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- zentro, on 10/12/2007, -21/+55Facts:
1. Clinton didn't get called "the worst president ever". And if one or two people did anyway; when did getting af BJ from an intern make someone a bad president?
2. God didn't put GWB in power, Jeb did.
3. You are not obliged to respect someone just because he is your leader. Especially, if that leader got "elected" by cheating. - wannabetenor, on 10/12/2007, -9/+36Well, I disagree. I think that no matter what, at least 50% of the people won't like the president in office....because the country is evenly divided....but when it comes to saying that it's possible that the US would pursue Nuclear Strikes on Iran....I mean, this guy is Nuts. (I used to be a republican, and voted for Bush in the last election).
BTW: by your logic, God also had the power to put Hitler in office.
Just because someone makes it to office doesn't mean God has put him there...it just means he allowed it...along with rape, murder, and all other bad things. - netmancer, on 10/12/2007, -10/+36@joeljohnson: That's the good thing about the United States.. you don't have to respect anyone, even if they're the president. Just like I don't respect you. But just look at his approval ratings.. worse than ANY president we've had EVER. If that doesn't merit the "worst in history" title, then I don't know what does.
- imperiousrex, on 10/12/2007, -7/+30The worst? While Bush's ineptitude is certainly colossal and historians will certainly put him in the top (?) 10 worst presidents, I don't think he qualifies as The Worst President. Most historians regard James Buchanan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_Buchanan) as most deserving of The Worst President title. Letting his country slide into civil war, lacking good judgement and moral courage, Buchanan ranks at the top of the worst presidents in history. Of course, we still have over two more years of Bush, so there's still time to displace Buchanan.
- RobotCitizen, on 10/12/2007, -11/+30The Constitution is more important than The Bible.
Yes, really. - eclectro, on 10/12/2007, -13/+32"God has put him in power.."
I somehow disagree with this. And he has lost any respect I had for him through his lying and incompetence. - eclectro, on 10/12/2007, -14/+31The neo-con interns are gonna step in this thread and mod everyone down. Just watch.
- Zman771, on 10/12/2007, -15/+31"God put him in power"??? Try the United States Supreme Court.
- bluephoenix, on 10/12/2007, -11/+27God has put him in power? wow.........I'm appalled that a human being can be that backwards this day and age. Welcome to medieval America.
- zentro, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22You are right but people seem to like discussing this. Maybe it's time to open a non-tech forum on Digg.
- anjinash, on 10/12/2007, -9/+24I'm sorry, pal... but if "God" put GW Bush into power.. then God is not loving and wise diety we all tend to make him out to be.
The Bible frowns on liars. Bush and his entire administration lied to get us into a war.
Jesus said "Turn the other cheek", the only cheek Bush has shown is his ass cheeks as he craps all over our constitution.
The Bible says to love all and help those less fortunate. Bush has given handouts to his already rich pals while the rest of the country has gotten poorer and poorer, and the job market has declined and declined.
The Bible says to "Love thy neighbor". George Bush BOMBS our neighbors. Then lies about it. Then covers ***** up. Then leaks information about undercover CIA agents out of spite towards a critic of his policies.
Bull-*****-***** God put Bush in the Whitehouse. The Supreme Court, Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris and Diebold put Bush in the White House ... and playing on people's fears KEPT him in the White House. Bush is so crooked he makes Nixon look like Abe Lincoln. - wannabetenor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Ya know, the more I think about this, perhaps the more I agree with you. This is a tech website...and I hadn't exactly thought of it as a "tech" website before...but I suppose it is ;)
I think that it's Digg's editorial process that makes this a "story", ie, no like=no digg.
I'm not advocating submitting totally non-tech stories..it's just that when I saw it, I thought, "I'd digg this. . "
-sorry :) - Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -9/+22I Still stand by the bumper sticker I once saw.
When Clinton Lied, no one died. - lilazndrumrboy, on 10/12/2007, -30/+42yes........yes sir he is.............
- Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -9/+20And yet he will never be impeached...
- person, on 10/12/2007, -12/+23America will be screwed if Bush is impeached. We've got Cheney to look forward to. Might as well face it. We're screwed either way.
- skimitar, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Even though Digg is supposedly a tech website, we're always going to have stories like this getting dugg. It's what happens when democracy rules the website. I agree with p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, there's obviously a demand. The filter is a great idea as well.
On the issue itself and as a non US citizen, I'm no great fan of Dubya. From what I see in the media in Australia, he's not doing the world a great deal of good. But surely, it's too early to be making historical judgements?
