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- glowfood, on 10/10/2007, -3/+128Google had a video rental service?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+99This story illustrates why anyone who "purchases" DRM music is a complete moron.
If the company goes out of business, or shuts down their service, YOU ARE *****. - AllenS, on 10/10/2007, -2/+75"This will piss off people that have used the service..."
Yes, it will piss off both of them. - Sarawanan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+64This will piss off people that have used the service considering that the only compensation is a $2 coupon which makes you join Google CheckOut. I don't typically hate on Google, but it's not a good move for them to discontinue the service and offer ridiculous compensation. Hopefully nobody spent much money on the downloads they offered.
On the other hand, it's a good reminder letting people that use DRM services (like iTunes) to either remove DRM by burning to CD or simply buy DRM-free downloads. I can only imagine how many people would get pissed if Apple ever pulled a stunt like this and $200 of music stop working on them. - 0zzy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+48Who here has bought from Google Video? ...
- swizzley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22It's not always a $2.00 coupon. "To fully account for the video purchases you made before July 18, 2007, we are providing you with a Google Checkout bonus for $" the amount of the coupon depends on the amount of purchases you have made.
Although getting a coupon is crap. - OKeric, on 05/12/2008, -5/+23This is probably the first move Google has made that has me disappointed. It could be some kind of legal issue that we don't know of though.
- CrimsonBlur, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17This scenario is exactly why I refuse to use any service where the content is not on a physical media or downloaded to my hard drive (same thin I guess). If I've payed for it, I own it, and I want to be able to play it as long as I have the equipment to do so, not as long as the service is still in operation.
- fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16Yeah... a legal issue. Absolutely, positively, definitely not their accountants saying "why are we wasing money on this thing almost nobody uses".
- Lagstorm, on 10/10/2007, -2/+122 dollars.....I want my 2 dollars!!!!!
- Phoenixfury, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11The evil DR. M strikes again!
- noobeffect, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11This was news to me as soon as I read this headline.
- laseractive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10And people wonder why DRM is *****? I feel sorry for anyone dumb enough to have bought anything from them.
- Vardogr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7To be fair, I'm sure the service was in beta! :D
- unloud, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Why couldn't they just leave the paid videos up for those users? What's the deal?
- deeblite, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I bought an episode of Call for Help from them. Once.
- oepapel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I remember when they launched the service and people were saying how this would finally give competition to Apple. :)
So much for the pro-DRM argument. Even though it's a large company, they can pull the plug with no notice or (practically) no compensation.
they don't have to go out of business, they can just turn off the servers one day... - skellener, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7> ...previously purchased videos will no longer be playable.
The fear people have about DRM has finally come true! Yes it is happening! Material you bought and paid for will not work now, not due to mechanical failure, damage or other catastrophe, but do to the sheer whim of a corporation - Google (I guess they forgot "Do no evil"). Interesting it is hapening at the same time that Universal is beginning to sell music without DRM! - RobotBuddha, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I hate to be "that guy" on this issue, but you didn't pay for the video. You paid to access the video for the duration of google's service. They ended it, per your licence agreement they don't even owe you the refund. This is why propriatary formats and drm is ***** and should never be used unless you have some way of extracting that data into an open format.
- anamanaman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I almost thought I might possibly buy something from them someday.
- totorototoro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5A bummer for those few who actually used the service-but this is nothing compared to how pissed people will be when the "subscription" music services start going out of business...leaving all those people with nothing to show for that $9.99/month they are spending for unsupported DRM.
- ronmexico, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Why are you angry? Sounds like you didn't even know about the service, I don't know how you were affected.
- georgehotelling, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Apparently no one. If I buy something, it's mine and the place I bought it from can't make it disappear.
- Charbax, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Google pays me $50 as Google Checkout bonus to use within the next 2 months. Cause I have bought and rented quite a bunch of DRMed Google Videos. Basically I'm sure if anyone has spent $500 buying Google Videos, then that's probably the amount that Google is compensating with.
What I really hope, is that all the effort that independant content partners of Google have put into digiziting and uploading the videos, that Google does have a plan for a much more successfull business model that doesn't involve DRM to show those videos on the Internet and to make some revenue for the independant video journalists, artists and producers. - planetoftheweb, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I got the same mail, because I bought a couple of videos from them a while back (Star Trek Voyager). The scary thing about this is this is the first time Google has actually shut down one of their products...what's next Gmail, Picassa, Office? and upon what grounds did the service get discontinued...because it wasn't making them any money? Not enough subscribers? Scary.
