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- chrisnixon, on 10/12/2007, -33/+126This is really annoying. I don't really want a Yahoo account. I can't find a decent user name for Yahoo. When I first read your story I wasn't really bothered...but now I see the reality of the situation, I'm pissed off.
- wirah, on 10/12/2007, -7/+83It is.
Google Accounts aren't loaded with bulk - c6mjohn, on 10/12/2007, -30/+106I don't understand where all the anguish is coming from. From what I have read the only thing that will affect the majority of people is that a Yahoo program will now require a Yahoo log on. You aren't required to use their e-mail or other services. I get the feeling that these "old skool" users want to continue the feeling of being part of an exclusive club more than anything else. Color me confused.
- gungaroo22, on 10/12/2007, -17/+77@ gardnmi
So is almost everything else on the internet. There are alot of free things. But when you are forced to resign some control over something you love, naturally you won't be too happy. If Digg did something like this, you wouldn't be too happy. - littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -19/+79Leave it up to Yahoo to take something good and fu-k it up. Yeah, yeah, it's free. So was Netscape and Napster. The number of people using free applications sure made a lot of people a lot of money. In fact, it changed the world.
- mathew_bug, on 10/12/2007, -6/+61Yahoo! has bought flickr long time ago. I really don't understand why everyone is all pissed off about.
I own a flickr Pro account and I am "old-school", the only thing different now is that I have to login using Yahoo instead of my email.
Oh, and for those how are complaining about Yahoo email address, if you have read the email (or news) properly you've realised that your old email will be set as the default email anyway. Nothing changes except for the login.
About the contacts and tags limits: aren't 3000 contacts enough? You have to be more selective in your life if you have more than 3000 contacts, or you'll end up like "Tom" in "MySpace" (100000000000 friends but keeps in touch with 10 and has met 2 of them).
Tags? Why do you need more than 75 tags, really? Tags work as a whole so you'd better use "digital still camera" instead of wasting 3 tags on "digital", "still" and "camera".
Be more selective.
Last but not least, the author of the blog and digger is Zooomr's CEO (flickr's wannabe direct competition), so bury this story. - strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -1/+45Welcome to the Internet. This appears to be your first day.
- KevinWhite, on 10/12/2007, -4/+46Written and dugg by the CEO of Zooomr??? Give me a break....spam
- kschlatzer, on 10/12/2007, -27/+68I won't be renewing my pro account.
I won't evangelize Flickr anymore.
I won't link to Flickr anymore.
I don't need Flickr.
Flickr needs me. - 5ampl3, on 10/12/2007, -7/+45@gardnmi
Well it seems you don't use flickr as a Pro account do you? its sure as hell not free... I sure wish i did not have to get a Yahoo ccount when i signed up. - NickyBatts, on 10/12/2007, -11/+46Did somebody call the whaaabulence?
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38It was pointed out by other users below, so I felt it appropriate to post the same up here so people are aware of it - the submitter (and blog link) is the CEO of zooomr, a Flickr competitor. Whether you think this is overstepping the boundary of self interest or spam is up to you, but bear it in mind.
- grahamcase, on 10/12/2007, -6/+38@gardnmi
If I was a pro user, I would be pissed off cause I was paying for one service, and then they go and change it on me. And I would have every right to be pissed off.
As a free user, I can decide to migrate to another free service that is not making stupid decisions about how it treats its users.
The thing is, with pissed off paying users, and free users leaving, Yahoo's Flickr investment becomes worthless. To Yahoo, the reason they bought it was for the users. If they piss off paying and non-paying users, the lose those users and any revenue they would have brought in.
Yahoo risks losing more than they're taking away from the current users of Flickr, so it's not just annoying, it seems like a bad business decision. - accesory, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27I had to "integrate" my flickr/yahoo accounts last night. The process was really easy, but it's going to be a big hassle in the future... That's what you get for sticking with a service since like day one....
- bloobloo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25And what do you have to say to the people who DO pay?
- woxidu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26Quick! Dial Whine-One-One!
- UMDWei, on 10/12/2007, -13/+35It's funny.. people complain if it's Yahoo! or Microsoft... but if Google merges Blogger and their many other services to a Google acct, people think it's more convenient.
