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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -16/+90Know what would speed up digg? Reducing all this bloated javascript and advertisements, voting effects... etc.
- h00ligan, on 10/12/2007, -7/+64run adblocker plus and stop whining.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27Actually the snarky comments are what making coming into these threads worth it. So much witty banter.
- growlzor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23Great more add ons to fuel my addiction to Digg
- Chingmiester, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Maybe I'm alone then, but I'd rather read about the articles, not the people posting snarky comments about everything.
- javip, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21booted out every 2 mins? 10 secs to load?
what u talking about
get a better pc and stop using dial-up =) - fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15I'm on 1024/256 cable and digg feels like it's dial up. It's the slowest site I use by far, and I've used it on dozens of different connections spanning 6 countries, 3 laptops and 1 desktop, not including what I've used in internet cafes.
It feels like I'm being served fresh copies of every file on every page view instead of having them cache. - fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14I wish digg only took 10 seconds to load.
- ahill7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@chingmiester (#6314854)
I think that's the "social" part of digg. - Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Great stuff. Now make me an extension that makes pages with 100+ comments load faster.
- kday, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12"It is hysteircal that the average Digg mocks Myspace's code, when Digg's is FAR worse."
Uhhhh.... yea... nice statement you just pulled out of your ass. You probably don't have a clue about HTML, JavaScript, or the interweb. MySpace code is about as bad as it gets. Digg on the other hand isn't perfect, but it is very semantic and accessible. To get rid of the 10 errors listed, digg would have to remove 1 character from their web application code (an extra quotation mark).
Digg.com - http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdigg.com%2F (Failed validation, 10 errors)
MySpace.com - http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fmyspace.com%2F (Failed validation, 291 errors)
And those that say digg is slow because of the bloated javascript.... not really true. While I agree that a lot of the javascript is bloated, most of it gets cached. The inline javascript that doesn't get cached mostly ad-related. As long as you have a cache-enabled browser, the javascript won't have to load on every page load.
That being said, I still think that someone needs to clean up the javascript on digg. If Kevin or anyone else reads this, you REALLY need to look into using a compression tool to compress your javascript. It only takes a few minutes, and you will save loads of bandwidth. You could use a tool such as Dean Edwards packer ( http://dean.edwards.name/packer/ ), and reduce the size of your code by 70% or more. Better yet, I suggest migrating over to a unified library like mootools for your visual effects, ajax, etc. ( http://mootools.net/ ). - SpookyET, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Do you know what slows down digg? COMMENTS. I don't know why, but loading the story page is insanely slow. Slashdot, OSNews, and many others do not have this problem. It's annoying as hell.
Kevin Rose, please:
A) Give us pagination.
B) Allows us to turn off comments.
C) Make it fast.
If I open a few tabs, sometimes just one, from my RSS reader to the digg stories, Firefox crawls to a halt, uses 100% CPU, and it takes like 2-3 minutes to load all the stories with comments. It's annoying as hell. Sometimes, I load 10-15 stories. That can take 5 or more minutes. It's not my internet connection's fault. - iDiggIt42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@fkr3 (#6314813)
What are you using? Dialup? I've never seen a Digg page take anywhere near 10 seconds to load.
A wordpress blog frontpaged, though, is quite a different story... - fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10And with a stopwatch ... this page took 36 seconds to load from the time I hit F5 to the hourglass going away.
- elsewhen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@onemanarmy - i haven't installed it yet, but according to the article, its context-sensitive - so when you right click on a username, it gives you links to that particular user's pages. so with bookmarks you can save some key pages that you visit, but this extension gives access to almost all digg pages.
- zurp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@elsewhen
So how do you get the menu to appear in the first place? Mind bullets? - phaed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@Nougat (#6314820)
thanx. was wondering what all those "#4324324" things were. ahh yes. been looking for this all my life. - zurp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Digg is notoriously slow for me as well.. 6 MiB inet download, 3 GHz cpu, 1 GB RAM, and the average Digg page takes anywhere from 8 to 15 seconds to load. I use NoScript so it's not even the adds that are slowing it down, its just Digg.
