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- cmallinson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27"most of what i ahve seen from Google has been mediocre with the exception of Google earth"
They have a good web search thingy too (http://google.com). - 10001110101, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Agreed. Picasa rocks.
- chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Google = $25/yr for 6 GB of uploads
Flickr = $25/yr for 2 GB of uploads per month - pkulak, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Why duplicate iPhoto? I like iPhoto.
- Buelldozer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14I use Picasa on both Windows and Kubuntu.
- matt428, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13It has larger storage than the free Flickr account (which limits the free user to 200 photos). Google allows 250meg (or ~1000 photos desktop size). That in itself is a compelling reason to switch.
Also, it seems that Google allows unlimited albums, whereas Flickr offers 3 to the free user. - MyDocuments, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10i was going to say. does this mean that they're not bringing picasa to the mac, since they're integrating web albums into iphoto?
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12If you're wondering what it looks like, check out my albums:
http://picasaweb.google.com/osirisx11/EveningInLaCrosse
http://picasaweb.google.com/osirisx11/FourthOfJulyInHillsboro - threepio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Perhaps, but in the short term I'd say no. This uploader includes a plug-in for iPhoto - I think Google has acknowledged that iPhoto does a "good enough" job for the majority of Mac users - and Free without having to Download It beats Free off the Internet any day*
*IE Notwithstanding. - andywirtanen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The Flickr free account allows you to upload more than 200 photos. However, only your last 200 photos will be displayed on your Flickr page. The limit is in terms of bandwidth and is (to my knowledge) 20MB/month.
- dextroz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Until Google does not take out the picture/space limits for free, Picasa will just be another option in the market. Google completely lost fo Youtube inspite of having their service ready before them - Google was taking way too long to 'approve' videos. It's funny that they would let you store unlimited videos in your account but limit the number of pictures.
- 10001110101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9If you hate Yahoo (as I do), then Flickr is a non-option. Plus, I believe there's some sort of monthly upload limit? PWA gives you a 250 mb cap.
- mastercheif, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7But the one thing google is missing with all of its web apps is comunity features. You cant have friends, no tagging of pictures ETC.
- MattL920, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Picasa's auto-fix features get much better results than iPhoto.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7believe me or not, this morning (here in Italy) i told my mother (explorer == Internet) to buy a 20' ibook.
after installing it her only complaint was that "there's no picasa for this mac computer"
after 6 hours I called her and told her that i've been speaking with some dude there in California and now there is the mac version too for her picasa
we were both laughing - SnuKs, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Can this be any better than Flickr??
- pygmalion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You have to tell me where to buy those 20' ibooks :D
- TheMysteryCow, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Used Picasa. Used iPhoto. Prefer Picasa. For my tastes, it's much more user friendly... the keyword functionality is a bit more intuitive, and Picasa allows me to upload to a larger number of online photo printers than iPhoto. IIRC, iPhoto only lets you upload to Kodak(?) - Picasa has ties to about all of the big boys. Picasa FTW!
- gaurav4u99, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5yeah right.
GoogleVideo takes so much time to get verified. But now their web upload(100 mb) at a time is
instant.
Still wondering why are they limiting picasawebalbum space..maybe because it is test.
test < beta - mojofrojo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'm gonna have to steal some of your fireworks pics to make some wallpapers, that is if you set the album to be D/L.
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Feel free. One conditon, send me a screenshot. :)
James@JamesWilson.name - Otto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3>>>"But the one thing google is missing with all of its web apps is comunity features. You cant have friends, no tagging of pictures ETC."
Not everything needs to be a social experience. I don't use flickr specifically because it's heavily geared towards community. I'm not interested in community, I'm interested in an online photo album.
Picasa does have tagging, BTW, but it's rather poor at the moment and doesn't upload to your PicasaWeb album. - TheGeekNextDoor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7This is still a better alternative to paying for this sort of service from apple with .mac.
- dmclone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I upgraded to the 6gb and couldn't be happier.
I remember about 5 years ago having a photo account and the web site went out of business and I lost all my photos.
I think I have them backed up about 10 different ways now. - Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You're obviously an ass, since you describe yourself as a reluctant mac enthusiast. What the ***** does that mean? You like Macs but don't like the fact you like them?
iPhoto is a database. It is not a file structure. You ignore the file structure. That is how it is designed. If you try to use a database as if it was one of your 90's directory hierarchy model applications you will feel pain. The kind of pain an idiot feels when he hits himself on the head with a mallet. POINTLESS.
If you want access to files in the file system, you export them. Just as you would from a database.
And iPhoto 6 more than holds its own with Picasa on speed and features. - someirishguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Agreed. I bought my first ever Mac this week, and am quite happy with it overall but iPhoto just seems cumbersome when compared to Picassa.
- dreamlayers, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I created my own uploader using PHP and CURL. That sort of thing is not hard to do. I used the Tamperdata Firefox extension to produce a log and then wrote the PHP code based on that.
- adamawick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I used to have iPhoto 4 (shipped with 10.3 in the summer of 2004) on my 15" PowerBook, and after I got more than a couple of hundred photos in it, what you said became painfully true: iPhoto was not only slow to use, but it slowed my entire system down to a crawl just by even having it open! Fast forward a few months: after a trip to Europe, I now had about 4,000 photos (far fewer than the limit at that time, which was 25,000 photos, IIRC) in iPhoto and using it to do anything other than importing and conveniently storing photos was painful.
