What is Digg?95 Comments
- Skunkhair, on 10/12/2007, -19/+90Looks like someone got OWNED in the long run.
- borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -16/+78I think the Inquirer is "Worthless"
- Cymrubeats, on 10/12/2007, -12/+67erm...10 months later isn't 'the long run'. I genuinely could imagine people getting bored with the digg format, the longer i spend here the more i see the same crap from the same people. There was a time when neowin was all go, but they were doing some sort of 'upgrade' that took too damn long and the opportunity went right past them. There was a time when 'newgrounds' used to be all the rage too, who even goes there any longer?
- Battlecry, on 10/12/2007, -4/+49Actually, if anyone actually took the time to read the article, I would say that he's not completely off base. He was complaining about the fact that the digg algorithm sucked back in december. It seemed that no matter how many people actually 'dugg' the aritcle, with 10 'lames' the article would dissapear.
This is an extension of the problem some people think digg still has today, a minority of the community has control over the majority of the community.
He's hardly been 'PWND!!'. Read the article and think about it. - hertzsae, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35Did you read the entire post? His gripe was that as soon as 10 people marked something as lame, it got completely deleted. I'm sure that this has been corrected by now as that was written 10 months ago and digg has improved in that time. He has a very valid point. If something was posted something that got 10,000 diggs, a group of 10 people could get it deleted. That is not cool.
- LiterateWolf, on 10/12/2007, -23/+51Lame. His submission was buried and now he is whining like a baby. Pathetic.
- Dested, on 10/12/2007, -8/+32...you go first...
- Boor, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27Right now Digg is giving the Inquirer traffic, rather then taking it away.
- rick2k, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26I agree with Cymrubeats
Digg can get boring and die out. i used to find digg amazing but now i find it actually find it more frustrating and annoying than amazing.
I never knew news could get boring. I think this is mainly behind the mass news on consoles and stupid picking at brands etc. The game page is a full page of wii stories half of the time and the front page usually has
1. Sony bashing
2. Microsoft bashing
3. bashing
4. boring rubbish
5. that same bit of news I've seen front pages 5x today.
6. another battery recall.
7. more bashing of something. - jpie05, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Agreed. While I understand it may seem like he's whining, the complaint is a valid one. Does anyone know for sure if digg's policy has changed?
- rm999, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18ive been a member since july 2005, and digg was actually better back then. Comments and articles were overall more intelligent. Now that those mass diggers have been found out and comment ranking was introduced, things are slowly getting better
- victorp, on 10/12/2007, -9/+21err...I hear Fox is pretty worthless
- Clark3934, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20Reported as Lame for ironic purposes.
- ozroy, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19It seems to me that his complaints were all valid. It's just that they have now been fixed.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+19The Inquirer was wrong? No way, they never post anything that's inaccurate.
- Racoon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Digg needs a freaking Windows section !
- Ahnteis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10And yet -- we have had how many major "events" reporting abuse of Digg's front page mechanism? I'm not saying Digg has failed -- but how long before it is a major target of advertisers? Remember the years before everyone was spamming google pagerank? Remember when Google returned super good search results? Now, not too many years later, Google (and most search engines) are under major attack by spammers. Will the same thing, or worse, happen to Digg? That remains to be seen.
Of course, this article does provide a good chuckle and a "na na boo boo!" moment, but Digg is still very young. For example -- Slashdot may not drive more traffic then Digg for the moment, but Slashdot has been around a LOT longer then Digg.
I think Digg's long-term survival depends on continued development and improvement by the dev team (get back to work!). Otherwise, it could well end up as one of the "Web 2.0 Fads" of the 00's decade. =( - danieleran, on 10/12/2007, -9/+17The Inquirer broke off from the Register UK, which is sometimes mildly amusing, but mostly technically inept. The Inquirer is similarly retarded in their tech analysis, but are rarely even slightly amusing.
It specializes in gushing inflamatory sensationalism. - tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Ever since V3 of Digg it has gotten a little worse. I've seen the same story posted so many times already.
- bpapa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Eh, this title is a bit misleading. He's slamming Digg for what seems to still be the site's biggest problem - content posted that is actually totally valid and maybe even great gets buried and disappears when the community disagrees with it. For example, say I wrote, FOR ARGUMENTS SAKE (I have to say that or else this comment will get buried - actually it probably will get buried anyway), an absolutely fool-proof blog entry about how DRM is great, or how George Bush is the greatest man ever in the history of the world. Even if everything I said was 100% factual, well thought out, and entertaining, it will get buried because enough people on Digg will simply disagree with it, mark it as lame, and nobody will see it.
I could see stuff like "old news", "inaccurate", "spam" or such getting marked as 'lame', but too many articles and comments that are in fact quality content get buried because the Digg community disagrees with the author. - addrake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Honestly, I am starting to agree. There is no social discourse on digg because of peoples ability to digg down unpopular opinions. It really becomes a clique of like opinions. The irony of this of course will be when this comment is buried.
- thefirstenemy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Wow, I cannot believe this made the front page. He wasn't saying Digg was worthless, he was saying that the old formula they used for a front story being on the front page was worthless. Did the submitter even bother reading the story himself?
