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Firefox 2.0 Beta 2 is Out

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  • clownfart, on 10/12/2007, -220/+5dl link: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bonecho/releases/2.0b1.html
    • junkking, on 10/12/2007, -6/+137How about Beta 2 ?
      http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bonecho/releases/2.0b2.html
    • spiffyjeff, on 10/12/2007, -34/+12fx 2.0 b2 link in general:
      http://fileforum.betanews.com/search?search=Mozilla+Firefox+%27Bon+Echo%27

      Direct Links
      Windows: http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/1032985422/4/Firefox%20Setup%202.0%20Beta%202.exe
      Linux (even works on ubuntu ;) ) http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/1032985422/5/firefox-2.0b2.tar.gz
      Mac OS X: http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/1032985422/6/Firefox%202.0%20Beta%202.dmg
    • elroy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Spellcheck no longer works on remote XUL applications. This is HORRIBLE news for my primary client.
    • UnderLoK, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14Go to the source and pick your own flavor...

      http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2.0b2-candidates/rc2/
    • spiffyjeff, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5oops, aparently betanews counteracts direct links, once you click the link, just hit the Download Now button/link (top right). sorry, i'm just trying to include everybody to get what they need without having to search and read.
    • skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -8/+35Memory bug fixed yet?
    • skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -10/+17What about performance? Back/forward page rendering? CSS rendering? Table rendering? Script speed? Multiple image rendering? Is it faster than Opera yet?

      These are the things *I* am concerned with, not the icon gloss effects or other such non-sense.

    • divergentdave, on 10/12/2007, -28/+4Firefox 2.0: Bringing a new meaning to Web 2.0
    • Hickeroar, on 10/12/2007, -22/+11Honestly...there's barely any difference between 2.0 and 1.5. These changes are barely worthy of a 1.6 designation, let alone a 2.0. When there's a new release there should be sweeping changes and updates. As of now the only real USEABLE differences are the X's on the tabs and the lack of the "Go" menu. Everything else is pretty much the same.
    • rodbibeau, on 10/12/2007, -17/+4It still doesnt have a way to save tab groups.

      all I want it to do it open this this and this tab when I start firefox. I would love to be corrected.
    • KWhat, on 10/12/2007, -18/+3@skyshock21 - "Memory bug fixed yet?"

      That's not firefox leaking memory its Flash. BTW I am still waiting for my Linux port.... yeah yeah I know its its coming right.
    • mike_p, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3I see a lot of people complaining about memory leak bugs all the time... but none of them ever mention that they use Firefox extensions. Those extensions cause memory leaks (or aggravate the existing ones). @KWhat: Flash? Never heard of that causing probs... 1st for everything I guess...

      Not saying they're the same, but it's the same sorta deal in World of Warcraft. When you start using all these UI enhancements and extra addons, the memory gradually increases and never finds an end.
    • johnthedebs, on 10/12/2007, -4/+52"Honestly...there's barely any difference between 2.0 and 1.5. These changes are barely worthy of a 1.6 designation, let alone a 2.0."

      Visual Refresh
      Built-in phishing protection
      Enhanced search capabilities
      Improved tabbed browsing
      Resuming your browsing session
      Previewing and subscribing to Web feeds
      Inline spell checking
      Live Titles
      Improved Add-ons manager
      JavaScript 1.7
      Extended search plugin format
      Updates to the extension system
      Client-side session and persistent storage
      SVG text
      New Windows installer
      and that's besides all the bugfixes. Please don't make stupid comments. Thanks.

      "It still doesnt have a way to save tab groups.
      all I want it to do it open this this and this tab when I start firefox. I would love to be corrected."

      With multiple tabs open right-click the tab bar and select Bookmark All Tabs... Then under options, click Use Bookmark and select the folder that you just saved those bookmarks to. Enjoy being corrected.
    • davereid20, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17@rodbibeau,
      Have you tried setting your Firefox Homepage to something like this?
      http://address-of-1-tab.com|http://address-of-2-tab.com|http://address-of-3-tab.com
    • ricosalomar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6@rodbibeau
      Just make your homepage a list, separated by a | (bar).
      They will all open, tabbed.

