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- screwzluse, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31lol... You're "take on it" is two little comments and some screenshots. Kind of a waste don't you think? Why not advertise your blog when you have something more interesting say about it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16everyone should take the time to thank a speadsheet proggie. It was the killer app that started the computer revolution
- duniyadnd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10For those of you who have not received an invite, I learned that if someone decides to share the application with you, you bypass that wait..
- kurosen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I already got to play with it and like what they have to offer. I just wish it didn't send you to a new spreadsheet when you just want to close one you were working on. Hopefully in a future build, pressing "Close" will send you to a list of documents you have made or are invited to modify/view instead.
- LilGator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7you guys honestly think bots these days can't parse [at] instead of @ with a simple RegExp? lol
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6That looks pretty nice. One of the comments in the TechCrunch comment section really caught my eye, about Google and Microsoft going at it with web software suites. This is fantastic news for everyone, with the biggest office software company going up against one of the most popular search engines and their web software - I'm sure we'll see lots of competition, lots of free functionality and oneupmanship and some great tools popping up from both companies.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Microsoft really thrives when they feel a strong competitor breathing down their neck. I guess when you get a company that large and powerful, complacency starts to set in and it takes an upstart like Google to get that fighting spirit. In the web-based software wars, it doesn't matter if Microsoft or Google comes out on top - we all win. - LilGator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7So if Google releases a full office suite ... can we please call it ...
Gooffice :) - rasterbator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5and Microsoft didn't create the first spreadsheet. so give credit where credit is due:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisiCalc - olliholliday, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5www.editgrid.com
seems a fair bit better than the current incarnation of google spreadsheet.
especially the nice excel-like UI hints when creating a formula. - starbird, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Totally agree. some "standard/common knowledge" workflows seem to be thrown out the window, but it's a great start
- zirtbow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Not a bad idea but I couldn't see myself using this over Excel. It seems quite a bit slower when browsing through a medium size document. Also there are plenty of small things such as right click bring up a menu to format a cell.. double clicking the lines between columns to auto expand a column. I know someone before in an earlier thread said this of course wouldn't catch on or that people would complain about it not being exactly like excel. I think the biggest letdown is how much slower it handles spreadsheets in comparison to excel.
- glyph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I just gave the spreadsheet program a go this morning. It seems alright, nothing insanely thrilling though, but it could have certain uses.
The main problem I found is that it is a little CPU intensive. This isn't a problem for people with relatively modern PCs, but the masses of 400mhz, Windows 98 / Office 97 users hiding in the dark corners of the world might mind. All the transparencies didn't help the CPU either when running on basic non-accelerated software mode graphics. - Aslan72, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6If anyone wants a go, I'll share out a spreadsheet to the first 30 people who reply to this message.
- lane.montgomery, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Don't get me wrong, because I love it and am using it for all my spreadsheets now instead of open office, but...
#1. Being a browser app, it has some big annoyances. I won't list them all, but my biggest one is the Ctrl-PgUp/Dn shortcut. I use that to switch tabs in Firefox. It is the same shortcut commonly used to switch tabs in a spreadsheet program. Put the two together, and when I switch between Spreadsheets and Calendar when doing my budget the spreadsheet also switches pages. Very annoying.
#2. Rows and columns are not automagically created as I scroll. Normal programs do this. In order to accomplish it in Spreadsheets, I have to insert rows and columns.
#3. Borders. I am a border freak when it comes to spreadsheets. I use it to make massive amounts of data cleaner and easier to parse.
Overall it is a great product though. Especially since it's a limited beta test (not an open beta, like Google is more known for). If they could solve these three issues then I would be 100% sold on it. I don't care that it's a little laggy, it's worth it to have access to my data wherever I'm at without having to worry about if the version of the file I have on me is the most up to date. Once they get the feature set in that they want, I'm sure they'll be working harder on speeding things up anyway. - garrycam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@PowerCow
You are so right. I still have a copy of VisiCalc a spreadsheet program that ran on a Radio Shack Model 1 computer. This, I think, was in 1979 or 1980. I remember paying big bucks for it and felt that I got real value for my money. I would love to be able to run it today and see just how far we have gone in spreadsheet creeping elegance. Hmmm, maybe I should see if I can find the old RS up in the attic and see if it will run. I recall it came with lots of disks and a huge binder of instructions. Oh well, your comment immediately had me in the "Way Back Machine". - screwzluse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I do like the idea of applications starting to go online so they could be accessible from anywhere but maybe I'm just old school, but I do like to have something that I actually own on my own computer rather than something that I'm being granted temporary access to online. The internet should not be a requirement for computing. Maybe that's just me. heh..
- mailman-zero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I really wish there were a good way to implement a context-sensative right-click menu. I am constantly trying to right-click to change properties of cells I'm working with. It's a pain to have to race all over the screen just to do simple things.
Google is on the right track, however, and I commend them for their efforts and for releasing this (along with so many other things) for free. - anti-net, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Microsoft should be afraid! if its anything like writely it'll be a great product. btw, a little advice, don't post your e-mail on a public webpage that gains so many hits!
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They're pretty quick with the invitations. I signed up yesterday and got my invitation this morning.
I am having trouble importing .xls files into it, hopefully that will work better very soon. Great start, though.