- Grossinm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+193000 Contacts, 75 tags per image. If I had nothing else to do (IE JOB), and got erotic pleasure from tagging photos, I'm still not sure I would reach those limits. As for moving to a yahoo account, I'm sure chrisnixon8478 is available.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25Good for you.
Finally, someone who takes action rather than blathers about. - JoeCotellese, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19I was an early adopter. Upgraded to a Pro account and have already migrated to the yahoo login? It doesn't seem like it's really that big of a deal.
- Miso117, on 10/12/2007, -8/+24My girlfriend uses Flickr, she emailed me 20 minutes ago bitching about these new "enhancements".
The kicker is she pays for Flickr-PRO, I wonder if she will renew next year...
The way of the world - Pay More / Get Less - - simpleid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Well, I'm entirely unaffected. I guess I'll get back to work now.
- phlyngpngn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Agreed with the notion that these people complaining need to grow up a bit. 3000 contacts is a lot... anybody who's dropping 2000 contacts isn't likely to miss any of them very much. Anybody who's tagging photos with 75 tags needs to lay off the cocaine. Bitching about these limits is silly. At first I was sort of alarmed at the changes, then I realized it's just people moaning about having conceptual limits that they don't likely meet anyway.
Next, I took a look at Zooomr for a scond time. I remember when it came out. I got an account and all that jazz. For the record: it's slow. Their response times left the biggest impact on me when they released, and it seems like nothing has changed. I'd login to see what all is different and better than Flickr, but I don't have a reason to wait all day. How's that for a limiting feature?
I'm a flickr pro user and will continue to be. - chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Because then Yahoo can leverage Flickr in their other services - by having a unified sign in, people can post photos to Flickr and easily use them on a Yahoo blog or whatever.
- thomashawk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17undersky, I have only a single digg account. I've had many things dugg about flickr in the past including a story last week about the ten best hacks for flickr that *praised* flickr for their open API and talked about all the cool ways you can use flickr. I use flickr every single day and have spent thousands of hours on the site both before and after joining Zooomr. I've been quoted in the mainstream press about Flickr, included in a book about Flickr, etc., etc.
I joined Zooomr because I saw a lot of things that I thought Flickr was doing poorly that could be done better. (I haven't made a nickel off of Zooomr yet by the way, I don't collect a salary and I've funded the co. out of my own pocket). I was equally critical about Flickr before I ever joined Zooomr (just ask anyone who spent time in the Flickr Central forum and used to listen to me bitch about no trackbacks). I have been one of the most very active Flickr amongst the Flickr community since very early on. I've both praised them for what they've done right and criticized them for what they've done wrong.
Even though I work for a competitor, I still love and use Flickr every single day. I've faved over 18,000 photos on the site. I've posted over 7,000 photos on the site. I continue to use it and love it but simply because I happen to work for a competitor doesn't preclude me from expressing my dissatisfaction over this move. I'm going to have to dump 40% of my contacts on Flickr, an open social network that I've invested thousands of hours of my personal time in. I'm sure if you were in my shoes you'd feel upset about this too. - strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Don't diss the C64. It can handle anything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64 - simpleid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Shut up, it's funny watching people get worked up over meaningless things. If you help them they stop getting angry.
- gungaroo22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11If you want to deepen the lance in Yahoo's side, join Google's web album service. It is actually really nice, and has a handy program for your computer as well.
http://picasaweb.google.com/home - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16Why do this? Flickr's a decent service. Best not to piss people off like this, theres a lot of good photography via Flickr, would be a shame to start merging it with Yahoo more and more.
- chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Can anyone summarize the new limits? I know that Yahoo said from the beginning you would eventually have to merge your account. Here's an idea for the whiners that can't find a name: just add 'flickr' to your current name.
- spyd4r, on 10/12/2007, -4/+131. Sign up for a new account at yahoo.
sweet my new account name is sw33tbu773rfly23211232313@yahoo.com
wtf... make us use a 1000 year old service where every user name is taken..
greeeeeat. - milkham, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16I'm an old school flickr user with a pro account and i don't want another throw away yahoo account ugh!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9photo sharing site.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -14/+23Not to mention, that without a broad user base, these companies would make no money. So, the "shut up, it's free" argument doesn't hold much water. If providers of free content don't satisfy their customers, they will die... or, simply merge with some faceless monolith that doesn't have to provide decent content, because the brainless hordes will utilize their services due to lack of knowledge about alternatives... So um.. yeah, I guess I just out-argued myself there. Content usability and quality don't matter - name recognition does.