      (edit) davereid20 beat me to it, stupid captcha.
    • republicoftexas, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Does the adblock plus, adblock filterset, and forecast fox enhanced extensions still work? Thanks for the info.
    • astrosmash, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6> Memory bug fixed yet?

      Yes, it's fixed.
    • pyrates, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1To the user rodbibeau, yes it can save tabs. Just go to bookmarks and click on bookmark all tabs...simple as that. And as for opening all the bookmarks in one folder, just click on Open in tabs.
    • MikeCerm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2All I need now is an extension for 1.5 that tells me whether or not all of my extensions are currently ready for 2.0. I upgraded when the last beta came out, thinking that all but a few extensions would work. Almost none of them did, so I had to go back to 1.5. It wasn't that big of a problem, since 2.0 really doesn't have any new features that interest me, other than the re-organizability of seach plugins, which I can continue to live without until the rest of my extensions catch up to 2.0.
    • sovok, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Just install the Nightly Tester Tools Extension, it will let you install/enable all non-compatible extensions: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/958/

      Adblock, Browse Images, All in one gestures etc. all work now with 2.0 beta.
    • btipling, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I agree with Hickeroar, it's more of a 1.6 than a 2.0. These changes are superficial, with the exception of the new JS. I'm dissapointed.
    • skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@ astrosmash

      Good, that brings it on par with every other browser then. Now then, what about speed/performance? Is it faster than Opera yet?
  • clownfart, on 10/12/2007, -66/+4oh yeah sorry
  • sinizuh, on 10/12/2007, -5/+39So the link goes to the beta 2 site, but then the download page says beta 1, but THEN! when you click the download link, it downloads 1.5.0.6
  • mvprj84, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15There is a portable version available also:

    http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/08/31/download-the-portable-version-of-firefox-2-beta-2/
  • DemonicPrime, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Official en-us release
    http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0b2/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%202.0%20Beta%202.exe
  • Marinor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Well I have it running...looks nice and runs pretty well however a lot of my extensions aren't supported yet.

    Well I'll update as they come available.
    • shindig111, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Does it have a newer interface?
    • exsst, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2IT Business reports that Firefox 2.0 will focus on four priority areas, according to Mozilla. These include search bar, icon polish, tab strip and buttons in textboxes. To date, Mozilla has already released a beta version of Firefox 2.0, which does not include Radiant Core’s theme changes, and is scheduled to release another beta in early September. That version will include some of Radiant Core’s changes, according to Goldman.
    • r2d7, on 10/12/2007, -11/+15It's amazing the way they break extensions with every release. The guys writing extensions are ridiculously tollerant. The users' waiting for newly-compatible extensions must be on valium.
    • dave98, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16use mr.techs local install
      https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/421/

      or nightly tester tools
      https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/958/

      both of which provide the ability to make extensions ignore the maxVersion and basically make extensions compatible.

      I use 29 extensions.. all work fine
    • matthiasgoodman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13The extension problem (from 2.0b1 to b2) is that the extension writers set there extension for 2.0b1, not 2.0b*.
    • r2d7, on 10/12/2007, -12/+17.... so every time a new vesion comes out the author has to change the version number in their extension ... and that's the best ***** idea Mozilla can come up with for handling them???
    • gdamjan, on 10/12/2007, -8/+7@ r2d7
      Some extensions are not compatible with newer versions of the browser.
      Since the extension authors don't know if their extensions will be future compatible the can only tag them with the max known version.
    • StealthGod, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@dave98

      Thanks for those links... all extensions work like a charm when you bypass the max version check.
    • r2d7, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1@ gdamjan - not knowing if you'll be compatible is also a core part of the problem. Ever noticed how new versions of Windows and [insert linux distro] rarely require software vendors to do anything?

