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- timtastic, on 10/24/2007, -9/+51America counts as the world. Look it up it's true.
- ZaNkY, on 10/12/2007, -3/+43Pay attention Folks, doc99's comment documents everything NOT to do in a digg comment (unless you want to get massively dugg down)
1. Admit to being 14
2. Bash Americans (specifically on no decent grounds)
3. Whining
4. Admiting to being 14
5. Claiming that Digg is all American. It's not.
6. Bad grammar and Spelling
Way to go doc99! - Ellsass, on 11/05/2008, -2/+25You live in 35 states?
- LittleDanzig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Nice trick! I wonder how long it will take before the cell phone companies find out about this...
- szembek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Is it news to you that majority rules? You're like that 1 jehovas witness kid in the back of the classroom with his head on his desk because he didn't celebrate any holidays.
- affanjam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Direct Link http://www.grandcentral.com/
- timdt74, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11You have to use the click to call function on their website. This "hack" does work - and that's confirmed.
- matstars, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18I for one welcome our new American overlords.
- oneiroi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9This service isn't solely designed to cater to you either.
I really don't expect people who digg stories to disclose the details of products in their 350 character description. - AggieTales, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Nope, from their site:
"Will GrandCentral always be free?
Yes, we’re excited to say that we will always offer a free version of GrandCentral, even after beta. Our free version will include unlimited inbound minutes, unlimited voicemail (up to 30 days old), and access to all of our core features."
Ok, admittedly they'll eventually start charging for outbound calls(once the beta's over I guess), but inbound will always be free. - FoxtrotYankee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7But, don't you have to pay Grandcentral per minute for these types of calls?
- omokage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Well I suppose this post would really upset all those Amercains living in Amercia.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7T-Mobile has a better vulnerability. You can get full Internet access for only 5 bucks a month. I did this on my SDA (Great phone by the way). All you have to do is change a couple port numbers. Take a look. http://www.gruups.com/tzones/
- oneovernone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Has anyone else noticed that this will also render your cell phone's call history useless? Maybe I'm the only one who uses the history but I like it.
- kcroke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5US Cellular offers free incoming calls. Therefore, you wouldn't have to pay for any calls from grandcentral no matter what the callerID said.
- rickoro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4To confirm what voipdude said I have been using T-Mobile together with Voicestick.com and the result has been unbelievable! I signed up for the Voicestick "Next to Nothing" plan which gave me not only my own local incoming number but would you believe they actually gave me an immediate $5.00 credit!!! No contract No obligation of any kind. I could not believe it!! (I still can't....I don't know how these guys expect to stay in business with this kind of an offer) Next I told T-mobile that one of my Faves was the voicestick number which they gave me for free.
The result is that I have been calling England, Italy and a number of other countries ON MY T-MOBILE CELL PHONE FOR 2 CENTS A MINUTE OR LESS TOTAL! (For T-Mobile it is a local FAVE unlimited call, and Voicestick only charges the 2 cents (actually it is 1.8 cents/,min.) to most anywhere in UK or Western Europe, Canada,Mexico and the USA.
At first I was confused by the term "bridge" since I'm not a Tel-Com maven but after I figured out that it is just another term for dial-around it all fell into place. The only things you have to be careful about are that you MUST NOT HAVE CALLER ID BLOCKED (so that voicestickl knows that it is its ownl voicestick customer calling) and you have to remember to promptly put a # sign after you finish dialing the final destination call number. If you have CALLER ID blocked when you dial the voicestick number, then voicestick will just forward the call back to your very own phone number, and you can get a loop if you use the same phone number to call out that you use to have incoming calls forwarded to. So the bottom line is MAKE SURE CALLER ID IS NOT BLOCKED WHEN CALLING OUT TO THE VOICESTICK BRIDGE (Dial around number).
What is really way coool too is that anytime I want I can change the outgoing phone number registered with Voicestick so that I can use it from my home landline when I'm home and my Cell phone when I'm on the road. It's as easy as 2 clicks at the Voicestick website. Same is true for changing the calls forwarded to you when somebody dials your Voicestick number. It is really so so cool.
So far in 2 months I have racked up 200 minutes of calls on my T-Mobile Phone (mostly to Europe) and Voicestick still OWES ME a Buckl!!.....and NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE FROM T-MOBILE!!
How can you beat that? - voipdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Even better! No web site to mess with, no special codes to dial, works for BOTH out going and INCOMING calls. http://www.voicestick.com
They have VOIP call forward, AND EVEN BETTER a VOIP Bridge. For 2 cents a min out and zero cents in you can have this set up as one of your favs! They give you free a incoming LOCAL phone number. Heck they even give you $5 of free credit to try it out. No monthly fee.
Just set up your cell number in the call forward AND the bridge. When you call FROM your T-mobile to Voicestick it gives you a new out going dial tone (No codes to punch in) and i reverse give all your friends the Voicestick number to call and it forwards to your T-Mobile. T-Mobile treats this as a free call. IN and OUT!!!
I have been doing this for months with Sprint (Get the $5 Sprint to Home feature) - DarknessGP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Bad news is that this grand central is only offered in 34 states... which means I can't use it.
- Cglass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4There are other sites that do this for free as well, if that ever becomes a problem ;)
- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It doesn't work on my VAX either. Should I complain?
- rossmcd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3OMG canned corn, i vote liberal and ur comment totally kicked my ass!!!11!!!!1!!
- neuroticus, on 10/12/2007, -10/+13new?
- sinkemlow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The same concept will work with ALLTEL's My Circle plan, which offers free calls to TEN people instead of five. Where do you think tmobile got the idea?
- kcroke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4How is this stealing? It's certainly "beating the system," but it is not stealing.