Judgements made at the time have a habit of being wrong - no-one has any idea of the long term consequences of GWB's actions - for all any of us know, the man is right and history will bear him out. Churchill was regarded as a war monger by his contemporaries, the fall of the USSR was going to usher in an era of universal peace etc.. etc..
I never thought I'd be defending the man..... - p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Stories like these receive a fair amount of traffic - that is a sure-fire indicator there is an appetite for it in Digg.
Personally, while I like the social/political content, I'd like to have the ability to filter it out if all I wanted to see was Tech-related stories.
We will probably see more varied content (with user filters) in Digg 3.0. - netmancer, on 10/12/2007, -10/+19@joeljohnson: The dude got a BJ!! So what? Stop playa hatin'... Besides, is it really fair to call out his personal decisions (that don't even affect his role as the president) when he did so much good for the country. Hell, at least he can spell W-M-D...
- Alphabet, on 10/12/2007, -21/+30I said it before, and I'll say it again.
Worst. President. Ever. - greenbox, on 10/12/2007, -11/+18around the year 1999 i used to support bush and his ideas. but now he turned out to be the most disappointing thing to happen to my life.
- quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -9/+16"God has put him in power even if you disagree with him on issues he is still your leader and he must be respected"
By this logic, I also have to respect Saddam Hussein, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Kim Jong-il, because god put them in power too. - eclectro, on 10/12/2007, -19/+26How 'bout a "I hate bush" section. I could "digg" that.
- r3aper, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14I'm a Republican and I think Bush is the worst president in the last hundred years.
- blahblah, on 10/12/2007, -9/+16Bill Clinton for the most part had greater than 60 percent approval ratings, even during the 'scandal.' Also, no one complained about the economy. And we didn't go to war for fabricated reasons.
- eclectro, on 10/12/2007, -10/+16There is a difference between badmouthing the president and stating fact. The fact is this president has lied and shows gross incompetence. That's just being truthful and not being disrespectful. I also believe that's why there is an impeachment process in place so he can be fired.
- wannabetenor, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Besides that one night stand that was "less than expected. " :)
- netmancer, on 10/12/2007, -12/+17@joeljohnson: Yes you can change it by voting... right.. That did a lot of good in the last two elections. I don't care what anyone thinks, but he was GIVEN the 2000 election. Hell, he lost the popular vote! Not only that, but the 2004 elections are scared with issues such as misplaced ballots, electronic voting machines, and disenfrancished voters in primarily Democratic areas. People in Florida SAW officials throw away the ballots of African Americans, since they primarily vote Democrat. Don't sit up there and talk about respecting your leader and not talking out against him whenever you feel that he doesn't even belong as your leader. And I'm not even talking about the insane crap he's doing RIGHT NOW.
- tapo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Nope, I'm a Republican and I whine about him too. He's supposed to be cutting the budget and slimming down the government. Instead he spent a good $274 Billion on a war in a country we have no reason for being in, and we're only going to send them into civil war.
Oh, not to mention the national debt is the highest it's been in history.
Now, I'm no Democrat, and I'll probably never vote for one. But I downright hate that man, and he's probably the most incompetent president this country has ever had. Not to mention he has completely ruined my respect for the Republican party. - quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_U.S._Presidents
"The C-SPAN Survey of Presidential Leadership was a 1999 survey of academic historians. It found that historians consider Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, and Franklin D. Roosevelt the three best presidents by a wide margin and William Henry Harrison, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, and James Buchanan the worst."
I'm suprised not to see Richard Nixon. - chapium, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8To be fair, William Henry Harrirson didn't get a chance to prove himself.
- rstevens, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9We need a president that represents the majority people, not the minority rich.
We need a president that serves his countrymen, not secret societies.
We need a president that will be remembered for his vision, not his lies.
We need a president that furthers democracy, not dictatorship.
We need elected officials that do what is right for the people even if doing right jeopardizes their standing in the 4th reich . - Bitgod, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Don't blame me, like the majority of Americans in the first election, I didn't vote for him.
And he is the worst in my lifetime, that's for sure. I'm not counting Nixon since I was too small to know what was going on at that time, so I can't compare. - quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10This was a joke in reference to Bush saying "internets" on one of the presidential debates.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internets_(colloquialism) - anjinash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Atheism is a BELIEF. It is not a fact."
So is Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Budhism and every other religion.
At least Atheists work with facts and science rather than against them. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@eclectro:
Even though revisionist history is all the rage these days, Clinton was never impeached. (see the bottom of http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/impeachments/clinton.htm for details). There were impeachment proceedings, yes, but the impeachment wasn't successful. It's like saying OJ was convicted as a killer just because he went through court proceedings regarding that. He was found innocent. Well, in criminal court at least. In civil court he got pwnt, but that's beside the point. - mrhoaf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4what frightens me even most is that there are knuckle-dragging ingrates out there that think that dubya is the BEST president ever...