      After 4 or 5 years surely Mozilla can "expand" on the extension framework rather than charging in like nobody's using it ...
    • Marinor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Thanx dave98 for the links...i'll try them out later
    • zizzybaloobah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The nightly tester tools has worked well for me, except for the Web Developer extension. Browser seems faster too, don't know if it's inherently because of 2.0 or because I'm not using some of the extensions I used previously (because they aren't compatible or they've become a feature)
    • barius, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@r2d7

      The problem is not in Firefox. Extension writers can tell the installer to install under all versions by simply specifying with "*". The reason extension writers allow installation on only specific versions is because they don't want to deal with problems that arise in old or unstable versions of the browser. Since FF2 is a BETA it makes alot of sense that extension developers aren't allowing installations for it because they don't want whiners like you complaining about bugs before the platform their extension is running on is stable.
    • r2d7, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Whiners like me? If we're going to make it personal will you at least cook me breakfast?

      All you're saying is they make it install under version X because Mozilla will probably make it break under version Y ... which is what I'm saying sucks.

      Dickhole.
  • sparkrainfir, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2it's perdy.

    and they seemed to fix the(ctrl)+(k) enter search term (return) bug.

    did i mention, it's perdy?
  • Chris12, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Yeah it looks really beautiful, with a cleaner interface and as with Marinor, some of my extensions don't work

    Hopefully it will be fixed soon.

    Here's another link: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Browsers/Mozilla-Firefox-Final.shtml
  • JeremyBanks, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5http://digg.com/software/Portable_Version_Of_Firefox_2_Beta_2_Available_For_Download
    It's still on the front page!
    • cody50, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6That is the portable version. its different.
    • JeremyBanks, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1The portable version if built on the normal version. If the portable version is out, then it's implied that that normal version is out.
    • gbm85, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If you spend all your time whining about dupes, it's implied that you have no life.
  • danarel, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2running now so far with no problems
  • boynty77, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3how a mac version?
  • dickeytk, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4not that it's a new feature, but i love closing tabs without having to switch to them, ahh
    • ricodued, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2You could do that before. It's called the right mouse button.
    • Bamborzled, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15No, the middle-mouse button.
  • Anrkist, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16I use FF on a constant basis.. rarely open IE. I wish they would work on some of the RAM usage issues rather then trying to update the look of the browser.
    • r2d7, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4The users have shown time and time again they care more about bells and whistles then stability and performance.
    • Anrkist, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Hell.. I still use Classic View in windows.
    • skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7That's because "the users" never check their task manager and rather attribute their slow computing experience to spyware instead of their web browser.
    • Hickeroar, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4Most users (myself included) have at least 1GB of ram and don't need to worry if FF is using 35MB or more... Everyone else has 512MB anymore and that still isn't going to cause any problems. That said, I have 2GB and REALLY don't need to worry about it.

      Firefox's ram usage is not "that bad."
    • barius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@r2d7

      What you are describing is usually called "progress" by intelligent people. You see, with each new *major* version Mozilla will add new features or improve existing features. Sometimes these changes will render previous features obsolete, or break them entirely. However, when this new platform has become stable and is released to the development community it is the developers turn to make use of these features and/or update their software to work with the changes in the platform. If the developers don't want to support the new version, then Mozilla has very kindly given them a way to prevent silly users from trying to use their software on an unsupported platform, probably saving them alot of user-support headaches. Of course, the point of all this is to provide a platform that continually improves giving developers new tools to continually improve. If a developer stops updating his extension then it's not Mozilla's fault. On the bright side, since all extensions are Open Source, another developer could continue where the previous left off.

      BTW, if you think Mozilla is bad at backwards compatibility, you should try developing for Windows Vista. Now there's something to whine about.
    • barius, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Umm... I don't know how that post ended up in the wrong thread...
    • stockjones, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Its funny you say that about the task manager and regular users not caring about stability. I find Firefox peaking out memory / cpu a lot and I dont have any extensions installed whatsoever. Thats the whole irony about Firefox fanatics. Many of you are the anal security stable app crew and yet Firefox is pretty much a hog and broke in many ways but you accept it. Not that IE is better but when MS releases IE, I doubt upgrades will break any add-ons you have installed or crap out on you when viewing a page with Flash or built on tables.
    • RemoteSojourner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I had an IE add-on installed and it did break..so there you go
    • chewy5000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Works well for me, it just takes 30 seconds or so to open, then its fast as lightning

      I just play cards while i'm waiting
  • gweedo767, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bonecho/all-beta.html

    Use the mirrors guys. Just replace the b1 in the URL with b2.
  • seanmac, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6it's bubbly and reflectiv-y -- Firefox 2.0 for Web 2.0...

