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- JayKeaton, on 04/14/2008, -1/+11We have to join the website to read the article?!? Who the hell even Dugg this *****?
- Spuby, on 04/14/2008, -1/+9here's the link if you want to see what this actually does: http://www.salesforce.com/products/google/apps/
- 1807, on 04/14/2008, -1/+7I think it's interesting how a simple verb choice (fights) vs. what it truly is (competes for consumer dollars), people just buy into the hype. One thing I've learned is that there's different strokes for different folks and one mans trash is another man's treasure.
- manderbruin, on 04/14/2008, -3/+9i HATE Salesforce. Having all your office contact and sales information only online is incredibly inefficient. Plus the UI is atrocious.
- danjal, on 04/14/2008, -5/+10Its not microsoft thats stopping you but the company who manufacture for not releasing a vista compaitible driver.
- ha1f, on 04/14/2008, -3/+8Printer support is better in Vista than in Linux... So...
Where were you going with that one? - 1807, on 04/14/2008, -5/+10hey numb nuts, I bought an HP printer 2 years ago that still works on Vista...got any more thoughts wonder boy?
- 4DFX, on 04/14/2008, -9/+13I don't think Google ever really planned to take on Microsoft.
...But then came an idiot called Ballmer, saying how he's gonna '***** kill Google'.
Serves him right. - yournamehere, on 04/14/2008, -1/+5Explain to me how a business model dependent on connection to the internet is viable for a business? So if the internet goes down where you work there goes all your office production. This isn't something big business is going to buy into and that's where MS Office makes their money. At most it's people at home. People at home already have options like OpenOffice.
I'm not seeing a new threat here. - ha1f, on 04/14/2008, -0/+3Yes, only HP manufactures printers...
Jesus, Linux users just keep getting brighter and brighter.
/me tries to remember back to the good ol' days before retarded teenagers found out they could run ubuntu on their mom's computer... - inactive, on 04/14/2008, -3/+6The people who think its neat that Google and another big company are teaming up on Microsoft because it somehow indicates that Microsoft is circling the drain of irrelevancy...
Call it a spiritual win, the facts don't matter. - electricmba, on 04/14/2008, -0/+3There's an offline and mobile solution dolt.
If shared and online is inefficient, is disconnected and offline efficient? - Stonekeeper, on 04/14/2008, -1/+4That argument doesn't stop people bitching about hardware support for Linux. Deal with it.
- InvaderDem, on 04/14/2008, -4/+7Sorry buddy - all three of my printers were instantly recognized by Vista.
- yournamehere, on 04/14/2008, -3/+5go back to bosnia
- Biznaka, on 04/15/2008, -0/+2I work for Salesforce, and this is a huge step in the right direction. We want everything to exist online, with or without Google we will make this happen. However Google is in the right place at the right time, we can use their Google Apps to better our work processes of integrating everything online.
By the way to all the people that say the UI sucks in Salesforce, learn that you can easily CUSTOMIZE your app, that's what it's for! We allow customization of all of our software and the way it works! So please, don't bitch when you don't need to. I really didn't expect this from Diggers who are 80% programmers, bwhahaha. - jasz, on 04/14/2008, -1/+3Perhaps because you should always be connected... either via cellphone/iphone/blackberry etc... or using a regular computer... most of the time in any office environment you WILL be connected...
- yournamehere, on 04/15/2008, -0/+1Messengers, web browsers, online games are all passive.. voip, office for exchanging documents and such, email aren't. You need documents in business at a moments notice...Messengers, web browsers, online games - not so much.
- MrViklund, on 04/14/2008, -0/+1Why?
- boredaghast, on 04/14/2008, -1/+2As a reluctant Salesforce administrator and user, and an avid Google Apps administrator and user, I need to say ***** yes. Salesforce sucks, but extending it helps. Now my boss can continue to use Salesforce calendar and quit nagging me to use Salesforce, because my Google Calendar syncs up. I read this article on Digg on the way into work and within 20 minutes after getting here had installed all modules into Salesforce and they work great.
- warchildbosnia, on 04/14/2008, -8/+9I don't blame Google for that. Linux all the way!
- counterplex, on 04/14/2008, -1/+2Finish Him!
- inactive, on 04/14/2008, -2/+3OR..
Just go online and get the new driver and then you dont have to be a complete ***** RETARD like YOU ! - theaceoffire, on 04/14/2008, -1/+2Link goes here: http://www.malemuse.com/index.php?option=com_conte ...
- philhatesyou, on 04/14/2008, -1/+2Not everyone has an Internet connection as ***** as cable modem or DSL. T1s might be slow, but the phone companies are obligated to respond to T1 problems within a certain amount of time. This isn't the problem you think it is.
- habenneas, on 04/15/2008, -0/+1LynxCache mirror: http://www.lynxcache.org/usr/1/Google_and_Salesfor ...
- Firehed, on 04/14/2008, -1/+2Hate to tell you, but SalesForce has some pretty damn big customers. Software As A Service exists in a Big Way in the business world - just typically not for apps that would otherwise be desktop tools (Word, etc). At my day job, it's not Word I have open all day long, it's SalesForce (and I'm seriously considering setting up an account for my freelance work). As for email - maybe we have something hideously misconfigured, but our Exchange server causes far more problems than Gmail has ever given me just in terms of reliability, and I've wasted plenty of time trying to do things in outlook that take about a second in the Gmail interface.
