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- Sazafraz, on 07/11/2008, -2/+40Global Warming, Poverty, Iraq War, AIDS, Deforestation, Nuclear Proliferation, Resource Consumption, Pandemics, Middle East, Africa (Darfur, diamonds, Zimbabwe), Genocide, Corruption etc..
Put all these aside because pirating is afoot - exscape, on 07/10/2008, -5/+36This whole thing is a big fat joke. The fact that it's actually gaining ground is an even bigger one. Not only will they have the legal rights to literally take and *keep* your mobile phones, audio players or memory cards, you have no way whatsover to overrule the decision either. Pretty much all they do is final, period.
(Please prove me wrong.) - mrsteveman1, on 07/11/2008, -1/+29This is why cavemen invented violence.
- Numarx, on 07/11/2008, -1/+25The world is starving and they are working on measures to make sure the richest people in the world, stay the richest. Lets have another $100 plate of food to celebrate, actually make it 24!
- jos22, on 07/10/2008, -3/+26The original meaning behind ACTA was to stop major crimes. but thanks to the RIAA and the whitehouse downloading an MP3 is now also a major crime. IF G8 spent as much time dealing with important issues as they do pleasing billion dollar co-operations. they might get something done for a chanage. Plus this wont change anything. DVD and CD sales wont change.
- inactive, on 07/10/2008, -5/+24Will you morons please stop buying movies and Music already from the AA douchebags. The faster they die the safer the freedom of new media of not just America but also the world. We know the DMCA has given America the AIDS, so stop trying to pass it on to the rest of us.
- SkullyBocks, on 07/10/2008, -3/+20Proposal is on Wikileaks:
http://wikileaks.org/leak/acta-proposal-2007.pdf - greekgoat91, on 07/11/2008, -1/+13I'll ride a Brompton Bicycle, or I'll t-bag a mime
Before I give the RIAA a single *****' dime - Theod48, on 07/11/2008, -1/+12well on one hand I do feel like artists deserve to get paid. It's just scary to think what their capable of doing when they look into peoples cell phones and computers...I think they could give a ***** about artists getting their money, its more about controlling us and the internet. WTF are we turning into CHINA!!!
- blacklilyninja, on 07/11/2008, -0/+11wait..... they wasted their time talking about file sharing instead of feeding the ***** hungry? It takes so much "sensitive ***** ***** to dance around the fact they need to feed the hungry but they just push through this corporate sponsored plan in like one meeting.
proof the government is owned by the corporations and not the people.
everything is a lie. even the cake
maybe ted kozinsky had something
rich get richer much? - moneyries, on 07/10/2008, -3/+13It's going to be like 6th grade math class...teacher takes your disc-man and there's no chance of getting that Offspring CD back either...
- cthulhu4prez, on 07/11/2008, -0/+10Yes, people downloading music is FAR more important than the genocide in Darfur as well as world hunger.
How close this policy comes to terrorism scares the crap out of me. - Ugoff, on 07/11/2008, -1/+9Wow, good work on focusing on important issues. Those damn pirating terrists! Seriously, the RIAA, MPAA, all these other groups can kiss my ass. Infact, I will never spend a dime on CD's and DVD's supported by the RIAA, MPAA, but I sure as hell will continue to buy from independent labels, and support musicians through merchandise and concerts. These groups are digging themselves a deeper hole, and I think once people have their property illegally confiscated (and most likely never returned), more people will boycott these greedy organization, and hopefully musicians will start moving away from the RIAA like Radiohead and Trent Reznor, and many other smaller groups.
- Merennulli, on 07/11/2008, -1/+9The RIAA itself exists in violation of anti-trust laws, has violated laws regarding privacy, personal property, and performed illegal search and seizure in their attempts to drag children to court for their little publicity stunt. While I don't support the anti-Bush rhetoric, enforcing the law is the job of the executive branch, and he's the head of that right now. Why the RIAA is allowed to exist is beyond justification. I wish I could hope that the next person in the office will do better.
- inactive, on 07/11/2008, -1/+9I can live without RIAA and MPAA sponsored content. There ARE alternatives. Keep pushing and we'll just spend our money elsewhere.
- inactive, on 07/11/2008, -3/+10So piracy is more important than the environment....