I'm glad to see Google pushing the idea of web-based apps this aggressively, but in the long run, I think the real benefit will be that Microsoft gets pushed to make Office Live a serious online tool. They've really been stepping it up with their latest work on the "real" Office, and I'm willing to bet that in one or two years, hardly anyone will use installed apps for basic things like word processing, spreadsheets, or presentations. - jordanrobbins, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This is another in a long line of google products that will probably end up one day in a completely browser based Google OS. In Theory, it should work for a lot of basic pc users. All your storage would be online. All your basic applications would be online (office suff, picture albums/editors, music player, etc.).
They can deny it all they want but an OS is inevitable. - loyd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3not true. i tried to do that with one of my friends and it didnt work.
- itsnotvalid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They don't do public beta because this new beta thing needs pretty much CPU power, as every time I login to it redirects to a different server. (e.g., http://*.spreadsheets.google.com/)
- duniyadnd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Weird.. I did it with about 10-15 people this morning, and they got instant access.. You're sharing a saved document?
- seventoes, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I signed up for an invite yesterday, and already got my invite. Im pretty sure noone invited me, i havent asked anyone.
- BrewedInTexas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ctrl + Tab / Ctrl + Shift + Tab are your friends.
Plus it's a fairly standard shortcut. - LilGator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2right mouse button you mean ? and if so, editgrid.com's solution had no problem doing that with little menu's and all...
- BluParadox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1meebo.com... Much simpler than this kind of round-about solution
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it imports xls fine also - at least in my case. the spreadsheet was exported from openoffice.org 2.0 to .xls then imported to Google Spreadsheet. hopefully in the future they will allow us to import spreadsheets from openoffice.org
- pabster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Snappy as hell here.
Opera 9 8460 + Windows XP - ramsinks.com, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i like it.. but again i like Ooo being installed or a portable version..
- cataphoresis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've used if a couple times (email me if you want in), and my first (and really only) gripes are these: no graphing options (that I could see, feel free to correct me if I missed them) and some of the functions from Excel aren't there. However I was very impressed with the amount of functions (statistical, financial, and logic) that G-Spreadsheets has integrated. As a scientist I'd of course love to see some of the more exhaustive statistics (f-test, ANOVA, etc) built in, but I also know that this is not meant as a replacement for MS Excel. Overall, I'm impressed. Now when is Google going to make Writely available?
- Demarche, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3oh, I'll take you up on that. See profile.
- cataphoresis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Good point on the borders. I just realized they weren't there either. Color coding is an alternative, but borders are so much better.
- ryanmetcalf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1editgrid is quite enjoyable. hopefully google will open the Beta invite to a few of us who applied. surprised they didn't just buy this like they did with the browser word processor.
- smithco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thanks! You're today's Digg hero. (smithco at gmail)
- dnthomps, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ BluParadox... Like I said... "Blocked from chat at work or school"
Meebo is blocked. - kherrick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well I got an invitation, and it is cool, especially for it's collaboration potentials... but I wouldn't try to compare it much to Excel or OpenOffice Calc as it seems to have been over the last few days... I think it should be a little snappier as well... seems to get bogged down when resizing columns and such, on my setup that is, 2.4ghz p4,firefox 1.0.4,Ubuntu 6.06.
Not sure about all my data being online either... - nikolas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thanks, nikol4s (@) gmail com
- yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Notebook, Spreadsheets, Browser Sync, now what's next?
- thealanberman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@brickbat:
Google is huge. They can afford to spare the personnel towards developing new services like spreadsheets while still having a team of people working on things like Gmail/SMS/Calendar etc.
If you have a complaint about Gmail/SMS/Gcal, take it up with the Gmail/Gcal/SMS team... the spreadsheets people probably have very little to do with Gmail. - mulls, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The spreadsheet app is older than Windows itself. But Google puts it online, and it's cool. Snore.
- bugsy187, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Please don't plug your blog. You look like an *****.
- Aslan72, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Screw that. There are too many people out there that are willing to give them away for free...
- blaumag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Good idea, thanks. blaumag at gmail dot com
- rockzcm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is the concept of web 2.0.
Web is a plateform now. - armbar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'll bet Apple will release a program called Gallant right afterward.
(Highlights for Children, anyone?) - dax411, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have been freaking waiting for someone to take the Office Suite to the web since 2000. It just makes sense for me. I use gmail for my corporate email for my business and this is the missing link with writely and spreadsheet.
I don't need 99% of the features I only need the 1% that makes me productive. I hate when I forget to transfer files to my USB drive and I don't like the idea of having to remote into my office machine when I need to edit a document. This is great. I edit it, it autosaves, and is accessible anywhere. I mean really I don't think I can do any work without a web connection. We have been assimilated and we need to be enabled.
I think this is a great 1st step Google. Kudos.
Dax Desai
President
www.dnainvestments.com - ButtonDownBobby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thank you very much
NoSpamPlease2005 [at] gmail [dot] com - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Google is going to be Google Everything with all the new products and acquisitions they have. As one comes in to their puzzle each week, for sure a Google Everything! is coming soon.
http://www.oozm.com/List_of_Acquisitions_by_Google - chrislerch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I asked for an invite but didn't actually need it (still haven't gotten it). I went to labs.google.com and clicked on "Google Spreadsheets" and was immediately dumped into a blank spreadsheet. I was logged on to gmail at the time.
Tried it a bit - not bad but they need to add some kind of file management function like the other online sheets (editgrid, numsum, irows, numbler) have. -
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