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- etandrib, on 10/11/2007, -0/+79This is good news! I would gladly jump at the chance to allow someone other than Comcast or ATT (my only options for internet) to compete for my money each month…
- mattvogt, on 10/11/2007, -1/+71Imagine other options. AT&T/NSA owning it? *cold shiver*
- Bossman1086, on 10/11/2007, -2/+49Man, I really hope the FCC approves Google's terms.
- SD70MACMAN, on 10/11/2007, -1/+40"Instead, telecoms would like to see the FCC take a hands-off approach similar to the one it has taken with cable and DSL when it comes to the 700MHz spectrum."
Yeah, that has gotten the consumer to really great places. Slow internet, terrible service, lack of choices, and a wonderful lack of innovation. Thanks telcos! I definitely trust you to regulate yourselves! *****. - craftyguy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+41I guess the FCC got it right, charging $4.6 billion for rights to use radiation at a certain frequency. Go capitalism.
- runner108, on 10/11/2007, -0/+33I felt uneducated reading this.. *goes off to learn*
- ThatsUnpossible, on 10/11/2007, -1/+29This makes perfect sense for Google. They have enough dark fiber, if they get this spectrum allotment, they could provide free wireless internet across the nation, meaning more eyeballs for Google ads.
- CDoug03, on 10/11/2007, -8/+32Google is probably worse for privacy than NSA, because you know that the engineers at Google are competent.
- etandrib, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21What type of wireless options would be available using this spectrum? WiMax? Anything else? Ok, off to wikipedia to answer my own question.
- wvaughan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+22Google's proposed terms would spawn a new wave of innovation. Even if they don't win the bid, I hope the FCC adopts their rules.
- Kardall, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19So my question is, is this only in the States? Can this be carried across the border to Canada? Would this FCC be acknowledged by the CRTC?
If anyone needs competition, it is Canada. What we need is competition for Internet AND Mobility. We have 3 main companies across the entirety of Canada. Yes there are other smaller companies like Fido (but was recently purchased by Rogers, one of the big 3), but there isn't the wide area kind of competition. Most of the big 3 are in designated sectors of Canada. Telus is mainly BC, Alberta, then you have Rogers and Bell in Ontario -> eastward. Alliant is for the far far eastern provinces in the maritimes, Sasktel is a Government owned and operated company in Saskatchewan, and MTS is Manitoba's Government company.
With all this going on, each company basically leases space on towers, to try to spread and offer services, but for the most part, no one beats the other in their respective zones. - NinjaBoy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18I just got a picture of an NSA agent using the windows search to look though records.
- agrabob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13I thnk everyone agrees with you, except the companies with competing arguments to Google. IE- Verison, Comcast, ATT, etc
- TheG2, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15You have no idea just how stupid that comment was.
- jdoc, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15YESSSS FREE INTERNET! It's like 1999, JUNO all over again!
- lieutenantmudd, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15the NSA has more math PhDs than any organization in the world
- deadbaby, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Just about anything and everything. They could adapt any existing wifi technology to work in the 700mhz spectrum. UMTS sounds like the most practical protocol right now.
- amrush4th, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12All I really want is a player that is not currently in the internet access game to win. We need competition if the USA is not to fall even further behind as compared to many other places in the world.
- gotkarma, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15Dude you can't "build" a spectrum.
- sv650touring, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11some PhD's maybe, but the dude said MATH PhD
- stupergenius, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12Math PhD....systems engineer....not seeing the connection here.
- tjasond, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10If you go on to read the Verizon blog linked from the article here:
http://policyblog.verizon.com/PolicyBlog/Blogs/policyblog/LinkHoewing9/330/Time-for-Some-Facts-on-700Mhz.aspx
You'll witness some great FUD:
"It sure seems to me to be a throw back to the “old political spectrum deals” of the past that we got away from in moving to open, competitive bidding"
So how about instead of arbitrarily handing off a finite resource (spectrum) with no regulation or stipulation whatsoever by selling it to the highest bidder, we do something that is in the general interest of the citizens and set up some ground rules (like what Eric Schmidt has suggested)? We already know how far behind the US is in broadband (despite what the FCC would have us believe) and we're quite familiar with the perverse lock in tactics employed by cell companies everywhere (Verizon arguably being one of the worst). So why can't we just state up front, there will be open access and open compatibility, while the cost of providing access infrastructure will be sold at wholesale? Why? Because it pisses in their (read: Telcos/Cablecos) cheerios. Furthermore, the audacity of Verizon to say anything on this matter in light of the government-subsidized-but-yet-to-be-delivered FIOS is ridiculous and incompetent. - rauz, on 10/11/2007, -9/+18I thought someone had built a very fast ZX Spectrum, disappointment.