You are simply using a service to get an incoming call rather than making an outgoing call. - bdizzlefizzle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3True, but this is the only way to get VoIP for free over a cell phone. Even cell phones that are planned with Skype still require activation (unless you go through a Wi-Fi connection, but then you're not getting true mobility).
- szembek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah, I'd rather pay for the minutes and have the caller ID working properly. Who uses up all of their minutes anyways?
- acadiel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Actually, T-Mobile's WAP gateway proxy (port 8080) can be removed and you will be using the "full internet". I plugged a blank user/password and wap.voicestream.com for the APN into a Treo 650 and stuck a prepaid T-Mobile SIM in it and was able to get to the full web, check my IMAP e-mail, etc.
For more details, check this out:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1012717
Bottom line: Postpaid/prepaid users can disable the proxy to get full internet access on t-mobile without paying the $20. (On prepaid its free, on postpaid, its the $5.99 charge). - Xinareiaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Lame, they don't have it for Idaho.
- Zorlak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Very clever trick. Nothing lasts forever of course, but for the time being - woot!
- klawz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You can use it, just get one in a different area code, T-Mobile doesn't care if the area code you're calling is the same as your phone number or not, it will still be free so long as it's one of your fave-fives.
- vuthy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My boyfriend's mom is always calling us and driving up her long distance bill. I just got a GrandCentral number in her area code that would forward to our home phone. (She's in Boston, we're in Los Angeles.) This is probably the only use I have for this, but it's a pretty good one.
- kingkool68, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You know, I might do this if I used my phone more. Honestly, I don't call enough people to fill up my 5 myFaves slots. Do any of you really talk on the phone so much that this would actually be worth your time and effort?
- senseigmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2so would this be free incoming only?
- NicePaul, on 10/12/2007, -14/+16T-Mobile is available internationally.
You either forgot to mention that this story applies to the US only, or you forgot that Digg has an international audience. - etx313, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I have the alltel circle plan (the original free calling to ten people) that works the same way. I'll give it a shot!!
- Hexxagonal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1+ digg for great service for those who don't have tmobile
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1We're sorry, we don't have any numbers in the 403 area code. Please try another search.
- ZaNkY, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Genius, but the Question is, what does Grand Central get out of this? Just ads? or more? Looks like they plan to always have a "free" version, but their hinting at paid services along the way. And I can't imagine T-mobile just leaving it at that. They'll most probably find a way to block Grand Central.
http://www.grandcentral.com/support - klawz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wrong, actually this is a stepping stone to totally unlimited calling plans coming soon. Just like free weekends and nights edged it way in, this too will become the norm (like on a landline for free unlimited local).
- Beaver6813, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The phone companies will find a way of preventing this thing, they always do so don't sweat about it. People may as well get their chance to use it whilst they can :)
- symalik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1for me the grandcentral number comes up.... the person calling has to call your grandcentral number and the call will get forwarded to you.
Its just that its not the same incoming number every time, like it mentions in the story above. - rtakach, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i tend to agree with him. i've been investigating skype, and they have a deal right now for $14.95/yr (ends jan 31) unlimited calling to any phone in US and canada. You can buy your own phone number for about $33 (the site says 30 Euro) for a year, tack that onto your unlimited calling, and you pay $50 for a whole year for what you get in a month with a cell phone plan.
I've been looking at it so I can get a cheaper cell phone deal since it's my only phone right now. I want to be able to have a "home phone" through skype. Plus it's way cheaper than comcast voip - LaueOfficer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Call someone real quick and give them the grandcentral number to call back
- weirdlookinguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1T-Mobile rocks! I hope Verizon dies a slow, painful death.....
I also agree with hekx, I hope this doesn't kill myFaves, it's great the way it is right now. - NJank, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it's not stealing, it's a loophole. It could fall under the same TOS rule that get people booted for excessive "unlimited" internet usage (abuse of service... impacting the network.. etc.) but it isn't stealing any more than me leaving open a connection for 48 straight hours to any other phone to take full advantage of my 'free weekends' is stealing. You may call it network abuse, but since it's permitted, it isn't stealing.
Now, if grandcentral's picking up the bill, I expect it will get throttled. Or, TMobile will nicely 'ask' them to relay correct origination CID info. - timdt74, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I see that a few people are confused on how this works. I will try to explain it a little better.
First you sign up for a grandcentral account at www.grandcentral.com.
Once you have a Grandcentral account, add that phone number as one of your Fave 5.
Upload your contacts to your grandcentral account so you can use the click to call function from the grandcentral website.
When you want to call someone from your address book, select that contact and click on the call button. It will ask you what phone you want to call from. Select your tmobile phone. Your phone will now ring and it will show your grandcentral number as the incoming call to your phone and the person you are calling.
I hope this helps. - vuthy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Maybe I'm a bit slow... (it's early here still), but how would you use this service to make outgoing calls? I don't understand the issue of "free incoming only?" You get a number from GrandCentral that you give people to call... how would you make outbound calls with this and why would you? Anybody? It's probably on their site somewhere, but I'm too busy cough lazy cough to look for it.
- symalik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i tried this and called, and the number came up different both times. The last 4 digits from the incoming call were not the same. Good idea but not sure if it will work with myFave 5's.
- rwendel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes, actually you do...Click-2-Call is a pay-for service...you get billed at 2.5 cents/min, you just get a free 1$ credit for the free, 2$ credit for the premium, but it is way cheaper per minute than the cell phone carrier rates.
http://www.grandcentral.com/home/learnmore/ - symalik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1no, it will work with any carrier, its just that the submitter wanted users to take advantage off the myFave 5 plan which is only offered by T-Mobile. But grand central can be used with any carrier or even your home phone.
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