And that's only half of it. A lot of the company has a Blackberry (constant internet connectivity), we use various desktop-sharing tools to demo our product (requires connectivity on both ends), etc, etc. Granted we're in the web industry, but so are plenty of other companies. - habenneas, on 04/15/2008, -0/+1LynxCache mirror: http://www.lynxcache.org/usr/1/Google_and_Salesfor ...
- kingsleyj, on 04/14/2008, -1/+2What big business has such flaky internet connectivity? Besides, both salesforce.com & Google offer offline & mobile access, if you're into that sort of thing. Cracking entrenched mindsets in the large enterprise market is a challenge, but let's not diminish it to anything as simple as internet connectivity.
Disclosure: I work for salesforce.com. - habenneas, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1Text-only mirror: http://www.lynxcache.org/usr/1/Google_and_Salesfor ...
- kingsleyj, on 04/14/2008, -0/+1Here's a link to the announcement on the official salesforce.com blog, now that the NYT link has lapsed: http://blogs.salesforce.com/blogs/2008/04/announci ... .
- habenneas, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1LynxCache mirror: http://www.lynxcache.org/usr/1/Google_and_Salesfor ...
- habenneas, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1Text-only mirror: http://www.lynxcache.org/usr/1/Google_and_Salesfor ...
- yournamehere, on 04/14/2008, -1/+1it doesn't have to be down from the outside line itself. there are times where internet access is cut off within corporate for many reasons.
- uptown, on 04/14/2008, -1/+1....which is why Google will probably provide them with a Gears-enabled solution.
- kmohr25, on 04/14/2008, -0/+0Did anyone else notice that the Google Talk edition used within the Salesforce demo had a "Call" button? None of the web editions of Google Talk have a call feature included with them. As I am not a Salesforce member, can someone confirm that this feature is available and works? Thanks.
- yournamehere, on 04/14/2008, -1/+1You should always be connected and for the most time you would be however in business I don't think you want to risk having any amount of time where your staff cant reach their documents... just in case. Because everyone knows the one time you really need to open a document is when you really won't be able to get to it.
- yournamehere, on 04/14/2008, -1/+1I wasn't attempting to diminish it. I was simply pointing out one of the inherent issues I could see as being raised against it from a practical standpoint vs having the application installed locally.
Isn't what we're really talking about here is the return of the 'dumb terminal'? Having that type of infrastructure relies on many interconnecting technologies where as having an app installed locally doesn't. It just seems like far less could go wrong with locally installed apps.
Like I said, if its for personal use I can see it as a great thing but for business there just seems to be more points of failure to be concerned with.
Disclosure: I don't work for either side of this business coin and have only productivity to gain in either case. - inactive, on 04/14/2008, -1/+1Im sure Microsoft is looking and yahoo trying to put up a fight (for no ***** reason than propaganda and insecurities it's board has) and thinking HOW CUTE!
Have the stockholders lynched the board members yet ? Because even IF yahoo somehow fights off MS from taking over, they will not get as sweet a deal and the stockholder will have a less valuable stock. This of course leads to a class action lawsuit against yahoo! - HanSM712, on 12/03/2008, -0/+0I think the whole idea of having everything online can both be a scary issue while being a good thing. Firstly, you would have everything centrally located in one location online by paying a small fee. This avoids the HUGE cost of implementing Microsoft into a business type setting. Anyways, the whole security issue relies on the measures the company is taking for their customers.
- gtek, on 04/15/2008, -0/+0I wrote something similar on this topic.
http://www.popmarketingonline.com/2008/04/whats-ne ... - Derivatives, on 04/14/2008, -0/+0Googles quarterly report is coming out tomorrow, here is a good story detailing this exact topic. http://www.directcreditonline.com/yahoo-partner-go ...
- vincentweber, on 04/14/2008, -0/+0Take one look at the very laptop you read this post from. What is it? A communications device. How does it communicate?: internet!
Messengers, web browsers, online games, voip, office for exchanging documents and such, email, etc, etc.
How can there not be a business model for internet? - vincentweber, on 04/14/2008, -1/+0The only thing that can fight MS is open source. A single cathedral-style developed commercial office suit doesn't stand a change in hell. And let's face it: there are 3x more odf files than ooxml files on the web.
But the enemy of my enemy is my friend. So I hope they can at least take a small percentage of the office suit market. - YodaJones, on 04/14/2008, -2/+1Here is why Ballmer doesn't like Linux:
http://tinyurl.com/4bdyv4 - wtcny, on 04/14/2008, -1/+0While Yahoo accepts Google's search adverts to rise yahoo's stocks, google also tries to consolidate their place on search engine market.
- vincentweber, on 04/14/2008, -2/+1HP printers are designed for- and run Linux and there is this HP driver that let's it talk to windows.
Where are you going with that one? - inactive, on 04/14/2008, -3/+2Round One: FIGHT!
- mnemonick, on 04/14/2008, -2/+0Google, Microsoft, hmm....
... as said Mylene Farmer - ***** them All - Rauby, on 04/14/2008, -3/+1Fight till the end!!
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