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- chrgrose, on 06/25/2008, -0/+18My university (south florida) just upgraded our e-mailing system to G-mail.
I no longer use the automatic forwarding option. - seddyei, on 09/18/2008, -0/+11My school upgraded too this just recently, too... it's too bad now they will be scanning literally every e-mail I now get for their targeted advertisements. Oh well, I guess I'll just buy that giant solar powered neon yellow fleshlight after all.
- joshualamgroup, on 06/25/2008, -0/+10When you go to the Google Apps Editions Comparison graph:
http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/admins/editio ...
- Relevant text-based ads alongside email:
Optional for students and full-time nonprofit staff
It's OPTIONAL. - Karmavs, on 06/25/2008, -1/+10Somehow I doubt most kids will be using IMAP
- beddoes, on 06/25/2008, -0/+8We've worked with Google on deploying apps to corporates and educational institutes. AFAIK the education packages don't include advertisements. The service really is top notch, especially when you start including single sign on so end users get to use their local username/password to access the remote GMail service. SAML really shines in use cases like this.
- Mikey9oo, on 06/25/2008, -1/+9we upgraded at USC as well.
- IndigoMoss, on 06/25/2008, -0/+7USF added it too, it's a lot better than the other garbage that the schools used before.
- warban, on 06/25/2008, -0/+6A someone from NSW here in Australia this is somewhat interesting to hear. The DET (Department of Education and Training) has already chosen to block most if not all of the common Web mail providers to students and teachers in schools. In Addition to this they rolled out their own email System for students and teachers which is accessible in and outside of school.
The fact that the school activity blocks all other web mail browsers makes me wonder who gets to know what.
- idontlikeyou2, on 06/25/2008, -0/+6Are there actually ads in the student accounts (the article doesn't say) ? They are getting about 9 million dollars, sounds more like a paid service rather than a free but ads included service.
- bawpcwpn, on 06/25/2008, -0/+6This is awesome. Still wish I was going to school in NSW. QLD need to get their act together.
- tonyarnold, on 06/25/2008, -0/+6I'm surprised the NSW government is even considering this. Surely the bloody patriot act is a large enough deterrent to hosting any data in the US? Especially data that belongs to minors.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a red-blooded Google rahrah man (heh) - but US laws around internet security and privacy scare the crap out of me. - Karmavs, on 06/25/2008, -0/+5proxyds.schools.nsw.edu.au
Use it; and gmail, along with most other sites you would want to view at school, aren't blocked.
In firefox, that means going to preferences>advanced>network>Settings… Selecting "Manual Proxy Configuration" and putting in the URL for all protocols. If you don't have firefox at your school; grab firefox portable (Digg is breaking my links — google it.) Have fun. - luchid, on 06/25/2008, -0/+5Except Gmail is never ever down and labels are 100x times better (and even if you're a caveman living in the dark ages you can still make them behave like folders). But please, be my guest, return to using your retarded, assbackwards, technologically stumped POS hotmail/aol mail.
- tiuk, on 06/25/2008, -0/+5Yeah, long ago I forwarded my student email account to my gmail account for ease of use and convenience. The school's webmail interface was terrible.
- cdigioia, on 06/25/2008, -0/+5It's about $8/student - and this way, I *assume* there's more guaranteed service, and a customized @*whatever school* email address.
I don't know, seems worth $8. - jjjjjjb, on 06/25/2008, -0/+5Read the article in The Australian about this http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197 ... - apparently Google are going to invest in some local servers as well because they're worried about the load of 1.3 million new accounts upon the USAustralia network.
- Karmavs, on 06/25/2008, -0/+5or, more accurately — all NSW public school internet services. They manage the filtering (badly), the connections, the web services, et c.
- lolwutpear, on 06/25/2008, -1/+5Why do this? Any rational student already uses Gmail instead what their school provides, and there's no mention of whether or not this will save the school money over having to operate their own e-mail system.
- verevi, on 06/25/2008, -1/+5You do realize your email hops around various servers you have no control of? It could be archived and indexed along the way. If you are really concerned about this, being scared of Google isn't the answer. Encryption might be, though.
- someology, on 06/25/2008, -0/+4Because it's not just regular GMail, but a school-specific bubble within the GMail universe. You want your professors to be able to e-mail their classes automatically without having to manually set up lists? You want the addresses to be on a school-specific domain? You want your school administrators or help desk to be able to change settings for your users? Etc, etc, etc... these are some of the reasons.
- fakesmiles, on 06/25/2008, -0/+4Yeah, I was there when they started the student beta test. Way better than the Microsoft implementation they were offering. Definitely a good move to gmail on USF's part.
Also, thank goodness for the lack of email outages. That got annoying real quick. - tonyarnold, on 06/25/2008, -0/+3Well, that's fantastic news! If Google can guarantee that our data stays in Australia, they'll have other takers in the education sector on top of the NSW public school system.