    I hate the look but I guess I can change that. Let's hope memory usage is better...
    • jeremdow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1It does look crappy - why did they have to hire an outside firm to design that theme?

      Plenty of better amateur themes out there.

      Maybe it will look better in Aero - conform to your color/transparency settings - anyone know for sure?
    • Toupee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7From what I understand, that isn't Radiant Core's design... more or less a mockup. According to the blog that was actually linked to, the final design is due out in another release in early September.
  • Tanglefuzz, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7I really dislike the new 'tabs graphics'. They are way to light... don't fit in with the rest of the browser window. (windows xp classic theme)

    oh and I really hate the position of the tabs closing button, why does every browser have it on the tab itself at the moment? Always preferred the FF1.5 way... on the right of the tab screen.

    Now i'm constantly clicking the tab drop-down menu on the right of the screen :(
    • Anrkist, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1I have to agree with you there. Unfortunately this is one of the features they are doing away with.
    • cardinal23, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1It will take a week at the most, for someone to get an extension out that does just that.
    • g5604, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I think the tabs look good, shame about everything else...
    • astrosmash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3> Now i'm constantly clicking the tab drop-down menu on the right of the screen

      Get with the times. All the cool people middle-click a tab to close it; the placement of the red close button is irrelevant.
    • rushiku, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This should be a configurable option. (I hope)

      Not everyone wants to click each tab to close, not everyone wants to click one easy to access spot to selectively close multiple tabs, not everyone wants to use the middle fricking mouse button that doesn't even close the tab until you move the mouse (in my experience), not everyone wants to use mouse gestures, not everyone wants to right click and choose close other tabs, and not everyone wants to close tabs in any other way that I may have missed.
  • catbertz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Not a fan of the default theme's icon changes. Too aero..they are slightly hard to focus on with my ancient eyes ;)
    • ChrisGranger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I agree completely. The previous version's icons were much easier for me to see. These are too light and glossy.
  • foxyfox, on 10/12/2007, -18/+2OMFG! This browser will beat the crap out of IE 7. Can you say pwnage?
    • CBTF, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Chances are you dont even know much about browsers. You're on the bandwagon- okay. We know.
  • henrrrik, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Here's the proper link for all versions:
    http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0b2/
    • jawbreaker4fs, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0Thanks! I was having trouble finding it for Linux
  • JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Hmmm. Using Bon Echo and such, i'm a little confused. It would auto-DL and update every night for me, and it's been "Bon Echo 2.0b2" for me for about a week and a half now O_O
    • JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3And now that I have installed both, there's no difference between the two, they are exactly the same other than the name change. Is this how Bon Echo usually works? Always updating to the newest nightly build?
  • Mand0lesi, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Can you go back to the 1.5 version after installing beta 2 ?
    • shindig111, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1uninstall and reinstall...
    • heysuburbia, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8It installs into a different directory.
    • 15charmaxwtf, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1bury
    • M2Ys4U, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Use a different profile
    • astrosmash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3> Can you go back to the 1.5 version after installing beta 2 ?

      Yes. You can have both installed and switch between the two as you wish.
  • thegreyfox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8nice and fast. layout seems a bit washed out. but so far great.
  • OminousPotato, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Awesome! I'm gonna go download it right now. Thanks for the info!
  • PAJK, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I found a bug. When switching between tabs sometimes (using alt-tab), the up-down button scrolling won't work until you click inside the page.

    Other than that, works fine -- so far.
    • shindig111, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1It's not a bug... It happens with all the browsers... You need to set the active windows for scrolling...
    • spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3or download the Window XP powertoy TweakUI and turn on X-Mouse
    • jawbreaker4fs, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2That's not happening to me. Maybe it's a problem with the Windows version?
  • Room101, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10The new buttons look cheap. They look like they belong in one of those terrible home brewed Opera skins. Whoever is working on it needs to remember that the glassy/aqua type icons have been done a lot, so it might be a good idea to try and do them well.
  • kingamoon, on 10/12/2007, -18/+12I think the versioning of firefox corresponds to the amount of ram you need to run it. So 2 gigs will do for this one yah? :)

    Yes yes ... go ahead ... bury me.

