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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+49Flock is a Mozilla based browser. They’ve built additional features to the core Firefox code base that make the browsing experience more seemless, including photo integration with Flickr or photobucket, social bookmarking integration with Del.icio.us or Shadows, a blogging tool and a RSS reader.
- Noah0504, on 10/12/2007, -7/+43That's a bad argument. It's like saying there should only be one Linux distribution because otherwise, it will cause confusion among those who aren't "in the know."
- EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Noah0504 wrote: "That's a bad argument. It's like saying there should only be one Linux distribution because otherwise, it will cause confusion among those who aren't "in the know.""
Multiple Linux distributions DO cause confusion among those who aren't "in the know" so I'm not sure that makes it a bad argument. Diversity is the saving grace and the curse of the open software model. - shindig111, on 10/12/2007, -14/+31but still firefox with the appropriate extensions could do anything.... so why do we need flock?
- mobyrock, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18I've been using the Developer Preview of Flock since February as my everyday browser. It's absolutely amazing. Go ahead and call me a Flock fanboy. del.icio.us integration alone makes it worth using.
- WillPate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13If you have Firefox and a bunch of extensions to make it work exactly the way you want, Flock is probably not for you. But don't forget that most of the world isn't on Firefox, and most Firefox users never download an extension.
- Eddible, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I second that, the photo browser is a feature I can't browse without these days.
- inju, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Flock You, Flock Me!
- Noah0504, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Yes, you're right, it does cause confusion. However, it's not good reasoning for only one distribution to be developed.
- LR2_, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Yeah Flock seems very promissing. I am going to jump on the public beta bandwagon and all, but couldn't they have made this into a FF extension? Just asking.
Wait, nevermind. Seeing as to how much work they have put into it; I would make it a stand alone browser as well. They deserve claim on this and making it an extension would not produce any benefits for them. - TheWriteGuy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Mod me down, but imagine if someone creates a Mozilla-based browser that can seamlessly integrate with MySpace...
- WillPate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@ Metal_Guru - We're at the stage where we just want as many people as possible to try it out and tell us what they think. We really do believe that building the best browser will come from having the best conversation with our users.
Take a little time to check out the Flock feature set (the flash videos on the homepage or the tour are great places to start), spend a little time using those features and then compare it to a base Firefox install, I think we do offer something different. I'd love to hear what you think, good or bad. - bradleyland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"but still firefox with the appropriate extensions could do anything.... so why do we need flock?"
So that I can tell my mom to just download this instead of coming by and installing Firefox + many extensions. - EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Noah0504 wrote: "[Diversity] does cause confusion. However, it's not good reasoning for only one distribution to be developed."
It depends on what your goals are. Over the years I've probably tried 30 browsers and wrappers (Netcaptor, Maxthon, etc) and I'm always willing to try something new but I'm not the average user. Firefox is just beginning to show up on the average users radar screen because hear about it over and over again. Finally they think maybe they ought to go through all the effort of finding out what all the fuss is about--and make no mistake: Finding, downloading, installing, and learning a new browser is no small step for a great many people.
If they hear about Firefox one time and Flock another and Songbird the next and Camino the next it's not going to have as much impact on the average joe. I have no idea if the fragmentation of Firefox is a good thing or bad thing in the big picture (or even how you'd stop it if you wanted to) but it *IS* a legitimate concern. - slugicide, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I use PocketFlock everyday. I have since last quarter-uh, months ago. Everyone should give Flock a try.
- RyeBrye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Why link to tech crunch when you can link directly to the Flocking site?
- IcyStorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's back up.
- gincarnated, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Do firefox extensions work with flock?
- magicjj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I agree, I've had the Dev Preview for some time and it's really neat. You should at least check it out.
- WillPate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This is not the correct link. When the site goes live shortly it will be at
http://www.flock.com/download - rmccabe916, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Hmmm... Now that's what I like to see in a browser: plain and simple innovation. I've been using Opera for a while and this seems like a great companion for it on my desktop.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I geuss I will flock to Flock now.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7***** arrington
someone post a new story pointing to the real flock site - dmoney06, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Really awesome browser. Ahead of FF, Safari and Camino just in the dev stages.
- HolyChimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I tried Flock a few months back with my failed attempt at bloggign. I got bored of blogging so Flock became kinda pointless. I'll give it another go. Maybe it'll rekindle the inner blogger in me.
- yottabite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Somehow WillPate got modded down...
What he's asking isn't the world.
I for one will try Flock, as I'm sure the rest of you will someday too.
The truth is this: if I an get the "ultimate" browsing experience without installing about 5 plug ins or addons to Firefox, why not give it a whirl? - danielrobinson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I've been flocking since February. Integration with del.icio.us is very tight and the feed-reading capabilities in the most recent build are what I've been looking for ever since I first switched to FF.
- flypcide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+36pm pst now and I don't see it...says it will be available at 3pm pst up above.
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Anyone who wanted flock before probably already has it.
Although as much as I didn't see the reason for the buzz before, I will try it again as I see so many other people liking it.
Ah ***** it. Dugg. - aeroplanedigger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I use the latest daily build of Flock as my default browser. I enjoy the rss aggregation most, though the blogging features are really nice. it is amazing that Flock is so stable even pre-beta, and I use the advances builds and rarely experience bugs.
