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- Hydro, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19You people are weird. Instead of acting like Big Brother on your damn children, why not, you know, try to get them to talk to you and open up? Instead of forcing them to be secretive, make it so they don't feel like they're being analyized and critiqued every damn time they talk?
"I'd lock them out of their computer! I'd isolate them and never let them make any mistakes or ***** up at all so when they get into the real world they won't be able to survive!"
Sounds like good ol' fashioned overprotective parenting. Let your children ***** up, be idiots and GROW instead of isolating them in a ***** tower in the middle of nowhere. - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18..or about that 22 year old guy that young 15 year old Jenny was ***** on the bathroom floor before the dance.
That being said, if I were a dad, I'd have some problems with this device. - mattv, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14would it be weird if a 24 year old guy used this?
im asking for a friend. - masterdebater, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18As a parent, if I knew my daughter was pulling this *****, i'd be CMOS locking the computer down and she have to come to me every damn time to turn it on and use it - with me in the room watching - and I'm completely serious. If she really has nothing to hide from me, then why all the secrecy? Unlike parents in this generation who essentially have no clue how this technology works, my generation however, has a clue (or more of one anyways), because were the ones pioneering everything today anyways.
In one line... "My kid doesn't stand a chance." - bruggerA, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7god forbid the parents know what jenny wore to the dance
- redb369, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7http://www.thoughtsafe.com/ThoughtSafe/Home.aspx
- Reaperducer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9What's up with all the blogspam from BoingBoing? Why not post to the actual item, instead of to this blog? This is like the fourth piece of BoingBoing blogspam I've seen today.
- nymphetamine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6ohhh, i didnt even realize it was a usb stick. it looked like something else to me;)
- DarkZen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6First off, this is done EASILY with ANY jump drive i know about.
Second, I agree with those that don't think you should be controlling your kids. My parents tried to be controlling, it didn't work. All that did is make me not tell them a damn thing, any parent that thinks spying and snooping on their kid is going to help them figure out what they are up to is full of crap and needs to reevaluate their parenting skills.
Last, Personal security is a must in this day and age... DIDNT ANYONE ELSE SEE THE FCC TRYING TO FORCE A BACKDOOR INTO EVERY NETWORK DEVICE??? IF NOT..USE THE SEARCH....
If my kid asked me for one of these i would honestly laugh, then i would teach them how to make a better one for lest cost with better protection. If you kid trusts you they will let you in on what they are up to. If you spy on them all the time they are just going to grow up hating you.
(And yes, i do this with my jump drive to keep from leaving tracks on public systems. There is no reason that even a simple cookie should be left over from me sitting down at a computer when im finished with it.) - LexisNexis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Two of my friends:
1. Grew up in a strict mormon household. No caffeine, no swearing, no going out on sundays. The mom was a total bitch and way too over protective. What happened when he turned 18? He left home, got a job at taco bell, bought a $700 car, racked up $500 in tickets, got car taken away from lack of insurance. He drinks every night with friends and sleeps on the floor in his bud's dorm.
2. Grew up with his divorced parents who let him do whatever he wanted. Got gifts for no reason, went out every night, let people crash at his house any time. Turned 18, went to college, is doing great. With all that freedom he not ONCE drank or smoked weed.
3. Me? I'm in the middle, I have a month until I turn 18, and my parents are strict, but trusting. I value my privacy as much as anybody and I don't understand why anyone would want to take away this basic human right from their child.
Oh yeah, and don't get me wrong, both # 1 & 2 are GREAT guys, #1 is just having a really hard time right now. - Justin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Sex-est, If a guy used this he would be considered a hacker and trying to hide stuff. Its a sick world out there.
- achew22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This idea is RIDICULOUS!
check out their password recovery tool. If your a parent and you don't know you kids birthday, 1st pet, and 1st school then you should NOT be reading their diary!
its also ironic that the image below in this almost spells out parent (pa4exte) only off by two letters and the extra one. - hamadryad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Another female, another parent here.
First off, the people babbling about how "ur parents dont no what ur doin anyhow haha" - I'll point out that among the folks hitting their late thirties now are the first wave of "mainstream" home PC users. We're raising the teens now, and some of us are still tech-savvy.