- Karmavs, on 06/25/2008, -1/+4The state government runs all NSW internet services, almost.
- PhrosTT, on 06/25/2008, -0/+3My schools webmail sucked ass. It had too few servers so pulling up email took literally 2 full mins. I never used it.
- cdigioia, on 06/25/2008, -0/+3Yeah, because I mean, midget porn is a really common preference. Not really even a fetish, I think. Right guy? Right?
- Atomic1fire, on 06/25/2008, -0/+3its so that it can be branded for that organization
the emails would be under that website not under gmail (and it looks more professional to have an email under your own domain)
Company staff would have more control over the emails and other services
whereas you would have to ask the user on the gmail account for the password and it would be massively harder to manage for everyone because of the lack of control - rmxz, on 06/25/2008, -1/+4And by reading their emails; Google can see which ones are smart; and target their own job offer ads to only the smart ones.
And yes, their terms-of-use lets them do this.
I'll start using gmail when I have a good encryption solution (yes, I realize this has to live in the client and not the web interface) for email that protects my privacy. - itsabrandnewday, on 06/25/2008, -4/+6google can haz everyone's personal informationz
applying tinfoil hat. - cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+2I wish my University would upgrade to Gmail, we currently use something that looks like it was designed in 1992 and have a massive 15MB of quota. I've been using my Universities e-mail address with my own Gmail account though, so I can receive Uni emails through my Gmail account and send them from Gmail appearing as if it were from my Uni account. Still don't see why I have to do all this ***** when I pay thousands of dollars each year; surely tuition fees can buy a few extra HDDs at the data center. Don't even get me started on the 400MB Internet cap we have per semester (15 weeks)..
- izhang, on 06/26/2008, -0/+2I wish UF would do this. They recently disabled forwarding for their damn webmail system so I can't even automatically forward emails to gmail.
- elyobelyob, on 06/25/2008, -2/+4Why don't they just say .. "we are not doing email anymore .. go to gmail and get an account?" That'd save AU$9m ...
Or am I somewhat missing the point? - MtheoryX, on 06/25/2008, -0/+2Who's to say the only benefit is email? There are tons of other apps and services. Perhaps this is the start of Google making its way into higher education in a huge way.
Yet again, another player to watch out for. First Apple in education, now Google. - luchid, on 06/25/2008, -0/+2Yeah "they" really care about your midget porn fetish.
- jimbostyx, on 06/26/2008, -0/+2Sorry, that was me. I pointed out that it was broken from Google Apps and then they confirmed and removed it within the week! Have never seen it since from with Apps.
- Atomic1fire, on 06/25/2008, -1/+3the school is paying google for domain based services (as in the school gets all the services they want to use under their .edu instead of the google domain so the students/staff would go to the schools website instead of google) they get email from google and probably other services
- PL3NTY, on 06/25/2008, -0/+2thanks for your input
- webjoseph, on 06/26/2008, -0/+2Nice. Start them young and fresh - I hope they learn how to use j k o u n p by the time they are out!
- esc27, on 06/25/2008, -2/+3This is all good and fine now, but who can say for sure what kind of company Google will be in the future. Can you really trust a publicly traded company (who apparently never deletes anything) with student's email? On a personal level, whatever, you can read their terms and privacy policies and make your own decision, but in this case, these students don't really get a choice. Their private email will be indexed, managed, and stored by a third party company.
Simple experiment: Replace the word Google in the story with Microsoft. Is that still a good idea? - MtheoryX, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1You're right; you don't get it...at all.
- esc27, on 06/25/2008, -1/+2Of course, but there is a difference between my email being stored here and there (by systems likely to delete it over time...) and all of it being aggregated by a single company (who likely will never delete it.)
- redsoxers, on 06/25/2008, -1/+2My alma mater, the University of San Francisco (USF), just recently made the switch to Gmail.
- Agret, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1http://digg.com/software/Encrypt_and_sign_Gmail_me ...
- Kebie, on 06/25/2008, -1/+2Yeah I don't get who is paying who, it should be like the school doing a Coke a Cola deal. Google should be paying the school not the other way around.
- aaroh, on 06/25/2008, -5/+51.3million pupils clicking on $10 worth of adwords = gmail should be paying the school
- stephenhacking, on 06/25/2008, -4/+3Well one thing which is really good is that they disabled the invitation system about a year ago.
- Karmavs, on 06/25/2008, -4/+3They like to spy on our email.
That's why I never use it. - inactive, on 06/25/2008, -3/+1OK... or they could just sign up to gmail for free like normal people. I don't get what's up with this whole Google Apps thing for organisations. All the programs are free anyway.
- mrgoat, on 06/25/2008, -7/+2Those poor, poor kids. I don't think I have encountered a flakier IMAP email provider than Google.
- kuz2r, on 06/24/2008, -7/+2Get ready for pimpled teens to click on your ads.
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