- ExRe, on 07/11/2008, -3/+9Instead of paying these crooks, buy some munchies with the money you'd spend and just torrent it.
I refuse to support the RIAA/MPAA. If you release your content through the RIAA or MPAA and I want it I will download it because I have no method to purchase it. - NacaV, on 07/11/2008, -0/+6This problem could be easily solved. STOP buying any album/DVD that has RIAA/MPAA association.
- TastyLamp, on 07/11/2008, -1/+7What do you guys actually suggest we do about piracy instead of what they're discussing at G8? All I read about in the digg comments is how the RIAA and MPAA should go ***** themselves; never any sensible alternatives that will please everybody. I love piracy as much as the next guy, but it's not the right solution - it doesn't get money into the artist's pockets.
- Pixelante, on 07/11/2008, -2/+7Yes it is.
- HonoredMule, on 07/11/2008, -0/+5Have you ever watched the documentary series "World at War?" A couple of its episodes focus on society within Germany and surrounding territories, and it depicts an environment where 98% of the public are happy and content even while the war was underway, and even in conquered territories. Individuals were interviewed who never gave their government's/conqueror's actions a single critical thought, or noticed how quiet and careful certain individuals were, until their beloved semitic pediatrician disappeared in a vehicle with official markings, or the like. Then they started wondering why all their friends breathed a sigh of relief that the "monster" won't be able to touch any other citizens' children.
The western world's global recession into corporate-owned/police states will be even more subtle. We'll be praising the construction of the online authobahn and cursing the pirates who seek to abuse or subvert it, while anti-piracy patrols travel it on their way to silence "unauthorized" researchers/artists/innovators.
Yes, I know, Godwin's law. The day will come that my comparison doesn't seem so extreme at all. But at any rate, don't expect to see an outlash in the form of reduced entertainment spending. That industry will thrive to the last. - tiuk, on 07/11/2008, -2/+7*****. This.
- daaaveg, on 07/11/2008, -2/+6step one of new world order: warrantless wiretapping so they can monitor what we say on the phone
step two of new world order: police the internet so they can monitor what we say online - inactive, on 07/11/2008, -0/+4Actually the military created it.
- onizukasuplex, on 07/11/2008, -2/+6those *****
- Tenoq, on 07/11/2008, -3/+7I'm pretty sure US students solve that by bringing a gun to school and shooting everyone.
What? Poor taste? :P - onlyone0001, on 07/10/2008, -2/+6Piracy created the Internet and a big part of today's industry like MP3 Players. Maybe they can gather enough force to stop it, but it will also stop the evolution. Just like what they did with the witch trials.
- exscape, on 07/11/2008, -1/+5I don't care what they do, as long as it doesn't invade the privacy of every citizen, basically removes courts, etc. If they want to search my stuff they better get a damn search warrant FIRST. Now, they won't need one ever.
- wigren, on 07/11/2008, -1/+4I for one have resolved to hardly ever buy media because of their d-baggery. (I'll make an exception for NIN, Radio Head and the like)
- Pixelante, on 07/11/2008, -0/+3You're doing it wrong. You've got to crush the can on the other guy's head. Then you shove it down his throat.
- NikkiA, on 07/11/2008, -1/+4"What do you guys actually suggest we do about piracy instead of what they're discussing at G8?"
Nothing. Nothing at all.
Why?
Because I don't see any RIAA/MPAA execs starving, the only musicians that are suffering, are suffering because of the RIAA. The movie industry is only suffering because of their lack of creativity wrt new movies - come on, the day the earth stood still???
The 'system' is only broke in that the RIAA/MPAA exists, and it certainly doesn't need 'fixing' in their favour. - ortucis, on 07/11/2008, -1/+4If RIAA and MPAA like ***** creeps into East, I am going to actually start seeding what I leech.