Second, when a kid is legally a minor, his/her parent is responsible for his/her actions. If my minor child somehow ends up owing some institution or another money, I, as his legal guardian, am responsible. It is therefore also my responsibility, as a GOOD PARENT, to keep up with what my kid's doing and with whom he is associating.
Third, my kids are growing up knowing that when they are legal adults who are fully responsible AND accountable for their actions, they can have alllllllll the privacy they want.
Fourth - unless I have reason to believe that they are abusing my belief in their truthfulness, they won't have to worry about me snooping through anything. - mushoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5LOL, all these people mouthing off about how they own their kids and and how they have no rights just crack me up. Reminds me of all those Christian kids who took a Chastity Oath and now are having anal intercourse to remain virgins.
Chill the ***** out people, if you're at a point where you have to snoop on your kids or get medieval on their ass to find out what they're doing...well guess what? You phail at being a parent. Get off your high horse count to ten and start a meaningful relationship with you kids. Maybe just maybe you can gain their trust and when you turn into an old crusty fart they won't leave you in an old folks home to rot. - jpyun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4""As a parent, if I knew my daughter was pulling this *****, i'd be CMOS locking the computer down and she have to come to me every damn time to turn it on and use it - with me in the room watching - and I'm completely serious. If she really has nothing to hide from me, then why all the secrecy?""
Fallacy. - Caio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That wouldn't stop a keylogger :)
- tomkelleher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This, in my opinion is stupid. Yea I think if I were a dad I would rather have an open relationship with my kids so they wouldn't feel pressured to use this kind of thing, but think about it for a second. This could really go one of two ways in my mind, either the kid is keeping things from her parents that she know will get her in trouble, or she writing about a 'cute' pair of shoes she saw at the mall. Also what 15 year old girl could really buy this? Its not being sold at target, and I doubt she has a credit card to buy it on line, so who's gonna buy it? Mom and Dad? Besides I don't know many parents now days that wouldn't notice an odd USB stick on the back, or for that matter find and easy was to go around this thing. Yea I guess I'm being all big brotherish, but in my experience girls who go to great lengths to hide things from their parents, have problems they need to talk about not hide.
- zelig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wonder, is BoingBoing trying to increase their hits (=advertising dollar$) by linking all these recent items in DIGG themselves?
Just a thought. - gnomicide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That's some kind of device, if it allows a child to IM without a computer.
Or electricity.
Or the device itself.
I don't need to read little Jenny's IM, but if I say no IM while you do your homework I'm not fooling. - patrickweber, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Hmm.. Question everyone..
"Supports USB 1.1 / 2.0 maximum speed of 12 Mbits/sec (depending on particular pc)"
If it supports USB2 then how come the maximum speed is only 12 Mbits/sec? - Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2First, if I were a parent, I'd certainly become suspicious if my kid had one of these things. And second, they'd most likely be using MY computer. And I have every right to know what's happening on my computer. I certainly wouldn't feel guilty at all if I monitored their activity with some kind of software.
- Darkmoth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It sounds like half the people giving parents "advice" are kids who have a current beef with their parents. Yeah that's a valid source =P. While "talking to your kids" is a good advice in general, very often your words will flow in one ear and out the other. Teens can be wonderful, but they can also be *extraordinarily* bullheaded.
As far as this device? Beyond the occaisonal over the shoulder peek I pretty much trust my kids. However, were I to find this thing in the house the sh** would hit the fan. It sort of screams "I'm doing something REALLY awful".
Sort of like finding out your husband/wife has suddenly acquired a Mexican passport. That might be innocent, too =) - RadiatedAnt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Lightningrod220 "This would work if anyone actually used MSN.... and I'm not talking about popularity here... I mean the fact that MSN's servers are down more than they are up. And the fact that MSN sucks anyway."
First of all stop posting your BS responses because if you used MSN messenger you would know that the servers are actually up and rarely down. Second of all how the hell can you give you opinion if you don't use the system? assuming you don't since you say it sucks. Unless your just an oxymoron... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you have to rely on reading your daughter's IMs, you've already missed the boat.
