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- immatellyouwhat, on 01/09/2009, -3/+33This time the Phone is enough especially since Palm's stock rose 34.5% after the announcement.
- beersk, on 01/09/2009, -0/+22"Mr. Colligan showed off the phone’s sophisticated interface and the way it charges on a special platform without the need to attach a cable."
It must charge inductively? That's a smart addition that I'm surprised hasn't already been implemented in other smart phones... - inactive, on 01/09/2009, -0/+22Well I welcome the competition. I think it will help the other phones become better as well.
- G001, on 01/09/2009, -3/+22Real keyboard, better multitasking, consolidating data from disparate sources, and without taking a step down from the iPhone in terms of UI.
Oh, and cut and paste :) - jcaino, on 01/09/2009, -3/+19I think having a Open Source development platform will be a huge boon to Palm. HTML and Javascript? Sign me up.
- TheBlueVulcan, on 01/09/2009, -3/+17I'm an iPhone user and i'm compelled.
- bradthomas223, on 01/09/2009, -1/+13"There needs to be a really compelling reason to ditch your iPhone"
What?!?!!
AT&T's voice coverage is erratic, 3g is limited, and they charge WAY to much for the data/texting. - specialK16, on 01/09/2009, -6/+17People only stood to iTunes because they had no other option.
If you don't own an iPod and don't plan on buying from the iTunes store, then iTunes is a horrible piece of *****. - inactive, on 01/09/2009, -1/+11A phone is not enough - you also need lubricant.
- notmv80, on 01/09/2009, -0/+10Yes it is an inductive charger...like teethbrush and electric razors
- sockpuppets, on 01/09/2009, -1/+11I pay an insanely low price for my sprint plan. This phone and that plan are going to make me a happy puppet.
- madk, on 01/09/2009, -0/+8The ONLY thing that draws me to the iPhone is the app market. Everything else can be improved upon elsewhere.
- gllopc, on 01/09/2009, -0/+8The articles headline, "For a Palm Rebound, the Phone Is Not Enough", is more negative than the article details. His only point is that wooing developers is an important step, not just creating a nice phone.
- inactive, on 01/10/2009, -0/+7better looking than the g-phone if you want my opinion and the real keys is a plus compare to the iphone. I will probably buy it
- EdGasket, on 01/09/2009, -0/+6When I first read the headlines, I thought oh great, Palm has made another phone with either their crappy OS or Windows Mobile.
This thing blows those two away, and I think it blows the iPhone away too. I, like virtualmode, don't have one. I have a Nokia E71 (a pretty awesome phone by the way), but have used the iPhone in-store etc. From the video demos I have seen online, the Palm Pre looks fantastic. It introduces new UI concepts which make a lot more sense than the Home button on the iPhone. the multi-tasking concept appears so logical and intuitive for this type of device (single-handed). It's no mean feat to make the iPhone UI look complex* and antiquated, but the more I see pics and videos of this, more I think this.
I think Palm may have created the best phone coming to market this year, and more importantly, as an ex- Palm IIIc fan, they may well have saved the company.
*Obviously everything is relative. Windows Mobile and Symbian are more complex/less intuitive than both this and the iPhone. - StigNordas, on 01/09/2009, -6/+12I'm convinced they can pull out a best-of-breed smart phone. But I'm afraid it might be too late. There needs to be a really compelling reason to ditch your iPhone.
- blakemitchell, on 11/26/2009, -1/+7It all depends on how you define too late. Is it too late to be number one or too late to survive? I think this will save their company . THeir may be a few downsides but it is a slick os that will easy to develop apps for.
- Insightful, on 01/09/2009, -0/+6Palm Pre does charge inductively but can also be charged wired via the mini USB connector.
I believe the "hockey puck" inductor charger is sold separately. Maybe one can charged the Pre while brushing and shaving. :) - TriZz, on 01/09/2009, -0/+6Not only that, but it rose another 33% today. I went and bought a bunch of their stock during the announcement, and I'm glad I did.
It says a lot though, usually rumors will boost the stock then the announcement will bring it down...but they've nearly doubled their stock in the past two days AFTER the announcement. This is HUGE for them. - mephitix, on 01/10/2009, -0/+6Honestly, the phone looks amazing. I might be mistaken, but I would say the thing that initially motivates developers is to expand and extend their current devices and applications they like and use everyday. As a developer, I would get this phone and I couldn't wait to start coding apps for it.
So yeah, I think the phone is enough. Now just push the marketing... give us reasons to choose it over the iPhone and Android. - franklymister, on 01/09/2009, -5/+10The developer community seems to be split between developing for iPhone and Android.
