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- DavidMA, on 10/12/2007, -11/+63A smoking section in a restaurant is like a peeing section in a pool.
- elsnow77, on 10/12/2007, -8/+50+ digg for gettin kids smokin' while they're young!
- joelhardi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29The Flintstones was a primetime show, for adults. Kids' shows of the '60s pushed stuff like sugar bomb cereal and GI Joe, not smokes. Neither one is healthy, but it's not like Winston was pushing cigs during Saturday-morning cartoons.
- Juano11, on 10/12/2007, -20/+46You have never, not once, been forced to sit in a smoking section in a resturant. You were always free to leave.
- krigney, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24"You Bet Your Life!" Dugg just for that quote
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24And to think that you can no longer smoke in NJ bars and restaurants as of yesterday. Times have certainly changed.
- chrisutley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22The Flintstones ran for six-years in Primetime on ABC. It was not a Saturday morning cartoon - think of it more like Simpsons for the 60's.
- nvpham, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17For some reason, I feel like having some Winstons
- CosmicJustice, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Ok boys and girls. The Flintstones was targeted at adults. It was modeled on the Honeymooners (Jackie Gleason). It's so very easy to be critical of things you don't know anything about. While people did smoke more in the early sixties they where less likely to park the kiddies in front of the TV all night.
- ,,|,_, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15 joelhardi is right, The Flintstones wasn't a kid's cartoon.
- MacGyver, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Thats crazy how widely accepted smoking was back then. As they say, ignorance is bliss.
- kanned, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17SMOKE!
Are ya smoking yet? - doant, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Flinstones Winston.sounds kind of the same. Ah wel I am amazed by this. You found a beautiful piece of modern history. remember kids smoking is bad for you only cavemen like to smoke
ps the spell check is broken. - Vesty, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11i thought it was funny how the pack was like, a magazine cut out, instead of drawn into the show. Looks out of place, but I guess they didn't care
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16Juano...and smokers have never..not once...been forced to not go to a restaurant just because they are smokers. They can smoke, or they can go to a restaurant. They have that choice.
People who can't be around smokers don't HAVE that choice.
Don't cry about poor smokers losing rights of their choice. Becuase it just isn't happening. They can still do EVERYTHING they want, as well as kill themselves from the inside out. They just can't kill me alongwith them. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14legalize tobacco!!
- greenbox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10how would the hanna-barbera cartoons of today advertise smoking? oh man, i would love to see a billy and mandy version.
- dnder, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10hmmm, but painkillers is to kill PAIN!!! Painkillers are meant for the specifc purpose of aiding people in pain. Does smoking get rid of your pain? Well I guess it kinda does considering that you are addicted to it adn can't function without it, but's it's your own stupid fault to begin with.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10yeah.. like on a sauce pan?
- MyNameIsFred, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I would bet that "look" was a deliberate decision -- 1) to make the product stand out in the cartoon (which obviously worked) 2) to make sure the product image isn't changed (i.e., customers know exactly what the pack looks like).
- OrangeTide, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I'm glad someone brought this up. A lot of parents would not allow their children to watch simpsons, let alone stay up that late. At least until the show changed it's format. when the birth of Pebbles the show changed it's format and dropped most of it's adult humor.
- Miyazaki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Well, don't move to Austin, cause you can't smoke in bars or restaurants down here now either.
- OrangeTide, on 10/12/2007, -13/+19it's almost always the other way, the smoking section fills up and the smokers are forced to sit in the non-smoking section (where they cannot smoke).
- j0keR, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Hey kids! Let's all get together and smoke some Winston brand cigarettes and then go down to the Winston cup Nascar race!
- northerncomfort, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Actually, I can control myself fine. I enjoy cigarettes. I enjoy having them during meals. Keep your preachin' and praisin' to yourself- trust me, I know the harms I'm doing to myself and I also know how to respect the wills of non-smokers- if somebody has a problem with it, I either move away from them or I put it out.
But nothing bugs me like somebody coming over to me and telling me I've got some sort of stupidity that should be outlawed. Do you really need that self-validation? Or are you just an all around grouch? - SCARECR0W, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14Excellent.
