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- sentin3l, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Saying a company is all about money is kind of like saying a person is all about life.
- SexyGeniusNinja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8This just in Terrorists break laws/rules to further their cause.
start news reporter voice
Recent evidence has made it apparent for the first time, that Terrorists are making use of illegal means to fund their political agendas. Not only do such activities take place on a daily basis but we have yet to find a way to prevent them 100%.
Did you think that credit card scams against innocent civilians to fund death campaigns were the end of it? think again. Now terror organizations are using software to steal from the North American sacred cow... That's right people... advertisers. While once it was thought that advertisers were safe from exploitation by unwholesome individuals they now form rank and file with everyone else in being susceptible to crimes committed by terror organizations.
One man was quoted as saying "if we can't trust google to stop terrorists from committing crimes who can we turn to? the government?"
In my unbiased news reporter opinion I'd have to say that this is 100% google's fault in fact they probably meant for it to happen. I'd also like to say that searching for these groups is entirely the responsibility of google itself and that federal agencies have no place trying to find obvious examples of terrorists on the Internet.
up next on fox news more conservative lies being painted as indisputable truths.
end news reporter voice - MattCutts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I'll start debunking this immediately. The claim is that Google is funding terrorists via AdSense ads on Orkut. That's false because ad clicks on Orkut don't pay money to individual users. So it is literally *impossible* for bad guys to be making money via Orkut ads.
In addition, it appears in the picture from the article that Google is correctly detecting that this might be objectionable content and as a result is showing charity ads instead. - muffinmanpoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, I'll keep that in mind next time I'm browsing terrorist sites. ;)
- CristianMezei, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I kinda agree with you on "The idea that Google should investigate its partners past the point of fraud detection is ridiculous - why have a small group of inexperienced witch-hunters arbitrarily declaring sites as terrorist?". I agree with Will too. People should help too. Google can't do it all by itself.
- MattCutts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2tonyadam, of course Google is against click fraud. Google talks about it more than any other search engine, in my experience. See their 17 page report about the right way to analyze paid clicks, for example:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/08/our-analysis-of-click-fraud-detection.html
Also, Google provides a feature called autotagging for advertisers. Autotagging adds a parameter "gclid" which is unique for every ad click. That lets you distinguish between things like page reloads and hitting the back button vs. a new ad click. The other benefit of autotagging with gclid is that advertisers can point to a specific click and say "I think that click is good or bad." I don't think any other major search engine provides the same level of granularity in ad click information, and I don't see other engines giving as much info as Google (e.g. Google also shows each advertiser the % of invalid clicks that Google found and removed without ever charging the advertiser).
If any other major search engine thinks that they do more to stop click fraud than Google, please stop by and reply. - liamvictor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why anyone is blaming Google for this is beyond me. Google make the tool, others are abusing it.
Gosh, the money they're earning is in dollars, what next, blame the US Treasury or the Exchange Rate Mechanism?
Furthermore, looking at the imagery in the screen shot aren't those "sponsored links" public service ads? - jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4google's tax dollars are funding the largest and worst terrirorist organisation. The US Government.
- SexyGeniusNinja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@MattCutts (guess I missed the reply button)
The article isn't completely clear but it looks to me like the blog networks mentioned are not part of Orkut and that they use Orkut to coordinate with each other and possibly to target fraudulent click campaigns on adsense sites which are separate. I mean these blogs might not even contain terrorist information they could be online "fronts" I will say however that google's only responsibility would be to shut down the orkut accounts when detected and let governmental organizations handle the rest. - CristianMezei, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Google DOES fight against click fraud as much as it can!. No entity is perfect, no matter how much money are involved.
- leondz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is a ridiculous notion. Surely Google should be a company specialising in information management, right? I mean, it makes sense to devote as many of your resources as possible to your industry and expert area. Then, the taxes that they pay to the state can be fed to organisations that protect the state's interests, like national security. The idea that Google should investigate its partners past the point of fraud detection is ridiculous - why have a small group of inexperienced witch-hunters arbitrarily declaring sites as terrorist? Are you actually trying to troll with this site?
- WillSpencer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I have, on many occassions, reported AdSense ads on terrorist web sites and blogs to Google.
Enforcement of the Google AdSense Program Policies and Terms of Service against these publishers has been inadequate.
Next time you see an AdSense ad block on a terrorist web site -- report it to Google.
If enough people complain, Google will eventually have to take action. - cosequin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1why not just click the ads a bunch of times in a row, or better yet, copy their adsense code to a popular area on your site. It won't affect you, but will get them banned from adsense.
hezbollah:
http://www.orkut.com/UniversalSearch.aspx?q=hezbollah&pno=1&searchFor=A - WillSpencer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1liamvictor:
Google publishes Terms and Conditions and Program Policies which purport to protect AdWords advertisers.
Do you believe that Google should not be blamed for failing to follow their own published rules and for failing to protect their customers from click fraud?
Furthermore, only *some* of the ads displayed were PSA's. In addition, you can go find other Islamist hate sites which display AdSense ads merely by searching for them. - teenwolf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Matt, Google against click fraud? That's like saying P&G is against taking baths. Get off your high horse.
- Tim - skored, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Don't be evil??
- cosequin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Heck yeah! what about all the american indian babies that were given poisoned blankets!
- tonyadam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0What is Google's stance on Click Fraud as of right now?! I am sure this will cause a major news storm tomorrow (well today...thursday 12-7). But, I mean, a lot has changed since I came back to the search marketing industry. Is Google actually taking steps or are they still with the whole "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" take on things?
- theonesteve, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0... and click fraud isn't benefiting anyone except terrorists?
- Relevance4u, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0
Ha - but the small webmasters earning $2k per month are kicked and being accused for clickfraud!!
that's the story of the year! - ericodom, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Well, Google is all about money. "Screw what's best for the people" seems to be a good slogan these days.
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