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- flipzmode, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I have been reading digg on a daily basis for months, but finally had to create an account just to comment on this b/s story. Anyone bother to read the whois information?
Domain Name: gmail.com
Registrant: Google Inc
Created on..............: 1995-Aug-13.
Expires on..............: 2014-Aug-12.
August of 1995! gmail has been in the works a lot longer than that other one, which says it was registered on Aug. 1, 2003. Notice that the article says this .cn website was registered before google announced gmail, but do you think we always know what they are doing? Considering they registered the domain over 10 years ago, they have obviously had plans!
And yes, not to mention they have been using the multicolored google logo for how long now?
not-dugg!
-flipz - linuxbox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://web.archive.org/web/20040519102950/http://www.gmail.cn/
http://web.archive.org/web/20040401041817/http://gmail.google.com/ - HitLines, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Gmail was used internally for nearly 2years prior to launch to the public. They discovered there was approximately 6 types of email users, and Gmail has been designed to accommodate these 6.
http://alan.blog-city.com/an_evening_with_googles_marissa_mayer.htm - howie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For the record: Google did not rip off this Chinese site. If you use The Wayback Machine, you will notice that the colourful logo is in fact not the one from back, then, but it actually uses this one for the old version of the site:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050927072737/http://gmail.cn/gmail/images/gamail_logo.jpg
As you can see, it is from today. Most likely, the original logo is missing from archive.org, and looked completely different. It just gets the current logo to replace the old missing logo. - ciphex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0the colorful google logo predates this asian gmail service by a long shot.
these guys claim their domain registration date as proof... regardless of when google announced gmail or registered gmail.com googles gmail is on the google.com domain. its been around a long time. a lot longer than we have known it.
I agree with mirth. this company likely saw the probability of a google email service... used the gmail name and a multicolored logo and figured they would profit off of it one way or another.
even if this little company was there first and had no such intentions... you guys actually think that google needs to steal webmail technology? its webmail. if i had a few talented friends and the resources I could pump out a very similar service in about the same amount of time.
steal webmail?
come on. - Duncan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Way back when machine (Archive.org) Suggests that gmail.cn adopted its current design on
May 24th 2004
http://web.archive.org/web/20040524130554/http://gmail.cn/
GMail (Googles version for those getting confused :P ) Adopted its design on..
April 2nd 2004
http://web.archive.org/web/20040402003421/http://gmail.google.com/
Correct me if im wrong, doesnt April come before May?
Yes someone is ripping off someone else, but its not google thats doing it. its gmail.cn - orbitalpunk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0who cares. so what if they inspired google. nothing wrong with improvments. thats how music and art and evloved for decades. anyways, the chinese has a really poor layout. yeah, its cleaner then yahoo, but i think it was done out of lazyniess and a poor design dept.
- h4lofourt33n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well I'll be damned.
- DaviDK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's a lie.
Search the internet archive for the www.gmail.com domain and for www.gmail.cn
Google bought it in april 2004, only in may did gmail.ch ripoff google
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.gmail.cn/ - jamesburton1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That is totally nothing compared to the "real" gmail! Google wins.
- bono_86, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't think it really matters, Google owns the domain gmail.com and the Chinese own gmail.cn. As far as I'm concerned theyre different. Unless Google wan'ts to buy the Chinese domain.
- krisse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Did they file for copyrights?
If not I think the court case will go the other way. :p - pophysis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1http://digg.com/links/Gmail_s_long-lost_Chinese_cousin_
- Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1No Digg - Inaccurate.
The Chinese company registered gmail.cn the same month Google announced they were releasing Gmail (even though they owned the domain before, and we knew what they were doing). The logo is a ripoff of Google's, not the Americans ripping off the Chinese.
Once again, it's the Chinese ripping off the Americans, not the other way around. - evilpig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/evilpig/78b44120.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/evilpig/gmail26-09-2005-12.jpg
Screenshots incase you didn't want to sign up. - daze, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0flipzmode - sorry, the creation date in this case is meaningless. google simply bought the gmail.com from the previous owner, which kept the creation date the same. google did not buy gmail.com in 1995, 2 years before they bought google.com!
- trillion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0>> August of 1995!
Uhh. You do realise that gmail.com was registered by someone else in 1995? Google purchased it later. - doofus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0In an event of a lawsuit, if Google is be found guilty the co-founders should be subject to a firing squad.
- zediker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well, first off, Google has had its trademarked colors for years, then all of a sudden, no-named chinese company appears from nowhere claiming they had a site up before google did. The fact that everyone on the face of the planet who uses the internet knows of google, and they choose NOW to create this lawsuit? Smells fishy to me. When it comes to the chinese and copyright lawsuits, dont trust them. My next question would be, can the wayback machine always be trusted, is there a way to introduce erroneous data?