HB = sell outs.. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I used to watch the show a lot, and to me it seemed like the cars ran on their own once they got momentum or something. The feet were just used for getting up to speed.
Why I know this, I have no idea. D= - apflwr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I'm in my mid-thirties and I can remember when it was completely acceptable to smoke in offices, movie theaters, malls and even planes. (Yes, you could have been stuck on a transatlantic flight between two chain smokers. And I was.)
I'm glad it's not legal any more and that society';s attitudes have changed-- but it is kind of scary that somour collective minds can be changed so quickly, to the point where now we can't remember a point in time when lighting up a cigarette in piublic was as natural, normal and acceped as drisipping on a cup of coffee. - OriginalGamer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4With all the problems Americans face today, I'll take a few primetime cigarette ads. Atleast people weren't eating themselves to death with fast food back then.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+18I'm glas I live in NY. We haven't had to put up with that for 3 years.
and... D14BL0...wrong. smokers have the choice to go to arestaurant and not smoke, or to not go to the restaurant. But...they DO have the choice of going to the resturant. People who can't tolerate smoke (asthmatics, etc.) don't HAVE that choice if smokers are allowed to smoke near them.
It really is ridiculous when you think about it. Smoking has been banned indoors in many eareas for years. Why is the one place that places still allow it near where other people are EATING! That should have been the first place to ban it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Except you might want to bone up on your education before correcting others.
The Flintstones is ONE program Singular. Therefore The Flintstones WAS is the correct phrase.
The article is not talking about the charcters, they are talking about the show.
Think about it. Would you say "The Flintstones is a show about Fred and Wilma, and their neighbors Barney and Betty." or would you say "The Flintstones ARE a show about..."? Obviously the first one is correct. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I recommend the movie 'Thank You For Smoking'.
Its very funny, saw it yesterday. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Smoking makes you look and feel ***** cool, if you're gonna be a pussy and bitch about "2nd hand smoke" then you really need to ***** die...
- norbiu, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14Wow, I'd like to see the Powerpuff Girls puffing on a pot some day.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Yup...it is a problem you idiot. Smoke all you want. Don't do it in public near me. If you are so pathetic that you can't regulate your body without chemicals, then do it at home.
That's OK though. You won't lvie very long, so we won't have to put up with your ignorant asinine comments. - felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Qtip, get a life and quit sticking your nose into other people's business. No one tells you to stop masturbating, so quit preaching at me about smoking.
- bieber, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Personally, I've never considered ingesting poisons to be very relaxing. And I can guarantee you you didn't either, the first time you tried it. The only reason you need cigarettes to relax is because your body is dependent on them, not because they're particularly enjoyable (as any non-smoker who's had to walk through a smoking section will tell you). Mayhaps you should keep your propaganda to yourself.
- zweben, on 10/12/2007, -20/+24Really? Nice! Sorry smokers but I hated choking every time I was forced to sit in a smoking section of a restaurant.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8"...like Simpsons for the 60's."
still, even though the show is primarily targeted towards adults (pfft) how many kids watch and love the simpsons? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7You can still smell it in the non-smoking section. Also the non-smoking section is always smaller. I hate people standing by the door as well smoking, there you have no choice. That should be illegal, especialy in public schools like my college, but you have people at every door, and as many as 30 at the front main door between classes, smoking. There is a place and time for it, and it shouldn't be in a common area. The whole point in making people go outside is so it doesn't affect people who don't like it, but right at the freakin door isn't following the point very good.
Personally, I think a private owned bar, restaurant, etc, can make up it's own smoking rules. Quit pissing the non-smokers off with the smaller sections, the fact you can still smell and see the smoke from them, and that you have to walk past smokers to get in, and they wouldn't be in this situation. Telling a non-smoker it's their fault for going to their favorite bar or restaurant is ignorant. I've never seen a completely non-smoking anything, except maybe the grocery store. Still got smokers standing outside the main door though. So I guess it's my fault for even walking on the same street as someone who decides to light up? Why can't it be their fault for walking on the same street as me? Why do we have to adapt to the unatural and amoral that is smoking? The natural, and more healthy choice is non smoking, so if adapting has to be made, that is the logical route.