- danakin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Most do, they just simply have to have one or two lines of the installer changed from basically saying "Firefox version x.x.x" to saying "Flock version x.x.x" It's a really easy thing do do, and there are several ways to do it. The best way will be to upload and convert it on Flock's site (the feature isn't up right now on the extensions page). You can also use a tool called Flock'd, which one of the community contributors made (Flock'd can be found at http://outraged-artists.com/flockd/). Or, if you have a little time, you can just take apart the extension and change the install.rdf yourself.
- WillPate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Flock was "developer preview" before today, essentially an "alpha" product. We think today is the first day it deserves the "beta" label - but hey, you tell us!
- Poco, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5What the flock?
- WillPate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ Metal_Guru - The short answer is "yes", but with some caveats. Most extensions, save those that deal with bookmarking and search (because we're doing it our own way with those for now), should work with Flock. It's easy for extension authors to make Firefox extensions work in Flock.
http://wiki.flock.com/index.php?title=Modify_Firefox_Extensions
The new website has a directory of about 130 working extensions. In a little bit, we'll be turning on our extension converter that will let you upload your favorite Firefox extension and convert it to being Flock compatible. We want more Firefox extensions to work in Flock so bad that we've actually hired a few summer interns to help us QA them, among other things. - jinexile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Its the placebo effect or you have mucked with your firefox settings (ie. via fasterfox) in hopes of speeding it up previously and made it actually slower.
- dkarlson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Seems faster than FF 1.5.0.4 (completely unscientific testing, too!)
- IcyStorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Heh, Flock just went down. I hope they upload it soon.
- igraham09, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11@jimmygoon
"now its a competition between firefox/opera/ie6/netscape/safari..."
wtf are you talking about; Netscape SUCKS - m99stump, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3I love the idea of flock, but Camino absolutely smokes FireFox and Flock on Mac in speed and feeling like a Mac app.
Maybe when that fabled cocoa version of firefox comes out, flock can pick it up. Or maybe Camino will add features like this themselves. - mahemoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Flock's existence really owes to the fact that the Firefox extension mechanism is a geek-only feature. At the end of the day, you could achieve the same as Flock and a lot better, by installing a bunch of Firefox plugins. The problem is, most user's can't do that.
What Firefox needs to do is what most plugin-based apps do: release a standard distro which includes a stable combination of goodies. It's no good saying "you can block ads", "you can have powerful tab manipulation", etc if most users have too much difficulty - or don't even know it's possible - to install the plugins.
http://www.softwareas.com/flock-a-tribute-to-unusability-of-firefox-extensions
For example, Eclipse is a heavily plugin-oriented framework, but they don't say, "Let the user download the Eclipse framework, then all the plugins to code in Java"...they instead provide a nice, clean, package that bundles the plugins in with the framework. - igraham09, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i'm using it now, and it doesnt keep bookmark folders in the bar like Safari does, you have to like switch between which bookmark folder you want to view
that the only really bad thing about it IMO
[edit] it also just freaked out at the digg count down thing (you know, for editing your comments that you make) - danakin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Type about: in your address bar and you'll see all the info you need:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060612 Firefox/1.5.0.4 Flock/0.7.0.17.1 - Metal_Guru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ Willpate - sure, and I do like it as I said. Just hasn't been strong enough to convert me. But I will give it another try.
Another big issues is extensions... can Flock take Firefox extensions? If not, then that's a big reson to stay with Firefox. I checked the Flock extension page and it seems to hint that will be the case... right - BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So in other words: no, firefox extensions do not work with Flock.
- danakin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://flock.com/extensions is the new link for the extensions catalog.
- seventoes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2just because you havent heard anything about it doesnt mean its dead, ive been using it as my main browser since they first released the developers preview v5.15, and trying out the daily builds. I absolutly love it.
- Skeuomorph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21. Flickr integration is superb
2. MovableType setup fails (Yahoo's Movable Type 3.2ysb5-20051201, works from Digg, Flickr, etc.)
3. Very slow to start compared to FF (even though I have a dozen FF extensions)
4. Flickr integration kicks ass
5. Easy to add Flash, Adblock, etc., and nice portal to simplify adding extensions
6. Grandpa says, "Tagging is counter-intuitive, Search is scary, New Tab button is missing"
7. Did I mention Flickr?
(Posted from Flock 0.7.0.17.1) - seventoes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2right click on toolbar > customize > drag any button, including new tab, wherever you want.
- Lobster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Flock is very different. In the early days I used it for a few weeks. Being based on FireFox 1 it was very stable and seemed very intuitive. The new version needs work on the interface. It is a browser not rocket science - and I am even more stupid than the 'average user'
Image support is good.
http://i5.tinypic.com/149wggk.jpg
I would like tinypic support
It did not work with my wordpress blog (which is not hosted by Wordpress but on my own server) So maybe that will come.
I would like more online resources support for example some of these type of services
http://tmxxine.com/Wikka/wikka.php?wakka=OnlineResources
I am glad it is using yahoo search but would suggest an AI engine such as brainboost.com
My main browser is SeaMonkey -
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