Even Windows Mobile, Blackberry, and Symbian are having a hard time attracting talent. I can't see Palm getting far. - vtnerd, on 01/09/2009, -0/+5Sprint? Pass. I had Sprint and they were so horrid I'll never switch back to them. Let me know when Verizon carries this and I'm interested.
- blueaura, on 01/09/2009, -0/+5The title means that the phone itself isn't enough to help Palm rebound, a strong base of developers is also necessary. That's what the article talks about.
- minorthreat, on 01/09/2009, -0/+5the stock had a 40% increase today. I tried to short their it @ 6.22, but my broker said it was unavailable to borrow :(
- urzishra14, on 01/09/2009, -1/+6For me it is enough, I can't get AT&T or T-Mobile in my area.. this phone kicks the crap out of what Verizon offers.. besides SERO + PRE = WIN
- Insightful, on 01/09/2009, -0/+5$30 monthly SERO plan for 500 minutes and unlimited data = me hooked for life.
- clickmyface, on 01/09/2009, -0/+5True, but there is already a huuuge body of people familiar with the WebOS environment. I think that's partly why Palm went that direction.
Besides open source, I don't see a reason to be pulling for Google. I love the open source community dearly, but I think Apple - and now Palm - have proven that open source matters not if your goal is to develop a great OS.
Android has had a year so far, with no noteworthy gains. With a deep pocket like Google's, somethings wrong. - omjeremy, on 01/09/2009, -4/+8From what I've seen, this phone is so much better than the G1 and the iPhone. It's enough for a Palm Rebound if you ask me. I'm finally happy that my contract with T-Mobile ends in June. By then this one should be out and hopefully another Android phone will also be out.
- SouthsideIrish, on 01/09/2009, -0/+4This has been going on for six years. Every iThing killer that comes along has never killed a single iThing. I think this is going to be a great phone, but it is not the next iPhone killer, but does it need to be? I think it is going to save Palm, but I don't think it is going to take any business from Apple, but Microsoft and Google should be concerned, because it is a going to be a great alternative to the Android and WinMo platforms.
And before you digg me down, it is because 3g service is better on Sprint/PalmPre rather than TMobile/G1. - MrBogard, on 01/09/2009, -0/+4I hope I can get this phone on my SERO plan without paying a billion dollars for the handset itself. I'm not sure the Pre is my next smartphone, but there's a lot of competition for WinMo right now. Between WebOS and Android, I'm very compelled to jump ship. WinMo isn't half as bad as people (iFans) make it out to be though, the amount of useful software available on the platform is fantastic.
If you can tether w/ the Pre though, and application development takes off quickly.. well.. they've caught my eye. Plus, for it's time the Treo 650 is still one of the best handsets I've ever owned. - digitalpencil, on 01/09/2009, -1/+5most things can compete with the G1.. Android's a very promising platform but the G1 sucks.
- EdGasket, on 01/10/2009, -0/+4In the MP3 player arena, sure iPod/iTunes is on top and nothing is going to topple that any time soon.
In the phone market, especially the smart phone market, the playing field is a lot more level.
iPhone has a lot of momentum at the moment for obvious reasons (revolutionary UI compared to previous/other smart phones), but I think this new Palm Pre will be far superior. It takes the best parts of the iPhone UI concept (nothing wrong with that, it has always happened) and introduces some excellent new concepts, like the swipe gesture area and the fantastic multi-tasking card concept.
I don't know, it just kinda makes the iPhone OS look a bit Windows 3.1 to WebOS' Windows 95. An extreme exaggeration, of course, but you see where I'm coming from.
Anyway, if Palm can generate the same kind of hype that Apple were able to generate (and reading the tech blogs, they seem to be doing well in the first 24 hours), I don't think Apple can be as comfortable as they were going forward. This could be a real challenge.
Windows Mobile and Symbian, on the other hand, are *****. - cthellis, on 01/10/2009, -0/+4...or your BlackBerry, or that upcoming Android device you've been eyeballing, or riding out your current WinMo smartphone until the next one comes out and you don't have to abandon what you're used to and the apps you've already picked up...
- chadblog10, on 01/09/2009, -0/+4I believe that Palm can make a comeback, as they have a very solid base for an operating system. It is easy to use and I think that they can implement that into a new interface similar to the iPhone's.
It will be very difficult to compete with the massive following of the iPhone, however. It has so many apps and an established following already - mrBitch, on 01/10/2009, -0/+4@urzishra14 RE: "this phone kicks the crap out of what Verizon offers.. besides SERO + PRE = WIN "
The Palm Pre will follow in the foot steps of the samsung instinct in that SERO will NOT be available as an option for it. - factsahoy, on 01/09/2009, -1/+5First off, this "article" is pathetic. It's just a vague general statement with essentially no analysis. What an embarrassment to the New York times.
