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- MrTulip, on 09/08/2008, -10/+250while the short clip is certainly interesting (i missed that issue completely), the following idiotic drivel nearly made me bury this submission:
"Here's the real deal, though: Germans hate Google because like Microsoft with Windows and Apple with iTunes, its a big American company that's so popular it seems like a monopoly."
srsly. wtf?
germans use as much MS products as anyone (typing from xp) and google is by far the most popular SE.
if that was an allusion to the heavy fines MS had to pay then the author is just projecting antiamericanism where there is none.
next idiocy:
"For those keeping score at home — or trying to use the Web in Germany — that rules out Chrome, Apple's Safari, Internet Explorer and Mozilla's Firefox because it runs on Google money. What's left? The Opera browser, conveniently built in the European Union."
as a commenter pointed out: opera is norway based. guess which country isn't part of the EU.
the rest is presumptuous brain diarrhea that absolutely fails to address the point of criticism made by the Federal Office for Information Security.
better read the linked article (with complete translation) instead of the blogspam:
http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-07-n33.html - RoboDonut, on 09/08/2008, -7/+180Buried because the author's opinion gets in the way of the facts.
- thesparrowband, on 09/09/2008, -3/+103so wait. the german government is actually CONCERNED about their citizens privacy, and you get angry at them.
common, we bitch about the US not giving a ***** about our privacy all the time. i've even seen past comments where people were concerned about Google saving everything because even if they didn't want to give it up, the US gov could make them. Common be reasonable. - Slashered, on 09/08/2008, -43/+141the government shouldn't be telling people what browser to use or not to use
- jimmies, on 09/09/2008, -51/+139People should always listen to the German government. Nothing bad has ever happened doing that....
- spocksbrain, on 09/08/2008, -2/+85I think you have your priorities in life slightly wrong.
- usingpond, on 09/09/2008, -5/+77Wow, didn't see this gem coming at all.
- Fastbullit, on 09/09/2008, -3/+57Idiots. It's a bloody recommendation. It's just like for instance: "Socialist govt. health bureau tells pregnant women what not to eat while pregnant for the health of their unborn baby."
You won't get thrown in jail for using chrome or anything. - shcon, on 09/09/2008, -4/+56Wow... the government is simply saying that people shouldn't use it. They aren't enforcing it. Its nice that their government actually gives a ***** about the privacy of their citizens... Unlike the US, where they've taken away people's right to privacy with homeland security *****. Get over it diggers.
- calicheese23, on 09/09/2008, -1/+44Google Chrome does collect a lot of data
- cadmiumpaint, on 09/09/2008, -1/+40i'm a bit scared of google. With all the personal information they collect and archive combined with their wanting to control all information and the means to access it, the potential for abuse and big brother-ing is pretty huge.
- wontstoptalking, on 09/08/2008, -17/+55I would leave the country if the president told me I need to use Internet Explorer.
- dinostabOMG, on 09/09/2008, -6/+43Seriously. A German politician can't even sneeze today, six decades after WWII, without someone on the internets thinking he's clever with a snide innuendo.
- DigitAl56K, on 09/09/2008, -1/+34"The Government shouldn't tell people which browser to use"
Why not? Think of all the stupid things that the US has done in the name of "national security" that don't have any proven benefit at all. Here the German government actually sees a US company collecting lots of information about its citizens web use and makes a recommendation against it. Seems reasonable. It's not like they're preventing anyone from using it, merely drawing attention to privacy and security issues, and what is wrong with that? - inactive, on 09/09/2008, -0/+28"
- Lazydriver, on 09/09/2008, -1/+26Firefox is maintained by a team of international developers, since it's open source. I would assume a good bit of those are Euro.
- ciaran036, on 09/09/2008, -2/+22As long they are not forcing it. Sometimes governments give good advice to people.
- Hapaxlegomenon, on 09/09/2008, -5/+25... and you shouldn't impose your American conceptions of government on other countries. Man, this sucks -- just everything Europe does different -- not better or worse -- is just labelled "socialism" etc. in the US. That is just plainly ignorant, because both continents have vastly different political cultures. You should also not that (i) it is the very job of the "Bundesamt" to care about browser security (among other things), (ii) it offered a warning, and didn't *tell* anybody to do anything, (iii) it shows that the German government actually is concerned with privacy and security in the internet and the monopoly of Google -- which is not the worst thing for a government to care about.
- digitalpencil, on 09/09/2008, -1/+19yeh, the bit about Norway was pretty ***** funny! buried as over-sensitive BS and thinking everyone's out to get America..
- MicrosoftBob, on 09/08/2008, -16/+33 If you have any futher comments, please call
213-Du-Werdest-Eine-Krankenschwester-Brauchen!!!" - ciaran036, on 09/09/2008, -5/+22They are right!
I was shocked when I logged into my Google account one day to find that they had been recording ALL my searches on Google - and I could see months of my own searches.
They have too much information about us! Between Google search, G-Mail, Google Chrome and Blogger they potentially know every detail of our lives! It can be useful to find information about other people though. Although rather unsettling, especially when other people search for information about ourselves - they can find out everything about us within seconds!
