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- endlessoul, on 10/07/2008, -1/+37The title inaccurate. The ALPHA builds of Firefox mobile will be released in a few weeks.
This a far cry from a usable, stable public version. - michaelphw, on 10/07/2008, -1/+29Will Apple allow them to release it through the App store?
Not if the 'functionality' is already there... unfortunate for us :( - digrboi, on 10/07/2008, -1/+19eagerly awaiting Firefox Vs Opera on the mobile front too...more competition can only mean more benefit for the consumers :)
- Tarnum, on 10/07/2008, -5/+23"Mozilla Firefox will not be coming to iPhone and Android, ever. At least, not as things stand."
Translation: AAPLe and GOOGle will not allow competition and protect their mobile ad-related revenues. - MoeMoeMoe, on 10/07/2008, -5/+22AAPLe and GOOGle, the stock codes morans.
- alibanana, on 10/07/2008, -3/+19And yet it will be available on 'evil' Microsoft's platform =] Boo to Google and Apple.
- koswix, on 10/07/2008, -3/+16And yet it'll likely still be more stable than Pocket IE :D
- IHateRegisterin, on 10/07/2008, -4/+16Any moron who calls someone a moran has a problem.
- Easyoffbam, on 10/07/2008, -1/+12Ad Block Plus, yay!
- mynameistux, on 10/07/2008, -0/+10I hope its a hell of a lot lighter than the normal version.
- bonez56, on 10/07/2008, -2/+12FF with Windows mobile FTW
IE on WM6 is a piece of *****. - hardeep1singh, on 10/07/2008, -0/+8Don't worry Firefox would be rejected by AppStore because it can smarten up the iphone.
- DBeta, on 10/07/2008, -1/+7Actually, the Android browser can be replaced as easy as IE in Windows. The Android Market Place does not set limits on things like browsers. It will be Mozilla's choice that prevents it from hitting Android, not Google's. Google has made it very clear that they simply make the OS, and don't feel the need to stop users from doing whatever they want.
As for Apple, yeah, they're dicks. - tange1, on 10/07/2008, -0/+5Firefox was made for windows mobile awhile back, it was called Minimo - I was on the project. It fell on its face and development stoped. This article doesnt seem to be clear as to how this project is different from Minimo.
- MalDON, on 10/07/2008, -0/+5Yea. The TOS prevents anything from running interpreted code. I think it's silly.
- hardeep1singh, on 10/07/2008, -0/+4Sell the iphone and Get Nokia Tube. Voila.
- Theli, on 10/07/2008, -0/+3The reason Firefox cannot be directly ported to Android has nothing to do with competition (Firefox's default search engine is Google, remember?), but that Android requires its third party applications to be written in Java.
Full quote:
"For the iPhone, Apple’s licence can not install software to have an interpreted language. But Firefox includes JavaScript, which makes it legally impossible to carry on the iPhone….For Android, Webkit is integrated into the OS, and only Java applications can run. And Firefox is not written in Java. So that’s why [Fennec will not run on Android]. However, in both cases, things may change in future, but it does not depend on Mozilla." - corsairstw, on 10/07/2008, -0/+3Would love to see Safari have some competition on the iPhone. Is it against the developer agreement to develop browsers?
- MikeSobe, on 10/07/2008, -0/+3It's good for checking some quick mobile sites such as ESPN, weather, NJ Transit / Metro North. Have you tried Opera Mini for your BB yet? You'll probably find it to be more what you are looking for.
- jsmithers, on 10/07/2008, -4/+7For all those in the US, who don't realise Windows Mobile is derided as really-not-very-good in the rest of the world, if FireFox Mobile is not released on Symbian from very early on it will be an automatic fail. I realise you good folks in the US don't really get or understand Symbian (or S60 as it's known on Nokia phones) but it's the world leader everywhere else, and has over 50% of worldwide smartphone market share, vs. around 10% for WM.
Expect to see FF Mobile have precisely zero impact outside the US, if it's not released on Symbian/S60 from the start.
And before anyone mentions Android or iPhone - how many Android phones have been sold in the world? 0.00 And how many iPhones? 15 miilion? And how many Symbian phones? 227 million across 249 different phone models, by end of June 08.
Nuff said. - silkysaul, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2Android isn't even out for mass consumers o.O"
- HonoredMule, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2The Java-only sandbox is why OpenMoko is more important than Android, and may even overtake it some day.
Only very limited innovation or improved system utility can be gained without full system integration of 3rd party software. Right off the bat that guarantees that 3rd parties can't "fix" anything the core OS team got "wrong," be that wrong in the form of poor design, incompatibility with a user's usage patterns/preferences, refusal of the OS-team to implement certain features, or intentional sabotage of ability to use a device in certain ways that potentially reduce profitability for someone. - specialk2hz, on 10/07/2008, -1/+3PIE is stable it just blows :)
- psykiv, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2Although the latest blackberry 4.5 browser is ages better than the 4.2, it still sucks.
- TwenT4, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2Released in a few weeks, but they haven't even announced the supported platforms...? Sounds a bit 'cloudy'.
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2Good thing I live in the US and not the rest of the world.