- erkayae, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Good for the Addiggts
- math0ne, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Cool but needs more features... how about a direct link to the dugmirror when you right click...
- Cheeze_Head, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5YES! Finally someone who has the same problem as I do. I love digg digg but I hate the 100% CPU, this happens always when I middle click 3 or more stories. BOOM instant 100% CPU, choking the computer to death. This happens @ work and at home and at my friends house...
Note:
FF 1.5.0.11
No Script enabled -> Don't trust google, only trust digg.com, nothing else from the site
Other extensions installed
Please fix your code. - gmprunner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's called RSS.
- Four20, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6dunno why it takes you 36 seconds. but after a hard refresh it took me 6 seconds. maybe it's the tux?
- fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5If you turn off comments then why do you need to view the story page at all? It's not like there's a crapload of other stuff to do on this page.
- fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is what some page load measuring extension for Firefox says is happening when I view a page on digg:
Duration 32406ms
http://pastebin.ca/455344
The second time I cleared the record and hit refresh, and scored just under 47 seconds. That's on a completely standard installation of Firefox, no settings changed, the only thing installed is the stumbleupon extension and the newly installed page load measurer. - kday, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Also, from the way digg loads, it doesn't seem to use any caching mechanisms. Digg really ought to cache some stuff instead of displaying everything dynamically. If entire site caching isn't easy to set up with the web application framework you are using, just create some code to cache all the front pages of each news category. This alone could cut the server load in half. If I had to guess, I would guess that digg has plenty of bandwidth, but not enough processing power. If it is the other way around, you could just put the html of each page all on one line. While this isn't pretty for anyone that views the source, it sure saves a hell of a lot of bandwidth.
I think it is time to bring in the site optimization crew. - zurp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"So, instead of having to click four or five times to navigate to a particular Digg page, you can get there in a single click!"
Inaccurate, you have to click twice: once to activate menu, again to act on selected item. - Cwo655321, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4if this isn't front page news, what is?
/strokes digg royally - starsky51, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Top tip: Although those user images are only 500 bytes each, adblocking them (http://digg.com/userimages/*) can half the amount of data downloaded from each page. give it a try.
- columb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'd like to see comment ONLY +10 or more and -10 or more!
Why I have to get through all those silly +1/-1... - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Wow, I just use the RSS feeds, never even seen that menu!
- xino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@hdtvdust I am on digg a lot and it is slow at times, but I never been kicked out before. I have more problems with digging stories and digging comments up and down. Some times I will click on one of those and it just won't do any thing.
- Karmalary, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It looks like a good thing, but I won't install it. I already have a GODZILLION Firefox add-ons that do good things, and I think I have reached the do-good-things absolute limit. It's a shame when the best damn browser on Earth, in an intention to do too damn many good things, takes so long to load that it's user dies a natural death waiting. Now I'll do a good thing and shut up ;)
- ahill7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Looks like a good extension to save those precious seconds of my life.
I'm thinking, however, that this only remains viable if Digg maintains its URL scheme. Right? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3its the bloated javascript. it doesnt scale and isnt meant to be repeated on a page with 100+ comments.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This extension needs a "Submit" option for whatever page you're currently looking at.
And I should be able to go straight to a category page by clicking on its menu item. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3fkr3...I was giving Digg the benefit of the doubt. That 10 seconds was for a brand new story with less than 5 comments.
- Chingmiester, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6With names like fatphil and biggychong, you kind of have to expect incessant digg-downs wherever you go.
- mynameiswerd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Same here. It has been brought up before but for RSS users there should be a link to the actual linked content AND a link to its comment page. I'd say on my iBook it takes about 40 seconds for a page with 100+ comments to load... ugh.
- mgrest, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@kday
>Oh, and yes I have a life. I am a web designer/developer.