- drjekelmrhyde, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Google needs Microsoft maybe and even Yahoo on this one cause going up against the telco and cableco lobbys is huge
// see what happen with net neutrality - kindrobot, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10"Incumbent wireless providers like Verizon have been critical of calls for an open network."
awww...isn't that cute? - tnoy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I'm going to go ahead and assume you're not one of the few that will ever get a PhD.
- Ragzouken, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Significant computer; learn it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum
- vdxc, on 09/29/2008, -0/+8Google is technically already an ISP, although only for Mountain View. See https://wifi.google.com/
- dillibob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8those bastards
- blaaguuu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Would they be "different"? Probably... How much better they would be remains to be seen.
- speedyrev, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Anybody else wish they had another choice for broadband besides the one their stuck with?
- dillona, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I'd rather have it used for ads than given to the government.
- gfnw, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that at first. :P
- GreyICE, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9Buried and blocked. We don't really need people this stupid and elitist on digg.
- dillibob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5thats next on the list
- verge, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5The lower the frequency, better the penetration through obstacles. Compare your 900Mhz old wireless phone with new 5Ghz. All being equal, your 900Mhz will fare much better through obstacles and is independent of whether connection is half or full duplex.
- MatthewBlack, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8In fairness, nowadays so many people omit the two dots it could be considered correct - English is a constantly evolving, changing language, after all. If you understood the meaning fine, then the language has served its purpose. Also, maybe the poster doesn't know how to access them on a standard keyboard.
Although I often put them in, I think 'live and let live' on this sort of issue is probably a good idea. - jokerthief, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7All Google needs now is an army. They should buy out Blackwater.
- dillibob, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6u do realize that u have to thank microsoft for most of the things you use on your computer?
- Stratochief66, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5You need to read up on anti-trust; as long as they don't abuse their situation then they won't be considered anti-trust. I would find it very funny if Google ever got hit with an anti-trust case in a market where there are government enforced local monopolies or nearly as bad duopolies like ATT and Comcast.
- stalefries, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Did you fail your government class?
- DD00, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Anyone have a good site they can recommend or a wiki page about spectrums to read up on?
- spiffyfitz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I remember using a dialhook app to get the encrypted username and password that the Juno app dialed out with... that way I could dial in and use the internet without that big-assed bar at the top of my screen. *sigh* those were the days.
- verge, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5And now we know... the rest of the story. Remember dark fiber? Refresher here
http://news.com.com/Google+wants+dark+fiber/2100-1034_3-5537392.html - dstz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"Instead, telecoms would like to see the FCC take a hands-off approach similar to the one it has taken with cable and DSL when it comes to the 700MHz spectrum."
If that happens, I feel confident that my backward ass country will still have, in ten or fifty years from now just like today, tenfold better Internet experience than the US does. - MikeCerm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3If the 2.4 GHz band wasn't open, we wouldn't have cordless phones or Wi-Fi. It's crowded, but a lot of things can coexist there fine. The FCC shouldn't be giving a monopoly to the highest bidder, they should let everyone have access to the 700 MHz band, and enforce fairness and interoperability.
- VeganG, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5You're joking, but English really may look like that in a hundred years. Legal documents, Capitol Hill, the works. That's the way it goes; a few hundred hundred years can make a language almost completely new. Hell, we don't even talk the same way we did 10 years ago.
- Neiby, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Ooh...I had a ZX80 and ZX81, but I never had one of these babies! That would have rocked.
- nickstr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3this would go into effect after Feb 2009 when analog TV is shut down as 700 MHz is currently UHF TV channels 60-69 for whoever wins the bid for that spectrum whether it be Google or someone else
- drzeus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The easy circumvention was probably part of the reason why free ad-supported Internet failed (besides the fact that the ads weren't all that good). I remember doing the exact same thing and thinking I was clever.
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