As I watched Jobs's keynote last January, however, he spent an inordinate amount of time demoing iLife '06, which, as we all know, includes iPhoto 6. One of the things that he asserted during his demonstration was that they had reworked the architecture of the program to optimize it for speed and that they increased the maximum number of photos in a library to 250,000. Honestly, this boggled my mind: if my PowerBook (which was only about 18 months old) was having trouble with 4,000 photos, how could it ever possibly manage *250,000*? These two things, combined with the other features that they added with 6 (full-screen editing and compare spring to mind), really made me interested in trying out this new version despite the fact that I'd have to pay to update my software.
To make a long story short, I eventually got a gift certificate that took the edge off of this price of this software, so I snapped it up last April. After I installed iPhoto 6 and let it update my library, I was truly blown away by its speed and efficiency; scrolling through my entire library by dragging the scroll bar was actually an option now! Gone was the cumbersome photo-storage system (storing photos by "film roll" makes *much* more sense to me than by the date that they were taken; this system is actually easily navigable in Finder), a fact that brought me great joy. Overnight (or in the course of an afternoon), iPhoto 6 made my photo library navigable. As an added bonus, my video clips that I've taken with my camera are now stored "in context" beside the photos from the same roll. I'm happy.
That having been said, I will state that iPhoto *does* eat hard drive space like crazy: my "9.5 GB" photo library (this is the number that iPhoto reports to the user in the information box) really takes up about 16+ GB on my hard drive due to the copies of photos that are stored whenever an edit is made, not to mention the variously-sized thumbnails that iPhoto makes upon importing photos to your library (and yes, it's my opinion the speed benefit is worth the hard drive space trade-off, at least on my machine).
Should iPhoto give you an option of how your want your library to be organized? Yes, I believe so, but really, most low-level users of OS X (the people to whom iPhoto is marketed, I think) really wouldn't know what to do with this option, or, possibly, they wouldn't really care. I guess that my brain is perfectly fine the *new* photo organization system employed by iPhoto 6, so for me it's a moot point anyway.
As far as Picasa support goes? I'm happy that they've made this plug-in available. - jholdaway, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I like Picasa above iPhoto for the speed at which it manages my thousands of photos. The way it loads only the thumbnails when they appear on screen can save time when you have 10,000+ photos.
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3There's no trailer parks in my pictures AFAIK...lots of people said my pics were good..but you're entitled to your opinon.
- matt428, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My initial sense after using Picasa was "I wish they made this available for OSX." I have to agree with your frustration about the file structure of iPhoto - the file organization system has been a major frustration. (Of course, you can get around this by doing an export from within iPhoto).
The other thing is that iPhoto discs (selecting the default burn-to-disc) is terrible if you want to use anything other than iPhoto. Here iPhoto imports its strange organization style, so that anyone without the program can only be left confused.
That said - I agree with your frustration that Google opted for the plug-in and not the competition. - Linh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3i really like picasa... however, I'm not a fan of picasaweb, I much prefer flickr. in my dreamworld, google will actually support flickr uploads directly.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1inaccurate, I'm sorry, obviously I meant iMac 20''
- Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No doubt saving room for the next great novel, filled with cleverly crafted phrases.
- Initram5, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I want NOT a stupid uploader but the entire PICASA software for my MacBook, please....
- Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well I've got 2 gigs of storage in my iDisk so that is something. And I've probably got 2000 photos posted there with iPhoto/iWeb. And Picasa so far can't sync all my contacts, bookmarks, calendars, keychain files, mail preferences and files across all of my systems.
But if you're just looking for a few albums then this option is fine. Like all google pages though they are ugly.
Also, I just installed the plug-in and it does work, but the link that it sends you to to activate your picasa account is incorrect. - MrCoke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2i'm new to mac, always liked picasa for lite image managment, noticed that iPhoto is alright but it takes 500mb on my hdd...... why? i will not understand this, would want picasa for mac for saving space on the hdd.
- AJMuni, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is awesome! Keep porting programs to OS X...
- Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1One week is not enough time to evaluate all that iPhoto has to offer. Especially if you're also learning all the other Mac stuff.
- madcow222, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Works on my MBP
- qpdb, on 12/31/2008, -0/+1I want sync between my picasa and my pictures on my computer. Iphoto only gives me and uploader
- timwizard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Finally. I was thinking of switching to Picasa, but its too much work to move all my iPhoto stuff.
- joshualindquist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Screenshots of the plugin at work...
http://picasaweb.google.com/limetreestudios/PicasaWebExport - TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I just hate how Picasa automatically puts all the photos on your computer into your library. I have that porn hidden for a REASON!
- lintmonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes, it is.
However, since it's a simple little drag-drop-click app, and Rosetta is built into MacOS X, even if it were a PowerPC app it would run fine.
This is really a non-issue. - todddixon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Boondoggle - I couldn't activate either. Someone have a URL we can try that will allow us to activate in our account?
- joshualindquist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I love the plugin, I think it's a huge step in the right direction. I'd like to see a full blown version of Picasa for Mac eventually though. I'll use this though.
- dmclone, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Now I remember----------------Photopoint
Those were the clowns that offered free storage and then went out of business. Or maybe I was the clown for using them. - matt428, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Ah... my apologies - read the post too quickly.
- DVRDude, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2All Apple/Mac stories should be tagged inaccurate today.
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