This kind of product is Palm's ONLY hope, and only if they issue a REAL, full SDK right away; not some half-assed Web crap. The article fails to note that 10-year-old Palm devices still kick the iPhone's ass as a PDA, and developers can't write apps to address that because the ***** SDK doesn't allow desktop apps to sync with the phone (leading some developers to attempt hokey workarounds with wireless or Internet servers.
Palm has an opportunity to present a proper mobile platform, but it is indeed already dead without a full, proper SDK. - DigitalisAkujin, on 01/09/2009, -0/+4So far Palm has done everything right in regards to making the platform developer friendly but the final success of this phone will hinge around the amount of things you can do with the phone. These things are defined by the applications. In other words Palm needs to build a store for applications. That will give it the footing to stand as a viable alternative to OSX Mobile and Android as a platform.
A lot of people are thinking of these products in terms of hardware only but the real fight is over who will set the agenda for the next 30 years in the software department. In the past 20 years we saw Microsoft become the dominant player in the PC market out of a market that had many alternatives (Mac, neXt, SunOS, IBM, etc). The winner tends to be decided by the one that has the most applications in the end. I'm hoping Android wins because of it's openness but right now it could be anyone. - clockdist, on 01/09/2009, -3/+7It can compete with the iPhone and G1. I'm not sure it can compete with the iTunes app store, though
- jcaino, on 01/10/2009, -0/+3I don't care about having an iPhone killer. I just want competition. And a device what *I* need it to do. The Pre looks like it just might do that. And being able to cobble together my own apps with languages I already know is just that much better.
If Google launched a phone rather than just a mobile OS, you might see more interest. I'd buy that. But frankly, I haven't been too impressed with the (limited) offerings of phones with Android. - davidrools, on 01/10/2009, -0/+3PalmOS, WinMo, and Android have an app store called the internet.
- MrBogard, on 01/09/2009, -0/+3@beachtrader: Say what? Link? Sprint needs to keep me on SERO to keep me as a customer.
- shakabrah, on 01/09/2009, -2/+5our crosshairs?
- debtman7, on 01/09/2009, -1/+4I'm with you. It helps that my house is an AT&T dead zone though...
- G001, on 01/09/2009, -0/+3No, thank god. There's no stylus either.
I left Graffiti behind when I first moved to the Treo and never looked back. - mrBitch, on 01/10/2009, -0/+3RE: " ... this is going to be a great phone, but it is not the next iPhone killer, but does it need to be?
I think it is going to save Palm, but I don't think it is going to take any business from Apple, but Microsoft and Google should be concerned, because it is a going to be a great alternative to the Android and WinMo platforms."
Agree on all points. - mrBitch, on 01/10/2009, -0/+3Copying from my earlier reply to your earlier comment, it's interesting that the comments on the article are not happy about the developer platform :
"I’ve been a Palm OS developer since the Palm III, but at first glance, the new Palm webOS doesn’t look very enticing as a new platform.
The problem is the new HTML/CSS/Javascript/AJAX development model that they’re touting, which is completely incompatible with the C/C++ development model that the old Palm OS used. I have a large code base that runs on Palm, Mac, Windows and iPhone — but it doesn’t look like it will run on Palm webOS.
...I don’t think they can really count on bringing their previous developers along for the ride."
and :
"There “was” a very large, very loyal Palm developer base a few years ago. Unfortunately for Palm, they destroyed that long standing relationship they had with their developers by releasing device after device with buggy software...
Many of the developers that are writing successful applications for iPhones and Blackberries got their start writing Palm applications, and I can’t imagine them being interested in going back to developing software for a company that until recently, considered innovation to be shipping the same Treo smartphone with a new color scheme." - dn11, on 01/09/2009, -0/+3so you are saying their is only room for one smart phone for the entire market?? No...
"Gameboy"? is this 1989? If Apple is targeting "Gameboy" this could get interesting... some sort of time warp travel device in the third gen iPhone? - alvinx, on 01/09/2009, -0/+3does yours come with Alt Ctrl Del?
- Fuzi, on 01/10/2009, -0/+3i'm on sero and im worried that they will do the same crap as the samsung instinct where you can only get the phone with the everything plan.
- dragon76, on 01/09/2009, -0/+3All those customers on SERO, which was a way to inflate subscribers to keep investors from ditching Sprint, is the reason why Sprint is in the *****. Seriously, Verizon should just buy them already.
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