Ouch. Nothin' like digging a hole for yourself there.... - geekitechture, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@zurp
I know, I know, my CPU is kind of low (I'm at like 1.87 Ghz) but my RAM was just minimum at best (512 MB) so I bought another 512 stick. I only have two slots for RAM though, and they both held 256 sticks, so I had to pull one out, put the new 512 in, and do the math...that only gave me 765 MB RAM altogether, way short of a gig, which is what I want. I'm running XP Pro, and I am hoping the increased RAM will make up for the lack of processing power a little; it's a good computer, clean and fast, but Christ does FF slow down for me on Digg. FF also slows down for me in general with more than 4-5 tabs open, and I've got about 10 add-ons and ten GS's that I'm NOT giving up, so we'll see.
I hate to upgrade the CPU if I don't have to, but maybe it's time.. - zurp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes, but the chances of that happening are slim to none. I'd put a month's salary that the URL scheme won't have a significant change for at least the next 2 years. Plus, that's why extensions are easily updated.
- lindsaydayton, on 10/12/2007, -8/+9very nice! works great, so far!
- ernieoporto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Know what speeds Digg up for me? Subscribing to the RSS feed. I can browse the headline there and then I only hit Digg if it sounds good. So I only hit Digg about 10 times a day, going directly to the story. No extension bloat required.
- geekitechture, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@iDiggIt42
Agreed, on a decent cable connection it should not take ten seconds to load Digg. Sometimes you asswipes might encounter scripts that run on Digg, and if your PC doesn't have enough RAM to handle FF's increased memory usage during Digg's script-running, every tab in your browser will freeze up, and you will lose control of the mouse, too, it will just freeze and not move on the page you're viewing. Up to 30 seconds later a FF dialog box will open asking if you want to "stop or debug" the script that's running on the Digg page. Just hit "stop," wait a few more seconds, and go buy more RAM.
Digg is THE hardest site for FF to handle IMO, and I'm on an updated copy of 2.0 with every tweak known to God and man to speed it up. I haven't missed a trick, but I still had to buy more RAM last week to compensate for how slow FF is on Digg (or how much Digg slows down Firefox). And I'm buying more RAM next week. When I can finally load a page on Digg in less than three seconds even with a script running on the page, I'll know I finally have enough RAM to handle anything the Web can throw at me... :) - kday, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4"Hate to break it to you, but Digg is a HORRIBLE page code-wise."
Wow. You obviously failed to read my comment. I hate to break it to you, but you are a MORON. I am a web developer, and digg is rather good code-wise. I would guess that the code is better than 99% (or more) of existing websites. The pages may be slower to load than most websites, but that is != to bad code.
If you don't know anything, don't spread false information. It's a waste of bandwidth.
Oh, and yes I have a life. I am a web designer/developer.
What do you do? - ethsen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Problem is the RSS feed doesn't link to the article, it links directly to the digg page with several billion comments. I get to load that monstrosity first before I can get to the article.
- zurp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@geekitechture
You're wasting your money if your only purpose is so speed up Digg load times. Actually, if you're just buying ram to try to speed anything up you're probably going down the wrong alley unless you only have like 256 MB of RAM. If you only run FF, and nothing else, and Digg still takes a long time to load, it could be your CPU, your inet, or it could be Digg....but it most definitely isn't your RAM at that point. - geekitechture, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@kday
About the validation...you don't have to guess. I don't know about server-side scripts, but Digg's CSS and HTML validate at the W3C, and that's half the battle of a well-coded site right there. - geekitechture, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@hdtvdust
You've got to be ***** me--no one gets "booted" from Digg.
It's not an extension you need, it's more RAM or an upgraded cable/DSL package.
Your Firefox is probably crashing on Digg if your PC doesn't have enough RAM to handle FF's increased memory consumption when multiple tabs are open, so add another stick. If you have plenty of RAM, check with your cable/DSL service provider for upgrade options.
If none of those things are the problem, then you need the FF Session Manager add-on to restore your "booted" sessions, and you need someone to check your computer for you, 'cause something's wrong -
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