- cakefart, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4P.P.S. The state of public science institutions has become so bad, my HMO (Kaiser Permanente) has recently sent out warnings not to trust the information on government information sites, like the USDA and the FDA.
The doggone bleeding heart liberals who run our HMOs!
(FYI, Bill Frist, Senate President, is one of the richest men in America, thanks to his insider holdings of one of the largest HMOs in America, Columbia/HCA) - graywolf323, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I have to agree on this, politics can never be talked about reasonably online
as seen at the end of the Red Vs. Blue PSA - Real Life vs. The Internet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pYrAgHJXUE - mikev, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10No way, you mean a president who cares more about the people of Iraq than the people suffering from massive hurricanes who need food, shelter and clothes is a bad president!?
Good link, can't wait to see the story develop. - mhlester, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@LucianSolaris: You are being modded down not for what you say (well, yes, that too. This site is definitely full of liberals) but for how you say it. Personally, while I am as liberal as the next Digger, I'm certainly open to an honest, civilized debate. That's not what I see from you. From you I see the "yelling" of all caps and exclamation points. When that happens, you come across as childish and asenine, and whatever points you try to make are completely lost. Just my 2ยข. Take them or leave them. I'm not shoving them down anyone's throat.
- Terc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I move to resubmit this article in 8 years. Let's see if it makes it back to the front page
- scrambled, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7And a president whose religion won't control his decision making
- anjinash, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Gee... a guy gets a hummer .... The next guy lies about WMD's to get us into war, STILL hasn't caught the culprit (Bin Laden), TOTALLY ***** up during the Katrina disaster, leaked classified information to settle a political score, allowed torture, and has pissed all over the Constitution.
So, uhm... WHICH one do we try to impeach?
SOmetimes I'm so disgusted with what my country has become. - forumgirl, on 10/12/2007, -3/+61: Your blog isn't interesting to anyone.
2: You're a bad writer so it's charming to watch you criticize other writers.
3: You're from Kentucky, which would render your opinions irrelevant even if they didn't do so anyway on their own lack of merit.
4: The magazine is called "Rolling Stone". The band is called "The Rolling Stones".
5: The South will never rise again. - anjinash, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9"God says we are to respected those that have power over us"
Chapter and verse, pal ... give me a chapter and a verse that says that. People LOVE to "quote" the Bible ... except without the actual quotes or any point of reference.
i.e. A lot of people make ***** up.
Like you. - forumgirl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Prove Bush lied. Remember that a lie is the act of telling an untruth knowingly. The lack of WMD's proves that bush was wrong, as of yet no one has proved that Bush lied."
"We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories. You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said, Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons. They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two. And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." - GWB in an interview with TVP, Poland. (http://www.whitehouse.gov/g8/interview5.html)
Facts are inconvenient. Unfortunately for you, they matter more than your opinions. - NiteMayr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Joel Joel Joel, Shouldn't you be off monitoring ProudtobeCanadian?
BTW, Kings are appointed by god, not Presidents. The American Revolution was supposed to get American away from that kind of thinking. I don't know if GWB is the worst President Ever, I don't think he has managed to kill anyone with his own hands or anything, or inflame the country to the point where someone gets killed over in internally. So, probably not the worst. Maybe, but probably not.
Now, when it comes to blaming the media. With few exceptions the media has been LAX in reporting on Bush scandals, and even then they are easily distracted by sensational stories about X. Take your pick really.
As it is, the media may shape opinions of the Pres, but face facts. No one is fabricating the gross picture. The Iraq endeavor was flawed at first, with poor fore-planning. Actually saying that the media didn't cheer loud enough is a demonstrable lack of memory and possibly a sign of early onset dementia. The media cheer-leaded as long as it could (some still do) but when things are NOT all rosy all over, the media is going to report on the bad and scary, the tenant is "if it bleeds it leads" lets not forget that.
As for the self-defacing tendency to defend Bush or any other president without tempering it with criticism. What the hell happened to you people? You used to look at the Pres and say, "You better do a good job buddy" and now you say "Good Job, can you stick around and tell me what to do more?"
Something is very wrong with some people, worst president ever? No, Worst Presidential Supporters Ever. - wannabetenor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4word.
- Terc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I hope it's still around in 8 years! Maybe wishfull thinking, but I can say this, if Digg is here in 8 years, I'll still be visiting.
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