For example, I sold someone something on ebay, and just by putting his username onto Google, I was able to find his Bebo (MySpace equivalent), which included links to all his family and friends, photos, sexuality, spouse, interests and hobbies. Then because he provided me with his address to send his item, I was able to see satellite and aerial photos of his house on Google maps and MS Live Maps! That is shocking!
That's free and easy information for private investigators, government authorities (including intelligence organisations), marketing companies and our family and friends.
Having information available about ourselves and others can be a lot of use for ourselves, and I suppose as long as we aren't up to no good on the internet then we should be fine!
What do you think? - leakus, on 09/09/2008, -0/+16In case you speak German, here is the original article that the newsprogramm is referencing to, that the blog is referencing, which the submitted article is referencing: http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/archiv ...
One of the main points in the article is, that inexperienced user don't know, that google stores your IP address and sites you browse by default. - loves2spooge, on 09/09/2008, -1/+17Your comment being first stopped me from going mental. Thank you for being an internet user who isn't retarded like the guy who wrote that article.
- maybemable, on 09/08/2008, -0/+16agreed. the tone of the submitted blog is bizarrely spiteful. i'm on chrome now but i can see they're legitimate concerns.
although it is a little strange that this monopoly is considered worth condemning when Microsoft's apparently isn't, part of the issue they take is that chrome is in beta. while that doesn't bother me, your average user doesn't know that they're signing up as a bug finder. - chrisbosh123, on 09/09/2008, -1/+15Is it me or does the Google Chrome icon look alot like the "simon says" game?
- thesparrowband, on 09/09/2008, -1/+15common=come on. sorry, typed it by accident
- flarn2006, on 09/09/2008, -0/+13They're just warning them and making a suggestion; it's not the law or anything. They can still use Chrome if they want to.
- Evilblobs, on 09/09/2008, -1/+13It'll be reported via the Huffington Post.
- milkmage, on 09/09/2008, -0/+12Homeland Security did advise against the use of IE6.
- MechanicalZack, on 09/09/2008, -2/+14And the world, too.
- Visual77, on 09/09/2008, -2/+13Godwin's Law! Badabing!
- dinostabOMG, on 09/09/2008, -3/+14Way to not do what you just said you were not going to do.
Overgeneralization and convenient omission of recent history FTL - usingpond, on 09/09/2008, -1/+11So then why should Germany even bother? How many years to shake the stigma? 50? 100? A thousand years?
Most people who are alive in Germany today had absolutely nothing to do with it. - Visual77, on 09/09/2008, -1/+11During his years in Vietnam, he didn't have chrome. He had iron bars and pain.
- HippyInASuit, on 09/09/2008, -1/+11Yeah, man. Imagine if there were government shills all over the news channels and all the newscasters just read the talking points from the country's intelligence agency. I'm sure if that happened in America we would hold them all accountable. Then we'd all have a lolly-pop and look at the rainbows. AMERICA ***** YEAH!
- Darunium, on 09/09/2008, -0/+10+1 for grammar policing
- thesparrowband, on 09/09/2008, -0/+10you don't want the government protecting your privacy? explain
- ajb2015, on 09/09/2008, -2/+12this looks like some kind of fallacy that i should be trying to identify in my logic textbook.
- djphatjive, on 09/09/2008, -12/+22I installed it, said "wow I can't install ad-Block plus, and uninstalled it. Never install it again. Back to firefox.
- ilgaz, on 09/09/2008, -1/+11A 21st century Govt. should be exactly doing that, protecting their citizens privacy and security of their information.
- inactive, on 09/09/2008, -7/+16That $10 is all the Bush admin would spend on anything technology-related that can't be turned into a weapon to fight brown people.
McCain would probably say something like "Chrome? Oh I think it's wonderful, not enough cars have it nowadays! Why, I remember a time..." - Kohaxx, on 09/09/2008, -5/+14the people should be telling the government what browser to use or not to use
- ilgaz, on 09/09/2008, -1/+10Yes, they should be listening to German govt.
It is the Govt. who dared to WARN their citizens about Scientology supporting companies access to all their data, bit by bit in root level. Let me give a clue: Disk defrag framework on win2k, guess who coded it?
US Government couldn't stop their own Microsoft to include it, they could. - silkysaul, on 09/09/2008, -1/+10Why digg him down? He's got a point ;)
- KAMiKAZOW, on 09/09/2008, -0/+9It's not that it's forbidden by law to use Chrome. The Federal Office for Information Security just advised not to use Chrome. It's like advising not to bang your head against a wall, because banging your head against a wall makes your head hurt. You are still free to bang your head against walls. ;-) (Don't damage walls that are not yours, though.)
- ElBeh, on 09/09/2008, -0/+9Slowly?
- afrothunderman, on 09/09/2008, -1/+10I would join the underground force of Firefox users
- Earendil1, on 09/09/2008, -0/+9Schnell!! Schnell!! Wir müssen den Überbrowser erfinden.
- oldhick, on 09/09/2008, -0/+9Your friends must have been high on pot... Amsterdam is the financial and shopping district of the Netherlands. Its is far from unsanitary and the potheads are minority there.
I've been many times and it is an absolutely gorgeous city. I'm hoping you're being sarcastic... - Plasmatica, on 09/08/2008, -12/+20Amsterdam is a city. In a country called Holland. Holland is a socialist haven, where everything is illegal, except for weed and prostitution. It wouldn't surprise me if they started taxing oxygen here.
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