- kiseki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I hate to break it to you but flickr names are entirely separate from the yahoo account. The thing that changes is you login with the yahoo account instead of your email. Your flickr links are all still the same.
This is just a lot of meaningless whining on something they explicitly said they were gonna do 2 years ago. - ramunas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Come on, who needs more than 3k contacts anyway?
Or why would you need more than 75tags per photo? - DoctaStooge, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11@ 5ampl3 & grahamcase
Wouldn't this move (and maybe the merger also) have violated some Terms of Service that you have to agree to when you sign up as a PRO user? If it does, then I would think PRO users could get their money and pictures back without any financial cost. I ask because I don't use Flickr and have no idea how the membership works. - doocefan, on 10/12/2007, -10/+18We fear change. Adapting is hard. Let's all go extinct already.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@mentat
"Now, I'm being forced to give up my personal moniker, and have to hope, and pray, that some one else hasn't consumed my nick?"
Your life is in real turmoil... I'll pray for you too brother - chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Same here - I already had a Yahoo account from WAY back (really, who doesn't) and couldn't care less.
- drjekelmrhyde, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Big whoop just make a dummy yahoo account and dont use it is it that ***** hard seriously
oh but I will only have a maximum of 3000 contacts and 75 tags give me a break - mattverso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I've used Flickr almost since the start. Today, I merged my account with Yahoo. So, I sign in with my (not used anymore) Yahoo login. Big deal. Flickr still emails me to my preferred mail address (not Yahoo), the site is still the same as it was, all my contacts, tags, sets, etc are the same, the API still works, the image links on my blog are the same, I can still post pics from my phone, etc, etc.
This seems to be whining for the sake of whining. As it says in the Flickr help pages, "This doesn't affect anything other than the username and password you supply when signing in: most Flickr users use Yahoo! IDs and everything works the same way."
95% of Flickr users already use their Yahoo ID to sign in, the only people whinging are the people who thought they were part of some exclusive "club" by still using the "old-school" sign-in page. - paulmdx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I'm a long-time user of Flickr and converted my account today. Lucky for me I already had identical account names for Yahoo and Flickr. It was very quick to do though, so no complaining there.
Even if my account name changed my internet-facing web address would not have changed, so as far as the internet at large is concerned there's no difference.
Flickr has been excellent at remembering me signed in, so to be honest I hardly have to perform the login process anyway. If this continues most users will hardly notice.
In summary: stop whining. - johnnyrocket, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Too bad, should have registered with Yahoo early, all the good handles are taken. You can always get xyzqxr021312, that MAY be available.
- amsoell, on 04/20/2009, -9/+15Oh please. Your girlfriend has had over a year to migrate her Pro account over to Yahoo's system. Since pretty much the day after Yahoo bought our Flickr, they have offered two ways to log in: with your Flickr ID or your Yahoo ID. They have also warned, since that same time, that users would have to integrate their sites shortly. I don't think a grace period of more than a year is unreasonable.
And on the note of the integration, which I did over a year ago, it was the easiest thing in the world. Takes all of 2 minutes, and the end result is just that I have to use a yahoo ID to log in instead. I'm not forced to use their email, I don't have to use their IM program, and I don't have to agree to receive any spam from them. - anonatron, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Similar thing happened with the acquisition of gamefaqs, nobody was happy about that either. I guess that is the problem with big business buying the sites we enjoy, they screw a lot up. Let's hope everyone stays away from digg...
- gummih, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Here is a flickr group that opposes the change
http://www.flickr.com/groups/flick_off/
1400 members - courtarro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I'd be willing to bet that most of those complaining have already been 'paying for things'.
- M15anthrope, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Written and dugg by the CEO of Zooomr??? Give me a break....spam
Why has it taken this long for some one to point this out? That was the first thing I noticed. - superstewy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I agree! I didn't get the exact user ID, instead of superstewy I made superstewy_flickr but who the ***** cares? Flickr remembers my user ID, so I never have to write it, and your user ID in actual Flickr doesn't change, so whats the problem?!
Oh wait, this is the Internet, I guess I should stat whining. -
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