    Opera all the way sonn!

  • necrogoldo, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1didnt this beta 2 come out like 2 weeks ago?, cuz I've been running it for almost 2 weeks now
  • TruckStuff, on 10/12/2007, -14/+9I'm sure I'll get buried for this, but are we all sufficiently underwhelmed yet? Don't get me wrong, I use Firefox exclusively, but this release very disappointing so far. Some new eye-candy, whoo-ee. Minimal new funcaionality. And it breaks most extensions. Is this really on upgrade?
    • jawbreaker4fs, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4I definitely agree with you. Well, actually.. I did. Then I saw that it underlined my typo in the message posting. That's a pretty cool feature.
    • Alegis, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5I noticed a performance boost, I like the eye candy. Stop whining.
      Extension updates will be released soon enough. It will even check them for you.
    • simd, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3I agree truck. For most users it's not a huge difference to what was available. We've come to expect the move to a 2.0 version to offer some significant changes to the 1.5 version. More like a 1.6?

      I'm not sure how this will contribute any more to "killing IE7" than 1.5 has already done.

      I'm not saying it's not a good browser - just not exactly worth the hype.
    • LKBM, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4I'm not sure it's really a 2.0-worthy update, but there is certainly some nice stuff. Of course, most of the big features are already available as extentions.
      * Improved tab behavior? I prefer Tab Mix Plus to what it sounds likey they've added to 2.0.
      * Unclose tab? Tab Mix Plus has it.
      * Session Saver? Also with Tab Mix Plus (and other extentions).
      * Spelling checking as you type? Okay, this is nice, but I think there's an extention for it. Maybe it's not as-you-type. Never tried it.
      * Javascript 1.7? Not a lot of important new features, but some nice stuff. Of course, if the stuff only runs on Gecko-based browsers, that limits its use a lot.
      * Phishing protection? Not a big deal for me, but important for many people.
      * Client-side session and persistent storage sounds very interesting, but much like JS1.7, if only Gecko-based browsers (or possibly only Firefox) support it, that limits the value.
      * Speed + footprint: People here are saying it seems faster, but that's something always said, even when not true. If it is true, that's very nice.
      * Misc. stuff I don't care about.

      Not needing all these extentions is nice (I have 17 at the moment). And, of course, many people are barely aware that extentions exist. For them, this could be a major update. For me, it may be not so much.
    • adiman7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Is this really on (an) upgrade?"

      It will be an upgrade when it will be final. Until it's in BETA you shouldn't expect everything to work. I find it normal that some extensions don't work.
    • JEmerson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm loving the trunk builds. Wasn't very impressed with 2.0, and there wasn't too much visually in 3, admitingly still in early development. But the thing's moving like a bat out of hell in linux since installing xgl. Don't know the reason for it, what's getting accelerated or not, but it's still pretty cool.
  • fak3r, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3Cool, looking forward to 2.0 -- but even more to 3.0! I'm now running 3.0a1 (codenamed: Minefield) on Windows, and I now I can't get used to 'older' firefox versions that don't have the 'X' on each tab! It's ideal to have it this way, really. Article doesn't say, but when will the new UI hit for 2.0?
    • Destinatus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Am I the only one who hats the 'x' on each tab? I've accidentally closed tabs so many times with that annoying feature. Middle-mouse click is really much more convenient.
    • M2Ys4U, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I expect you can use userchrome.css to remove them.
  • ylikone, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6When Firefox 2 final is released, I am going to start pushing Firefox more than ever before. Let's get IE out of the picture. Open source is the way to go!
  • 4degrees, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1Friggen dupe! this hit the front page like an hour ago! c'mon people!
  • PsychoPNut, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1man what a bunch of lame asses..... Firefox themselves said its being released from 12:00 - 1:30.... they're in California... look at the time asses
  • BrokenBeta, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7Is it supposed to spell-check text fields? Because it doesn't for me.
    • damndj, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8Beta 1 did for me, but so far Beta 2 has not been auto checking my spelling in forms.