Why are you telling Americans that they should expect poor adoption in the rest of the world? How does that effect THEM directly? - Seann7656, on 10/07/2008, -3/+5Sweet! I cant wait to install Ad Block Plus and FasterFox
- mooninite, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Symbian
Keep on tabs with the Symbian build there. - skyshock1, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2*WM6 is a piece of *****.
Fixed. - skyshock1, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2I don't know dude, the webkit based browser included w/ Symbian is pretty feckin' great. It's the same engine used on the iPhone's browser and Google's Android as well.
- danielhoerr, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2QuickPWN > Installer.app/Cydia
It'll be there... - SSUK, on 10/07/2008, -2/+4*IE is a piece of *****.
Fixed. - etx313, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2Opera Mobile 9.5 is really really nice.
- kayjay, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2i like opera mini on my wm6.1 smartphone. it works fast on gprs even! it uses a server connection that downscales images, etc.
try it out.
why is everyone hyping FF so much? opera isnt that bad. - jamshid, on 10/07/2008, -0/+1This could be huge, assuming they can reduce Firefox memory and cpu usage enough for a mobile device. FF ad-ons would be especially useful on a mobile device, reformatting pages or adding functionality/usability.
Yeah, Apple is evil for not allowing Firefox on the iPhone, and Google is evil for their ***** more-open-than-thou claims, when they don't allow their browser to be replaced. - Atomic1fire, on 10/07/2008, -0/+1Pie as in Pocket Internet Explorer
Not π
or pie as in what you eat - antiver, on 10/07/2008, -0/+1IE and WM6 are both pieces of *****.
- hardeep1singh, on 10/07/2008, -1/+2Its been more than an year Opera's been teasing us Symbian users about Opera Mobile 9.5 but haven't delievered anything as yet. Thanks to firefox we don't need it now, they can stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1Opera Mini isn't a browser. It's a stupid web portal that disguises itself as a browser. All Opera Mini does is let some external server render the page and send images to your device. NOT a browser.
Opera MOBILE on the other hand, it's made of pure awesome. Especially the new 9.5 beta 1, it renders pages on your device, has iPhone-like grab and scroll, is very fast, and renders pages nearly spot-on to how desktop would render it.
I also like Minimo 0.2, it renders things well and fully supports JavaScript (even complicated stuff like highlighting, frames, dynamically changing elements, etc, I found an interactive periodic table online while doing chemistry homework and ever since I've been using it as a JavaScript test for everything I see).
Opera 8.65 also works with the Flash 7 plugin, though not well. Opera Mobile 9.5 will work with Flash as well. - WickEd101, on 10/07/2008, -0/+1This will be a great test for Mozilla. There's only so far you can go in a market where you fix something that was ridiculously broken to start with. Introducing FireFox to a world dominated by the redundant IE was a logical move. I'd like to see how FireFox Mobile compares with Nokia's own relatively good attempt at a browser, admittedly dubbed "Browser" - and I too subscribe to the notion that any browser with the word 'browser' in it can't be that good. But the whole Internet experience with it isn't too bad, just like Apple's Safari on iPhone. Whether FireFox can come up with a feasible alternative for users on these devices is going to be the next big thing for them.
- dasunst3r, on 10/07/2008, -0/+1BlackBerry support would be nice too.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1IE may be awful, but Mobile IE is 10 times worse. Mobile IE is like IE4 without whatever features IE4 had. WM6/6.1 is OK though, as long as you use a good browser (Opera Mobile 8.65/9b are good, Minimo 0.2 is nice, can't wait for FF Mobile).
- Suneet67, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1ITS ABOUT ***** TIME-- THE BLACKBERRY BROWSER SUCKS
- aaronmcdonald, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1getting kinda old now.
- Fergy, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1To get to run Minimo on the phones then they would have had to disable javascript. Mozilla didn't want to do that. Smartphones these days are much more powerful and are able to run the same rendering-engine as Firefox3.x with full support for javascript and extensions.
- CLShortFuse, on 10/07/2008, -0/+1Leaked betas of 9.5 have been available for months and the public beta has been available since July
Get a clue
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/ - hardeep1singh, on 10/07/2008, -0/+1I already have a clue, I'm talking about Symbian.
Get a clue. - CalcProgrammer1, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1The iPhone has a nice browser. The real need for a new browser is Windows Mobile. Microsoft hasn't even touched Pocket IE since at least WM2003 and looks absolutely pathetic compared to any "modern" mobile browser.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1Opera Mini is lame. It's not a browser. Quit confusing browser with server portal. Browsers RENDER PAGES. Opera Mini says "Hey remote server, render me " and then displays it on the screen.
Opera Mobile, however, is an awesome BROWSER. Especially Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta, that thing is amazing. - CalcProgrammer1, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1You didn't put enough really's in there. I downloaded it yesterday and WOW! IT'S REALLY REALLY REALLY INSANELY AWESOME.
Ok, well, it's nice. It runs FAST compared to PIE and Minimo, renders pages nicely, has super smooth scrolling, and supports a ton of pages. It doesn't have the JavaScript support that Minimo does, but for basic browsing you don't need that. Plus it will eventually support Flash. -
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