- f00xx0riz3r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Probably not, He was probably to busy wanking off to Steve jobs porn on his macbook whilst listening to some emo-pop on his ipod. Let the negatives fly!!!
- chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9RTFA people
What he was basically saying is that the 'bury' options on Digg are flawed - and they are - because it takes a very small minority to bury an article as 'lame', compared to the number that dugg it, for the story to disappear. - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Yeah... that'll do wonders for Digg's reputation.
- montagg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6He made the front page because the story is interesting, and it's not entirely wrong. However, even though I don't agree with it, I dugg it because it's worth discussion.
- fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I think the Inquirer and Digg are both fairly worthless, but when you're looking for something to pass the time with as little demand on your brain as possible, they're both great activities.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It is funny how everyone is calling digg this huge success. Do you all not remember the 90s? LOTS and lots of websites were far more successful than Digg is now after about 2 years. And where were they after 3 years? Worthless.
There is absolutely NO guarantee that that won't happen to digg. And with each YouTube comedy video that makes it to the front page...turning Digg into MySpace...and every post by OBKenobi, Rhiannon, etc. the possibility of digg being worthless in a year increases by leaps and bounds - wataru, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm 63 years old, and have seen a lot of things come and go. The "perspective" I'm talking about is whether participating in a Web site like Digg is really a cool and important thing to be doing, or just another way of passing time that will fade before long. Yes, Digg is successful in terms of pure numbers, but is it accomplishing anything important? Maybe so, maybe not.
- Cymrubeats, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7To summarise how things are now...the original 'story' got less diggs than a picture of ubuntu wine. Do you see this lasting more than another year or two if that carries on?
http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Inquirer_Hammers_Digg
http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Wine - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6the inquirer is correct.
- chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4100% agree. The problem is, the very nature of how Digg started and who it attracts means that it will likely be that way for a LONG time. Think about who the first people here were - they were mostly people who were fans of Kevin Rose (or friends of fans) which probably puts a large portion of those that came here in the beginning in the 14-21 y/o range, and then a smaller percentage above that age.
No offense, but people at that young of an age find it much easier to bury comments by people they disagree with than to try and carry on a rational discussion. It is what it is. - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Little did he guess how far Digg would come!" --DizzyG
If by 'far' you mean 'much of a bloated blowhard haven', then I think you're right.
His response: http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34592
I wouldn't take alot of what he says seriously (such as calling people idiots every other sentence), but his criticisms are on the mark, if a bit dressed up in a sensationalistic cloak. - slickmachines, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8This would have been a more effective article if there was more evidence to support his claim. Unfortunately, the only examples he chooses to use are his own stories, which makes him sound like he's just whining.
- slashdotislame, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4well digg is annoying. 300kb of junk just to get to a link to get to a story, this is when using RSS feeds.
summaries that suck, bad grammar, spelling, alarmist writing style to get you to click something which you KNOW isn't worth reading but they try to trick you anyway.
it is slashdot, but slightly lower IQ. - smith262, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Kind of reminds me of this digg story http://www.2spare.com/item_50221.aspx.
«Everything that can be invented has been invented.»
Charles H. Duell, an official at the US patent office, 1899. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10Amen, this is grocery checkout tabloid trash, metaphorically speaking.
- itanshi, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9i still think people get inquirer and enquirer mixed up
and maybe he was right back then. lots of updates may have fixed said issues by now or FSM forbid, turned into new issues. - wataru, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7"Little did he guess how far Digg would come!"
How far has Digg come? I'd say a bit more time, and perspective, are needed before we can crow. - Duggy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2funny... it doesn't appear in any dictionary.
- gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes, the policy has changed. And yes, that used to be the policy. The poster of this article forgot to take into account that Digg was already HUGE back then. In late 2005, Digg was probably bigger than the Inquirer. Anyway, his points are completely valid for that time (and still somewhat valid).
- rynoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Looking at a lot of the front page articles as of late, I can't say I disagree with him.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What a GREAT idea! Block that site! That would pretty much PROVE his point that Digg is NOT a democratic site after all.
- gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is innaccurate. Digg was already huge when that was published. He's just referring to the system being broken. Way to put a sensationalist, innaccurate title on a story because you're a digg-whore. I think you just proved the article right.
- vash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Little did he guess how far Digg would come!" --DizzyG
How far did Digg come? What have they done that is so worthwhile, besides show that there needs to be more moderation? - spankaccount, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The Digg experiment isn't over yet - still too early to call in my opinion. It could end up being a Dogg in the long run...
- jdb252, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Alright now that you modded down my comment I'm gonna go write an article about how much Digg sucks.
- gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It does. I emailed them about it a while ago, but they don't seem interested.
- victorp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@lakawak
Was a joke man lighten up, I was just appealing to the Digg masses... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5By "worthless" do you mean more profitable than all the other new networks COMBINED? Because that is what Fox is.
Oh, but that's right. I forgot. Most of the huge ratigns of Fox is from people who HATE them and are just watching to see how bad it is. Riiiiight. -
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