- seanabernethie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2one of my close girl-friends is 17 and has just moved out of home because her dad was snooping around her computer and msn logs pretending to be her on msn to extract info from her friends and then the day she moves out i find out that her dad was ***** her so is there any wonder y these devices exist its because some dads are ***** in the head and should be shot
- meefman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1>>"ohhh, i didnt even realize it was a usb stick. it looked like something else to me;)"
err... it comes with a vibrating alarm feature. - otomo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2girl one:And I was like, oh my god jenny, look at her butt.
girl two:no way
girl one:ya way!
I was going to make this long, but honestly, what are they going to need the encryption for? What I just typed was infinitely more legible than any 16 year olds im conversation. - MrMysterious, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ hamadryad, FYI, if you kid (lets say 13 year old Jenny) decides to owing someone money, you are not responsible. A minor is not legally allowed to enter into a contract, and thus they can be dis-affirmed by the minor with a simple letter. The responsible party is the (music club, magazine company, toy store) they illegally entered into a contract with a minor and they are responsible for any damages. Same holds true if a little kiddie buys something and breaks it...they can return it since the act of selling to the minor constitutes a contract, and they are not legally able to enter into them.
Oh, and this stuff works...when I was 17 I got out of paying about $300 to BMG by writing a letter to them. They wrote me one back asking to pay because of moral reasons...I never paid and never heard from them again. - joesomeone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow, you self proclaimed super parents are morons... If you don't give your kid their privacy it WILL bit you in the ass later on. If you stop them from doing something right now, they probably didn't learn from it. They'll just do the same thing anyway when there older and have moved out the house and get in more trouble, especially if they get in trouble with the law. VERY few parents have the technical know how to even spell encryption, let alone crack it. when I was thirteen my parents lock off our family computer with a CMOS password; I had it cracked in 15 minutes. CMOS pass words aren't anything. Windows (especially 95/98/ME) passwords are a joke also. .PAL passwords can be cracked with a calculator using 6Th grade math and the NT/LM passwords aren't much better. There is NO WAY to lock you kid out of a computer. It is literally impossible. Everything (and I mean everything) has a vulnerability of some sort; and windows is like cheesecloth when it comes to security. Every since I was 11 I was dual-booting Linux(fedora) on my parents PC and they still don't know its there. last year when i was 15(I'm 16) my parents took my computer away that I built my self because they couldn't monitor it. Guess what? I built another one. Well I guess I'm kinda rambling, but the point is your kids are smarter than you, and always will be. you may be more experienced and ***** like that but it doesn't matter to them(unless there weird or unnaturally mature.) they will always do what they want and there is nothing you can do to stop them. Peace.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2If a girl (or boy for that matter) thinks they have to buy something like this to hide something from their parents, then they're most likely doing something they would get into a ton of trouble over.
If I found my neice with this thing, there would instantly be a keylogger and screencap prog on her machine and me teaching my sister (her mother) how to use them. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not suitable for jihad... little girls do not require any more than 8-bit encryption.
- FlyingAvatar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1From the article:
"Up to 10 years of data retention"
Huh? What does that mean? I've never heard that Flash drives only work for 10 years. Is that their estimation of it's write failure duration? - irfaan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ummm What 15 year-old has a credit-card or concerned parent that would order this for them?
- I922sParkCir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Children shouldn't need this, they should have an open relationship with their parents.
Children shouldn't have this, if they think their parents shouldn't know what's going on in there lives, maybe their parents should know.
I still believe that most parents only want help and protect their children (I know their are exceptions, myself included). In order to protect (not control) I believe parents should be able to, when necessary, check up on their children's lives.
I have too many friends that were dumb and made bad decisions that their parents could have helped them with. - Jetfire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hydro
"Sounds like good ol' fashioned overprotective parenting. Let your children ***** up, be idiots and GROW instead of isolating them in a ***** tower in the middle of nowhere."
Just remember this as you stand over your child’s grave after see goes off with the 37 year old child molester she’s been IMing.
Yes, Parenting is about teach you child right from wrong as well as how to think for themselves. But is also about protecting them from themselves and others until they can do it themselves. - selphishnerd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3how many girls use digg anyway? don't want to sterotype, just wondering
- mutant, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3There we go, ensure parents have no ability to monitor thier kids, then let everyone cry "WHY!!!" when another Columbine happens.. ***** retarded.
