^^^ hates linux... loves google.... doesn't think for self
anybody who is against criticizing google is a 'tard - undersky, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4Buried for posting anything anti-google.
- skarbreeze, on 10/12/2007, -15/+1Dugg down as reposted Slashdot content.
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