Not that I am a dirty leecher who drops out after downloading and all.. - CalcProgrammer1, on 07/11/2008, -0/+3By paying for that CD, you pay the artist a tiny bit of money and most of it goes to some talentless money grabbin idiot "producers" who happen to be part of the RIAA. Supporting artists is great, because artists deserve to be paid. The RIAA does not deserve anything, all they do is ruin our government by bribing the company loving judges and lawyers into pushing these anti-Constitutional intrusion laws so that the big money companies can get even more money. The RIAA isn't even necessary in today's world. Back then, you couldn't mass-produce records or cassette tapes in good quality using household equipment, and editing tracks took expensive equipment. Today, on the other hand, recording music can be done with just a decent PC and a quality soundcard or external input device. Editing can be done using Audacity (a free program) or other relatively low-cost programs. Distribution starts by popularizing on MySpace or YouTube, and then putting your content up for sale on iTunes or independently. You make money without having producers and other people take your money. The RIAA is outdated and unnecessary, they should all rot and die. They are nothing but a problem in today's Internet-driven society and are still stuck in the past where music was actually a material thing and took huge production efforts to make.
- Drexial, on 07/11/2008, -0/+3its not that the G8 is an organization doing this. They are agreeing between the countries that this is now their national policy.
- onlyone0001, on 07/11/2008, -2/+5I don't mean Piracy actually created the Internet. I'm a Comp. Eng., i know about DARPA etc. What i mean is Piracy "made" (contributed) the Internet what it is today.
- NikkiA, on 07/11/2008, -0/+3Didn't you hear?
Darfur was/is caused by Global Warming. ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/jun/23/ ... )
So, politicians that are doing 'something' about global warming can feel all smug and know that they are 'doing something for darfur'. There is no need for them to consider any other action. - exscape, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2Actaully, I think the law was originally designed to stop counterfeiting (like huge-scale piracy with containers full of stuff, and other kinds of fakes, perhaps watches etc). Then the MAFIAA heard about it and said "Yay! Lets join in on the fun and make the world a huge police state!". Something like that.
- ech0419, on 07/11/2008, -1/+3It's from the same basterds that shut down demonoid. The MPAA, RIAA, and the Canadian version of both. Honestly I wouldn't be into computer if it weren't for piracy. Why would I pay $999 for a copy of photoshop when I wouldn't have paid for it anyways.... Just to express my creative side. Screw that I'll use linux if this ***** is passed. That's the legal get-around for all of this. Now they need to find a legal way to reproduce music for free.
- Pixelante, on 07/11/2008, -4/+6Yes it is.
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2Someone's very angry for no good reason.
- GunsGermsSteel, on 07/11/2008, -3/+5I'd be worried, but when was the last time the G8 was able to do anything other than send money to Africa?
- HonoredMule, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2Why do they have to keep pushing? If "we" were willing to say enough is enough, why have "we" still not done so? The time for action began about 5 years go.
- dsmx, on 07/11/2008, -1/+3Only because it something they can change without much effort.
- Ryosen, on 07/11/2008, -2/+4Umm, no... that would be porn.
- laserdisc, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2Typical politics. Your average politician is incapable of solving "REAL" problems.
- t4m5t3r, on 07/11/2008, -1/+3this is not a problem as long as people dont continue on their current lemming like ways, if we just ignore these laws they cant do ***** with them, what they gonna do? improson half the people on the planet? ***** them and their corrupt laws!!
the simple fact these corrupt ***** are discussing BUISINESS at the G8 when half the world is in the toilet shows you the prioritys of these people, the rich, thats all they care about, and i think its about time WE ALL get off our asses and get rid of them ALL!!
If we dont, nobody will, and if you think its bad now? how bad do you think it will be in 10 years time if keeps going the way it is?
they are scum, they realy need to be put down, rigged elections and fake "saviours" arent going to help us, the moneys in control, it has been for years, we all KNOW what is needed, its just a shame the overwhelming majority dont have the balls!! - inactive, on 07/11/2008, -1/+2I stopped buying new CD's probably 6 years ago. If it isn't used I don't buy it. Record companies never see a penny from me. Online I only buy DRM free music. I'm about done with buying DVD's because of this "backing them up is illegal" crap. If I bought it I should be able to back it up just like I do with the rest of my data. I vote with my dollars and so should everyone else. However I don't think people put as much thought or are willing to sacrifice their entertainment like I am.
- HairyFotr, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1They killed the magic in both cases... *badabum tssssh*
- inactive, on 07/11/2008, -1/+2Can't the G8 do something ***** good like creating peace andtackling hunger and poverty instead of attacking the world as we know it.
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