As for the flintstones smoking commercial, I'm disturbed... - felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@paradizelost--
Yes, smoking in public is noticeable by other people. Here are a few other things that happen in public, and affect those nearby:
Cars: I hear them, I smell them, and they block me from crossing the road when on foot.
Pedestrians: They block me from crossing the street when I'm driving.
Garbage trucks: Terribly loud, always banging around in the morning. Seem to enjoy blocking the road when I'm in a hurry.
People drinking alcohol: Drunk people tend to talk to me, and invariably end up spilling a drink on some part of my clothing.
Fat people: They're everywhere, clearly a public health risk, raising my insurance rates and generally being a bad influence on the children.
Talking: All over the place. People just talking away in public, subjecting me to their conversations, opinions, and sometimes spoiling the ending of a book I was reading.
Dogs pooing: I'm constantly on the lookout. Public hazard. Flies, stinko, slippery whatsit.
Jehovah's Witnesses witnessing: Leaflets everywhere, people in cheap suits judging me on the sidewalk, and then the leaflets end up on the ground, litter all over, next thing you know it's more garbage trucks...
My point is, lots of things happen in public, that's part of living amongst other people. Once you decide it's ok to stop me doing something just because you don't like it, why can't I stop you doing something I don't like?
Soon we'll all be carrying five hundred page booklets of things we can't do in case it offends someone else.
If you don't like smoke in a restaurant, let the owner know. Tell them you'd prefer to patronize a non-smoking establishment, then take your money there. Same goes for bars, buses, casinos, whatever. Just quit acting like the government exists to cater to your whims and you're the only one who matters. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It wasn't supposed to be subtle. It was not product placement. This was not part of the actual plot of the episode. This is what commercials were like back then. They didn't have commercial breaks as we know them today. The actors (in this case the cartoon characters) would be the pitchman for the sponsor.For example, Johnny Carson would finish up interviewing a guest, and then he would "throw it to Ed McMahon" who was ready to talk about the latest sponsor.
- Drull, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8SMOKE
- Glidedon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Smoke if ya got 'em
- brianmost, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"I'm amazed that no one has discussed the advertising part of this, as opposed to the tobacco part."
Anti-smoking isn't done being one of the groupthink cause celebres. It's programmed. A lot of folks can't help but react once the herd tells them to react. It's funny how the same people who call others fascists for some things are willing to impose so unconditionally with other things -- though that really goes in both directions. - richIsBored, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I smoke and I agree, it is a pointless habit but what's with the negative attitude towards those of us who've made a bad choice? As if anyone here can say they've never made any mistakes in their life.
Smoking is now treated as if it were in the same vein as shooting up heroin. And while in a lot of respects it is, let's not forget that cigarettes themselves are legal and just a few short years ago they were peddled on television and in magazines just like all these anti-depressants and boner pills.
Like any addiction there seems to be this misconception that you can just quit and everything will be as if you never smoked in the first place. But that's not true. Even if you successfully quit, the addiction haunts you for the rest of your life.
Now, I accept responsibility for my actions. I was my choice to smoke that first cigarette. And I have also quit numerous times. But so long as the product is legal I'll never escape exposure to it. I'll forever have a monkey on my back.
It's just too easy to hop on over to a 7-11 and buy a pack. There's no other drug on the planet that's as easy to obtain. Every street corner has a dealer. - SmartBeaner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Getting...craving...to...smoke...
Must...buy...Winstons..... - krewemaynard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4selling out? how about paying the bills? back in the day, it wasn't as big a deal as it is now, and it kept the lights on in the studios.
"selling out" becomes less of an issue once you move out of your parents' house, sell your che shirts, and start paying taxes. :) - raccettura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not suprisingly R.J. Reynolds is the same company behind Joe Camel.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -19/+22It was your choice to go to that restaraunt in the first place. You chose to sit in the smoking section, as opposed to choosing to leaving the facility. Don't blame the people around you for your own personal ignorance.
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