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- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+130Alright, I'll boil down the article for anybody who cares:
Some people think that maybe sometime in the possible future that google may or may not possibly release a product that they may or may not have announced, maybe. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+79this will be tied into google base, but who uses google base?
- phpirate, on 10/12/2007, -13/+84Now about 1,000,000 people on digg will cry about how google is so successful and how they're worried about their privacy. If you don't trust them, don't give them this information. Ebay and paypal suck right now and all they need is a bit of good competition. If google is doing something, they'll make it good.
- rileyjt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+70Some Paypal competition would certainly be welcome - they have done nothing but increase their commission fees since Ebay bought them.
- Chewie67, on 10/12/2007, -2/+53No one.
But if you could use this for purchases on other web sites -- like PayPal -- then this becomes a big deal. - heymark, on 10/12/2007, -3/+47Of course he is! He said maybe!
- somerandomnerd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+45Goog£€?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+45Are you sure about that?
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+39"All I know is that my gut says maybe." -- His neutralness, Futurama.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+43All your Google Base are belong to us
- Bogtha, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30@replica,
GMail has much lower use because:
* It's invite-only
* It's very new
* No millions of dead accounts (I've probably got a dozen Hotmail accounts, can't remember the details for any of them, never use it).
As for Google News, you can't really compare a totally automated service that costs little to run with a news service employing dozens of editors, journalists, etc, can you? Even a minority market share is still very successful.
And in general, you have to consider the effect Google's services have on the market even if they don't take off. GMail and Google Maps have had a huge effect on the quality of the competition. For example, when GMail first came out, everybody rushed to raise their disk quotas, use Ajax, etc.
How much better will EBay make PayPal when they copy Google's innovations with GBuy? Competition is a good thing for consumers, especially when Google is involved, if history is anything to go by. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24@r2d7: gmail doesn't exactly represent a failure to 'muscle into an existing market'. same with google maps. the competition even changed the way they were doing things to be more like google. furthermore, ebay/paypal certainly perceives google as a threat, even if you don't.
- replica, on 10/12/2007, -19/+39r2d7 is right. Google has failed at everything they have tried except search.
Email Services
Yahoo! Mail 42.40%
MSN Hotmail 22.90%
Gmail 2.54%
News & Media
Google 1.90%
Business & Finance
Yahoo! 34.90%
MSN Money Central 13.40%
Google .29%
Travel - Maps
Mapquest 56.30%
Yahoo Maps 20.50%
Google Maps 7.50%
MSN Virtual Earth 4.30%
http://weblogs.hitwise.com/bill-tancer/2006/05/google_yahoo_and_msn_property.html - Seidoger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21And the infringement suits would be fifty times bigger too ;)
- apetrie, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19I think one thing you are neglecting to mention replica is how long some of those services have been available and what they actually count as users. At one point you had to have a hotmail account to use MSN messenger, thats not the case anymore but how many of those email addresses are still in use because people don't want to change their ID or started using them just to sign up for sites to avoid spam sent to their proper inbox?
How long has gmail been around, really? Not very long. Google maps even less time, and mapquest has been around for a long time and was once really the only option. A lot of people go to it by default, don't know of the alternatives, and are still using/pointing to maps on their sites that they have been for a long time. Why change if it still works?
Personally I don't think saying they can't break into or dominate those markets just because they haven't achieved that yet is not really fair, especially with Google maps and it becoming more integrated with the basic google search which is hugely popular. - 500freestyle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Oh, the Inquirer. Trusted source...
Anyways yeah, I think its fairly obvious they'll go in that direction eventually. Hopefully with a different name. - Clbck, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17That doesn't work, Disrupter... Otherwise we would be talking about Gssgle. :-P
- saska, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17"The Inquirer is NOT the National Enquirer"
No, it's the National Enquirer's technology equivalent. Seriously, the only good that comes of Inquirer articles is an occasional link to a real source without the hyperbolic teeth-gnashing. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17hahhahah, the inquirer? why is this on the front page.
- burke, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14I can't speak authoritatively, but doesn't Google tend to vehemently deny any rumours that are false? I haven't heard them speak against this one.
- Alegis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11It's astonishing how many hits Google will find if you search for "gbuy".
People are really getting afraid. - BlackGaff, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11No Digg - this article is lacking...what's the word? Oh yea..'content'.
- crilen007, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Because people don't read articles anymore, they just digg for the title.
- gunnmjk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"We have nothing specific to announce at this time," she gurgled.
lol, did they call her up while she was rinsing her mouth? - DrakeGTA, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9As if there were a world outside the internet?
- JurneyAhed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I'm suprised that GMail's 'insignificant' marketshare (especially at launch) scared MS and Y! enough to expand their storage offers by so much.