- jkeyes0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0where is everyone getting that Gmail is getting sued by these people? in that article, the gmail.cn people were quoted as saying "We don't have a relationship them. It's just a link," It really doesn't sound like they're going to push for a lawsuit. Even if they have a well-founded claim (which it doesn't seem like they do), it doesn't look like that's what they're after.
- Magallanes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0China and Copyright in the same phrase?. It's possible?
- evilpig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It leaves this on the bottom of your messages
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欢迎使用ISM Gmail中文邮!想了解更多,请访问 www.ism.net.cn ! - retr0spectiv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0those who are saying "9 years" should remember google didnt own it way back in 1995. they just bought it from whoever did. That was probably right around when people started buying up cheap domains that they thought might bring them money (I wonder how much Google bought the Gmail domain for...)
- akira117, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0thanks flipzmode
-digg - mojaam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Profits or money is the whole purpose behind all this. Whatever...
- RatBagu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So what happens? The chinese firm sues Google and wins a few million dollars? Big deal.
- rookieone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0haha now why in the heck would you make a "gmail" when it dont meen nothin? Google has a reason = GOOGLEmail...but china? what could the "G" stand for?!?!?!
- freonchill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0but does the chinese offer 2+ gb for email?
- digital.dreamer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Go here and read sentence 11
http://alan.blog-city.com/an_evening_with_googles_marissa_mayer.htm - SpeedyG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You look at the Wayback machine, and it literally looks like gmail.cn changed the look of their site to match the day after Google put up GMail. How did this get to the front page?
- techjunkie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0google is too cool to rip off anything
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Brilliant. I was too late to gmail.com to get the address I wanted - now I have it at gmail.cn
Awesome. - Bannana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Welcome to come to Beijing likes thinking beautiful Gmail Mailbox system
LOL Google good work not translating the page
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.gmail.cn/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gmail.cn%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DKDH%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG - wingo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1how stupid is it to print whois information after another guy have already done that. read comments from top to bottom - NOT the other way around.
i can only hope that gmail.cn gets a huge profit instead of skyhigh bandwithbills. :( - Hazerduz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/09/26/HNgmailcousin_1.html?source=rss&url=www.infoworld.com/article/05/09/26/HNgmailcousin_1.html
- Bannana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Not!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you feel like getting a Gmail.cn address, you'll need the interface translated.
I put up a quick and dirty one with screenshots here: http://www.permission3000.com/gmailcn.html - Darqfaux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Listen to hitlines, he's right!
- BETA7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://google.com/gmail
NOTE**** First page there was sited on OCT 14th 2004 thats way before it was even anounced. - altidude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Let's see; China steals weapons info from the US and Google steals (maybe) and email interface from China. That's hardly a fair swap.
- BETA7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0geniouses learn to read Gmail.cn stands for Global mail
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0GoodMail
- bahaal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This one is easy to solve guys. Take a look at the archive of the site. In early 2004 their website design looked totally different. So this means they are not telling the truth :
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.gmail.cn
Arash - PatrickMelton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The guy who said gmail was in the works since 1995 is a moron. Google didn't even exist.
- CyberWindCloud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Chinese firm suing American firm about IP right...that's a rarity
- darksteppa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0crap....this is a crap story...
chinese bootleg EVERYTHING they can get their hands on...just like an above comment about copyright?! whatever...copyright doesn't mean crap to them. From electronics...media...style...even japanese restaurants!hah!, they SERIOUSLY COPY EVERYTHING.
you can find anything bootlegged from china...now they're trying to claim gmail.
China will always hold a grudge with anything that has power... - mdmoya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0beta7: "NOTE**** First page there was sited on OCT 14th 2004 thats way before it was even anounced."
What are you talking about? Gmail (Google's Gmail) was launched April 1, 2004.
Also, looking at Wayback Machine, Gmail.com was owned by a company called NetConcept until Google launched their Gmail.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://gmail.com - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you think the idea of using Gmail.cn sounds cool, say to get an address like Sergey.Brin@gmail.cn - please digg my English guide to Gmail.cn http://www.digg.com/links/How_to_use_Gmail.cn_
- Mirth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Feh. I don't see enough similarities.
Besides, wasn't google using the colored logo for google.com first? Sounds like an attempt to get some recognition.
No digg. - GuyHersh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Pophysis
You are an idiot you know this right, this article was posted 3 hours before yours. Sooo your saying This is a dupe, but YOU CREATED IT AFTER THIS ONE.
Some people need to do research b4 posting...
Guy -
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