- Muzical84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'd have a major problem if my kids used this. (If I had kids...) A) some pervert could be soliciting them online and I'd never have a clue (nor would the cops if, heaven forbid, my kid actually disappeared.) B) It's another attempt by media to drive a wege between parents and their kids, and having observed it from the "kid" perspective (I'm a 21-year-old girl,) I can't imagine how it must anger and frusterate parents who only want the best for their kids and actually DON'T hate them, contrary to what the kids seme to be getting told these days.
And at any rate, we here are the generation starting families today, and I'd bet that anyone here on digg could find some way around their kid using this anyway. What I DO worry about are the not so tech-savy parents who's kids now have yet ANOTHER way to pull the wool over the eyes of their well-meaning enough yet not necessarily too bright parents. - PenguinX0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Speaking as someone who recently turned 18 and got as far away from my parents as I could possibly manage, I can see where some people are coming from; were I to be without a semblance of privacy in the digital world, I would be more than a little pissed at my parents. Would it be because I wanted privacy to talk to alleged teenage girls in chat rooms? No; I just wanted be able to read back issues of Phrack magazine and glorify Kevin Mitnick in sophomoric web forums without my rather close minded parent's media fueled views biting me in the ass.
However, as much as I may have desired privacy, I wasn't entitled to it. And I shouldn't have been, considering how many retarded asshat teenagers, both male and female, ignore the very real consequences of IMing that "totally hawt guy/ch1x0r," that we should totally go to that alley they were suggesting. Think you deserve to be treated like an adult? Fine; when you get a sodding job and start paying rent, then you have a case, but until then, unless you can prove that you are not another idiot of the MySpace generation, whine on your livejournal, and then shut the ***** up. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Locking down the diary is reasonable. Your child should have the right to privacy in a diary of any form.
But not in communications with strangers. - tardmongerster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I didn't realize so many diggers had all the answers to parenting!
- Muddle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why do pedophiles kill children, because the prison term for pedophilia is slowly rising equal to that of murder. It's a win win situation!
Why are children not subject to the same law as adults, because their brains are immature, they are irresponsible, stubborn, pigheaded and rebellious. That's a lose lose situation.
You let your progeny loose in this world of hard knocks, I'll block one connect port at the firewall and we'll see which kid lives long enough to grow up to be as stupid as you are. - jpenn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Block the port in your router or key log your machine.
- packetstorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sorry folks, gotta agree with "masterdebater".
I didn't pioneer squat but am a programmer/network engineer and there is no way in friggin hell my teenage daughter could engage that crap on MY computer, purchased for her and MY network. Both are locked down like fort knox. Her only hope would be goin to the library, using her friends computer or a mobile device. There are ways to prevent using the USB port and to limit access unless you have admin priviledges. It's not that hard. It's really hacks me off that people think kids know so much more about computers. I do this shiznit for a living I'll match wits with any kid any time any place. - hiro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For any parents who have a problem with their kids getting sucked in by dangerous nutters on the net, try Activity Monitor. Allows you to see their screen, exactly in real time, on your own screen and save logs. Saved my daughter from meeting a 37 yr old "15 yr old" at night. Thankfully he is currently locked up but there are plenty more out there!
- claco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1> If it supports USB2 then how come the maximum speed is only 12 Mbits/sec?
Easy: Marketing. USB 2.0 is the new usb _specification_ version that doesn't always mean a higher speed. USB 2.0 HiSpeed is the the moniker you would look for on the marketing packaging to actualy support the hgher speed rating. Plain old USB 2.0 simply means the device complies with the 2.0 spec, but doesn't necessarily run any faster. - llbbl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1any 18+ girls who read this want something to write about in their secret diary, msg me whoisyourdaddy@hotmail.com . lol :D
- WrecksTXP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No way any daugter of mine will even own one of those.
- bsoric, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For any parents who have a problem with their kids getting sucked in by dangerous nutters on the net, try talking to them. Explain the possible dangers about meeting someone you don't know at night, and they might just listen. After all, there's a pretty good chance they dont want to be abducted either.
Or, if you don't trust them that much, use VNC. -
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