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- Beautyon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31Imagine a time before Skype launched, and someone, upon hearing their plan, saying, "Kazaa is cool but this time they are up against Sprint, AT&T, BT etc".
These guys are dealing in disruptive technologies. They can compete and destroy anything that came before them, no matter how big it is today. Just because somehting or service is the dominant player now that doesn't mean that a good idea cannot take over the market in a very short time. - alanspach, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24yes, there were almost no car chases :)
- jarofclay, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16These guys never fail to dissapoint in delivering some interesting technology.
- fitzfan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12"Never creating a company that makes money for anyone but the company creators".
Why would they try to make money for other people? I save money by using skype, eBay thinks they will make money off Skype, so i dont see any reason to complain. - jlunski, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12If they can provide high(er) quality videos than You Tube and Google Video I'd say they'd have a pretty good chance. Personally I can't stand to watch more then a 5 - 10 minute clip on either of those sites because the quality is usually so low.
- bhorst, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11More interesting than YouTube, Google Video, or the other website-oriented video sites is Democracy Player, a tri-platform GPL-desktop video player and video podcast receiver app.
http://www.getdemocracy.com/
To me, this is the disruptive one. If Zennstrom and Friis can compete with Democracy Player, then they'll be on to something big. (But it's totally Free; can they compete with that?) - Darq1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11It's businessweek.
- diggAddict, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6All I can say is 3 words ---------- NO DRM PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!
- jo42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4> distributing TV and other video over the Net
It already exists. It is called "BitTorrent". - lambright, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6This is good news, because three weeks ago, I decided to cancel my cable service, tomorrow is the turn off date, and I have to say, I’m apprehensive about going TV/Cable free. My reason to cast off Comcast. My cable bill including cable modem, basic cable, including comedy central, “e” channel and the DVR service is running us $128 dollars, up from $85. unlike most people I’ll admit, its about the money. I just don’t feel I’m getting 130 bucks worth of entertainment; come on the average hour of TV programming has 22 minutes of commercials. If I wanted commercials, I’d subscribe to ad age.
- Terc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Articles like this are the reason I visit Digg, thanks so much for a great read.
- agimat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Kazaa and Skype was mentioned in the title in relation to Niklas Zennstrom and Janus Friis being founders of those services.
RTFA. The article was not about who/what was first with regards to Kazaa and/or Skype. - thatbox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The title is referring simply to these two fellows' projects, not any sort of general P2P history or timeline.
- peeloo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Get it today with open source: http://www.getdemocracy.com
- inveterate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I agree that Democracy is an interesting concept - but I also agree that if it has no content worth watching it would be easy to compete against.
The short history of public computing is full of instances where the best technology lost to better marketing - Lotus 123 vs Excel is an excellent example. - snooo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Democracy Player is a great idea, but its all video blogs and the like... Nothing seriously worth seeing. No must-see-"TV"...
- chazzzzy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Isn't that more like 5 words? Just giving you a hard time! I TOTALLY agree.. there are business models that don't require DRM.. I hope these guys use one of them.
- Feanor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4This is pretty exciting, these guys excel at making ideas turn into a very viable reality. They could be much more productive if they didn't have to avoid certain authorities though.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As of this posting no-one here or in the article seems to have mentioned the obvious guess at what exactly it's likely to be. Given these guys backgrounds I reckon it'll be legal TV/film/video clip based file sharing, something which Google Video, You Tube etc are not doing, given they run off banks of servers. It's a great solution, if that's the case. File sharing is the future of the internet - legally with the proper people getting some money. Technologically it's the only sensible way forward.
In a sense, Google are already using 'old tech' as they run their own banks of servers. If Google wanted to be really clever they'd shift what all their servers currently do onto all their user's (i.e. website visitors) PCs, and give them a small cut of adsense revenue. Now there's a business model worth exploring in the future..... - terminalpariah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.veoh.com/ is the corporate version. YouTube-quality if you just surf the page, or full-quality if you join the P2P network and help shift bits.
- RADicalSatDude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1These guys Rock! They were probably responsible for developing NAT Traversal too, according to Steve Gibson. All the best to them, More power to fresh thought!
- sbostedor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't like submissions like this. The article is pure conjecture, has no quotes from the actual developers, no real facts, no time line, no concrete evidence that this is even being worked on.
I've seen far too many editorials like this preach that something cool and new is around the corner and end up being needless hype.
Let us know when the technology is available. I don't care that it's being worked on. That does nothing for me. - macewan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'd even be will to watch commercials if their was streaming shows on sites like youtube.com or blip.tv although I'd rather have it on the decmocracy player.
- inveterate, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Sorry - wrong thread.
- strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6"Serial entrepreneurs" is a euphemism for "Never creating a company that makes money for anyone but the company creators".
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Now if it had been Wired Mag...
- Aewheros, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2It might not be Zennström's and Friis's fault but when you think about it, Kazaa is malware loaded crap while Skype is closed standard idiocy. Which is sad, since the concepts are fundamentally brilliant. Well, I guess money is to blame for that... as always.
- strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2What _viable_ company have they started?
- JoeyDeacon, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2Kiss ass!
- Billkamm, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1FIRST KAZAA!?!?!!?
How about first Napster! - mighty_mouth, on 10/12/2007, -19/+8But this time there are up against Google Video and YouTube.
This should be interesting... - mxpxpx, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2that story was dry and was very boring to read


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