The only reason this would be good for everyone and what I think may be happening is that Google is about to come out with something better. Perhaps a true subscription service, or better yet, they're making the whole library free. It could happen. Contextual advertiser sponsored free Google Video Channels. Sounds like something they would do. - fuzzmeister, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5What does Yahoo Mail have to do with this?
- gcnaddict, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Watch your movies and download them too. You might need to work a hack to pull it off but I bet once you have the movies attached to your account, it shouldn't take *too* much effort to find their download locations.
- mastertop, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5True, buried as innacurate
- OsakaWilson, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Not that I'm bitter or anything, but since they wouldn't take my money (or billions of other people who happen to live outside the U.S.) I am glad to see their flawed business plan fail.
- Kavok, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3They are giving same-value Google Checkout coupons, theoretically you could just buy the content with the coupons from some DVD site. Although I doubt everything is available in DVD form.
- Kavok, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3From other replies it seems that they are matching your total spent in coupons.
- drimo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5I agree. I purchased a video on cross country skiing in the Olympics. It was a great video, but now I apparently can't watch it? Thanks a lot Google.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3 I feel the same way...I will not use anything that is DRM'ed...Never have,never will.
- samnmax, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4They appear to match what you spent. However, this is very inappropriate. People already made the purchase for this video, and google should continue to provide a way for people to view it or download it. If this is impossible, then they should give a full refund. Giving you a coupon that you can only spend on google checkout, that expires after 60 days, is not a refund. I personally did not use this service, but I know I'd be quite pissed off with this 'deal' as offered.
- thesimo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3same here
- phlogiston99, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Poor business decision: cost of maintaining legacy service for existing customers < cost of backlash for said poor business decision.
Google does not seem to me like a company that cuts corner. They make billions, they are worth billions, why on earth would they pull something like that? - Coded1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You do have a valid point, not only have I never purchased from them, I have never heard of anyone purchasing from them. Why not just tag Google hosted links to your personal account aka Gmail? They boast about server farms and fiber optics, they should be able to set up a few racks to serve 1GB files over about 40-60 minutes to the hand full of people who gave them the money. Fundamentally yes, this is an example of what distrust of what the end user can do.
What we need to do is establish a public 'platform' consisting of simple technical standards for artists, prospective artists and armatures to record data. Not what can be recorded but how it should be formatted as well as to what fidelity is recommended. Nothing will stop anyone from formatting their content any way they like and submitting it, but it will establish what the end user wants by ways of forums and blogs, simple things should be of debate(fps, resolution, audio fidelity) the recommended format of a media file is open source, which should have the ability of playing stable on 'slow' sub 300MHz procs or maybe if it can be narrowed down to only a few basic functions that can be done easily via hardware implementation. A µC can be made to process and directly output the full frame to a buffer, from there you can implement that process in any device for quite cheap once the code and chip is established.
Well that's my rant for today ....
thanx - otatop, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Please leave the Internet.
- cl0n3x, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Google had paid video? $2 off google checkout for an apology? Wtf... it should be at least $3 to satisfy my anger.
- Lagstorm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I miss that entire tech tv line up from back in the day and amber mac is a cutie. G4TV really screwed itself by firing everyone. Good thing most of them continue thier great work online.
- Wolfcaster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2i got 5 dollars, thanks google
- natch, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3What about the people who want to keep their videos? How is money (actually, not true, it's really Google Checkout credit) going to make them happy?
- narula, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5This is ***** evil! If the service is such a failure, then why don't they just refund the money for purchased videos that will no longer play? It's not like they don't have the cash. At least this will give users the option to find their content elsewhere rather than forcing them to spend money on yet another Google service.
- timsit, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3More evidence of Google and Apple working together? Watch the skies!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Do they happen to have car rental or maybe spaceship rental that no one heard of as well?
- etnu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2- It's expensive to host it indefinitely and hire engineers to maintain it when you have no new revenues
- They didn't own the content, and perpetually licensing it would be obscenely expensive.
There are probably other reasons. - slightedwit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2They aren't giving money back, they're giving a credit to another worthless service.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm fed up with this comment system...
- Lightspeed2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1wow ever heard of google video? remember, the whole reason why they bought youtube, their competition? ***** idiot
- eviljim, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1FYI - the credit should have been for whatever your purchase amount was. So you are in some ways getting a "full refund" though that refund, apparently, expires in 60 days (admittedly, yes, lame). Though at least if you spent $100 or whatever, it's not like you're only getting a $2 credit.
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