    • jorisb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I don't know why you're both getting dugg down.
      It's simply a fact.. it also doesn't spell check for me.

      It sounds like a really good feature though.
  • RonaldLewis, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5So far, so good. Like others, I too have noticed an increase in page render performance -- very important!
  • jcjdoss, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Nice interface and it appears to be faster. Firefox is still the best.
  • tmahmood, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3OK Linux one is for 686 arch right? Should this work on AMD? Last time it worked, but was very slow... can anyone put some light on this for me?
    • tmahmood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why dugging me down? I'm just asking a question..
  • Robmash, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2nice new browser to go with my new laptop :D
  • edmicman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Clicking the throbber still doesn't take you to Mozilla's homepage?
    • jawbreaker4fs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1That is a little strange. It should at least take you to a dev page to submit bug reports or something similar.
  • nostartnoend, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5The OS X version is blazing fast. Nice.
    • astrosmash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes, the OS X version has significant Mac-specific performance and UI improvements over Firefox 1.5. On top of that, they've finally implemented smooth trackpad/mouse-wheel scrolling correctly.

      Anyone still using Firefox 1.5 on OS X should upgrade to Firefox 2.0 beta 2 immediately.
    • metaphysical, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah I agree with astrosmash. Scrolling in FF 1.5 is brutal.
  • jawbreaker4fs, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I REALLY hate that backspace has the same function as page up now... I have to get in the habit of manually clicking somewhere every time I want to go back? Very irritating.
    • KriTenKs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Backspace still works as Back on my Firefox... Maybe its just your computer.
    • astrosmash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Or maybe it's just you...
    • mvent2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Set browser.backspace_action to 0
  • angrycat, on 10/12/2007, -17/+3firefox is gay
    • naio21, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3I'm hardly waiting for IE7 final release so I can uninstall this piece of crap called FireSucks from my machine...
  • hsetty, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Awesome!! F2.0B2 works so much better on the mac now with the keyboard shortcuts..much more closer to safari!
  • hls1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12.0b2 brought what i had been wanting for many months (on the mac, i know windows already had it): favicons in the bookmarks menu! i don't know why we've had to wait so long, but it's finally here!

    that's one of the few important things i preferred in camino (though i still used firefox primarily). now if only firefox supported favicons in the bookmarks bar too....
  • nerdvernacular, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Perhaps the the acrobat reader works this time around, without crashing or freezing the browser each time the user happens to click on a PDF link?
    • wurzelgummage, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1It's never crashed for me, but it does leave the acrobat exe in memory even after you closed the window with the pdf.

      Get the pdf downloader extension.
    • nerdvernacular, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1tried the extension.. still crashes.. uninstalled, reinstalled, same for acrobat. cleared registry, and so forth.
  • beltzner, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7To save Mozilla's server infrastructure and allow for proper load balancing, can people please point to the download page, which will be:

    http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bonecho/all-beta.html

    Thanks!
    • JeffS, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2People woud probably link there if they had beta2 referenced. That page needs to be updated since it links beta 1 downloads.
    • danielandrews, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Problem is, right now this points to b1.
    • theodicey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Please digg beltzner's comment. He's from the Mozilla Foundation, and he knows what he's talking about.
    • naio21, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1theodicey: Please digg beltzner's comment. He's from the Mozilla Foundation, and he knows what he's talking about.

      "Poor are the bastards who work for free..."
  • TigerX, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3(Nevermind)
  • mecole21, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3I just creamed my pants!!!
  • mooseboy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2hooray you can finally choose where to download files.....
    • BradFive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You always could.

      Tools > Options > Download

      Select either "Ask me where to save every file" or "Save to this folder"



  • sunnyboy06, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Just for future reference, point to an official release or the actualy folder where the program can be found. It makes life easier.
  • Phirenzic, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0I just installed it on my Mac, and it's seems noticeably quicker in rendering pages.
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