Not that I'm complaining - GMail (as in Y!'s response to it) is the reason why I solely use my Y! account for mail. I can't see how I could've ever been happy with 4MB. - crilen007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I hope its free, I mean, people are there to spend money already, they are looking up things they want to spend money on, technically that would be the perfect spot to have Google Ads.
- apotropaic, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13The inquirer?? Give me a break... get this off the front page of Digg
- gambl0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5She gurgled? What kind of writing is this? Horrible sorce, reported inaccurate.
- rasterbator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6How long will it be before some spammer spoofs mail from GBuy like the spoofs from PayPal?
I would rather see Google create GMart. - dharm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4for sure there will be gbuy, but everything else is just skeptical thinking...
everyone who says there will be a paypal like system, was just making it up, it could be true, but they were just making it up.
more than likely, this could be just used to sell google services. Such as using your own domain for your gmail accounts (currently in beta and free though), also google videos...
but if it is just like paypal... who knows if it will be better, just cause its google, doesnt mean its going to great. As far as we know, they could be a company that screws account holders worse than paypal.
also who actually uses google base, whoever said it was the endall to craigslist and ebay, were obviously proved wrong (atleast for now) - Tiak, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7*cough*dupe*cough* Okay, so it's not exactly a dupe, but at least it's about the farthest thing from being new news. (undugg/reported... Yes, I dugg before I read it, but at least I did in fact read it...)
http://digg.com/technology/GBuy_to_Launch_June_28
http://digg.com/technology/Watch_it_PayPal_-_Here_Comes_GBuy_
http://digg.com/technology/Google_Testing_PayPal_Killer_GBuy
All of those articles seem to have more information than this one and they span back four months... *shrugs* - diggerphelps, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4eBay owns PayPal, which is a system for handling online transactions.
Of course, this IS an Inquirer article, so they simply *must* overstate the situation ad nauseum in order to get anybody to read it.
'Misleading' is their modus operandi. - LMControl, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Google is fast becoming a jack of all trades... and a master of none. I don't mind their explorations into other markets and offering alternatives, but they don't seem to focus very long on their new endeavors. Just my 2 cents...
- tijer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Should have read "Goodbye PayPal, here comes GBuy"
There's really nothing threatening eBay just yet. Google Base might some day, but it needs a lot more than just Gbuy. Note that eBay uses PayPal for transactions.
GBuy is expected to be a financial transaction-system (just like PayPal), not a buy/sell/trade forum (like eBay). - ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3A system for handling online transactions != online auctions
misleading. - ConceptJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Inquirer != Enquirer"
You're right, the Enquirer has more credibility. - erikjernberg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I hate to say it, but I would stop using Paypal in a heartbeat. As Kevin Rose once said, "they take a ***** ton". They really do. I have a premium account and charge me coming and going. It is unreasonable. I have begun asking customers to pay me with a certified check for large items because I just can't deal with the stomach punch I get from Paypal on every transaction.
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Doesn't Google have more private information about its users than the government does?
- duniyadnd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@atelophobee
And the point they were talking about was market shares.. not a popularity contest. Google is #1 in Search, they use that to push into other markets, either successfully or unsuccessfully. For the most part, they've done a decent job, but to gain so much in existing market shares is quite hard to do, especially if you're dealing with security and money and most of all - customer feedback (something Google is NOT known for).
r2d7 and replica may have exaggerating saying that they failed - but they're right saying that they're not power houses the same way people don't consider Microsoft a search power house. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Can't live without thos?
Wow. A sadder, more pathetic post has never been made on digg before. - RobotCitizen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I was really hoping they'd name it GMoney.
- aweblogs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6082746.html
- OrangeTide, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Goodbye Game Spot .. hello G-spot.
- mathew_bug, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Has anyone noticed how ugly and bad designed is the inquirer?
- ChimRichalds, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Companies do NOT enter a new market expecting to take down the industry leader."
You are obviously not much of a businessman, flashboca. When did becoming an industry leader become something that entrepreneurs DON'T strive for? Did I miss the memo? Even if it might not be possible, if you don't expect to take down the industry leader you're probably not going to run a very successful business. - RBotros, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Well not that much of "Maybe"s.
Open: http://base.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=30724&topic=8288
And generally: http://www.gbuyguide.com/
They WILL transfer money through their Company. - zirtbow, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I don't know what your thinking but Google seems to have mastered the search engine arena. Who else holds that title? MSN? Yahoo?... pffft.
I'd almost say they have a great niche with adwords as well because they finally understood that a giant popup flash animation game that says your winner number five million was not what people wanted to see while visiting a web page. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3the inquirer, reliable?
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32345
come on, seriously. - GreenSlabOfClay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"We have nothing specific to announce at this time," she gurgled.
she gurgles?
lol
Wonder what she had in her mouth? :-> -
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