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- feylanks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+90"Finally! REAL Origami photos from CNET!!"
But... the caption to the photo reads:
"Intel showed off two prototypes of Ultra Mobile PC devices at the Intel Developer Forum in San Francisco on Tuesday. The models are examples of full-featured, low-wattage minitablets that can run a variant of Windows XP, developed as part of Microsoft's Origami Project."
... and it has a link to an article titled "Intel shows Origami-like device," from which you are linked to that photo again.
http://news.com.com/Intel shows Origami-like device/2100-1044_3-6046793.html
Not truthful title, more like "Finally! REAL mini-tablet pc photos!!" - kowgod, on 10/12/2007, -33/+93Don't be so quick to assume this will beat out apple. Doesn't really do anything to demonstrate the features or functionality are worth the size compared to the smaller/thinner ipod size trends.
Time will tell. - SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -18/+59That thing looks incredibly cheap. It actually reminds me of the design of Sega's Gamegear because it's huge, black and has a cheap plastic appearance. Anytime you place a screen that small on a device that large people are going to assume you're trying to skimp on the cost of screens and that doesn't sit well with high-end electronics consumers like myself. If I am going to spend money on something, I want it to look and feel like I spent money on it. I don't want it to look like it came from Korea, even if it did.
Hopefully, that's just a prototype and they'll refine the design a bit because as a design student I can tell you, my professors would send me back to the drawing board if I submitted that as a final product. Though I do concede that it could just be the appearance of it in the photo, it may look better in person. But generally, if it doesn't photograph well, it won't look good in advertisements and you won't sell many.
Much of the success of Apple's iPod can be attributed to good design and looks. They need to rethink that first design. The one from the third and fourth pics is better, but far from perfect. - kevinrose, on 10/12/2007, -10/+51The size isn't really that compelling. If I'm going to purchase something this large it's going to be a small sub-notebook.
- saguaro, on 10/12/2007, -7/+47I think the markets for iPods and "ultra mobile PCs' are quite different. Most people probably don't buy an iPod instead of an HPC or Palm. And a laptop is completely different from an iPod. This is going to cut into the handheld market more than anything.
- zwei, on 10/12/2007, -19/+58Looks like it's 10 years old. Better do something really impressive to make up for the uglies.
- Greg-J, on 10/12/2007, -6/+34
http://www.prntscrn.net/img.php?img=Real-Origami_1.jpg
http://www.prntscrn.net/img.php?img=Real-Origami_2.jpg
http://www.prntscrn.net/img.php?img=Real-Origami_3.jpg
http://www.prntscrn.net/img.php?img=Real-Origami_4.jpg - dburka, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30It's surprising they can't get a smaller frame around the lcd screen. Many recent devices are making that frame smaller and smaller which maximizes your workspace relative to to the size of the overall device. If I'm going to lug around a fairly large device like this, you'd at least want a decent screen. It will be interesting to see if further prototypes maximize the use of space more effectively.
- alex007, on 10/12/2007, -9/+30Don't assume this is the final design
- fuutott, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24i hope it isn't the final design. who needs the buttons anymore when there are touchscreens. the device should be the size of the screen.
- SvobodaIT, on 10/12/2007, -11/+28It actually reminds me of the old Sega Gamegear.
- webdevil, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21"even though the hands holding the thing are actually ENORMOUS"
I believe the technical term is "banana hands" - o0joshua0o, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17What are the selling points for this device? I haven't heard anything concrete.
- farfromsubtl, on 10/12/2007, -16/+30"Looks like it's 10 years old."
Agreed. This thing might as well be from the stone age in terms of design. - JasonPrini, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13MUST be sunlight readable
MUST have decent battery life - sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Why are they demoing Yahoo! on it? Isn't yahoo a competitor of MSN?
- FlyboyP, on 10/12/2007, -11/+22Nobody will buy this.
1. Bright sunlight washes out the screen.
2. Too big for a pocket, too small for a case.
3. Tablet interface never really caught on, this is just Mini-tablet. - wolphcry, on 10/12/2007, -23/+34Apple does have something. The Newton.
- MoeB, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17well it is a prototype... and there is a lot of light in that room...
- 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Yeah, their current stuff is pretty decent looking. Again, aesthetics is pretty much a hit or miss game because good looking is so arbitrary. I agree a tablet PC that is as thick as a Nano, comes in several colors, and has a glossy top with very few hardware controls and a big ol' hi-res screen would be nice. At this point it's really impossible to tell whether people like Apple's design or just support everything Apple puts out.
- nork, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15If the edge is any thinner, how are you supposed to hold it? put your thumbs right on the screen itself? it's too big to grip from behind, you'll have to grab an edge and place fingers behind, and a thumb on top. anyway, it's ugly.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16It's NOT A MICROSOFT PRODUCT! Can we at least read the article people? It's Intel's PROTOTYPE. We still have no clue what the MS Origami is, or will look like.
- xLiKx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12but it's definitely a bit more portable than a regular tablet PC and maybe the battery life will be better too. i'm giving MS a chance on this one.
- thehickoks, on 10/12/2007, -11/+20THANK GOODNESS they built something that can easily fit into my back pocket!
- DapperScoo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14That swivel keyboard design on picture 3 is pretty sweet. I like how they set the shape and orientation of the keys on each side to make it easier to navigate the buttons with your thumbs on each hand. They put some thought into the ergonomics (although people will still destroy their joints using it).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Wow, allot you people are SO ENGROSSED in APPLES IPOD that tend to SEE IT in EVERY PRODUCT that comes to market.
MS Origami Ultra Mobile PC device. I don't know how people can compare a portable mpeg player to a portable PC when the functionality and capacity of both vary tremendously. - Loyaleagle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Yes, was totally misled until clicking through....
- OperatorNo9, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Buttons are for games. If you watch the infamous concept video, you can see a dude playing some racing game. I can't imagine trying twitch gaming on a touchscreen.
- cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15A nice rounded, white design from MS is ugly, but a nice rounded, white design from Apple is the schitt. I think it looks quite useful and fills a size gap between PSP/Ipod size and laptop size. I just hope it isn't end-of-the-world expensive.
- digitalgopher, on 10/12/2007, -16/+23yeah the design is not cutting it for me. i hope they fix it before retail release...
- ek3s, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It ISN'T competing with the Ipod. It's a totally different system on its own.
- Denver80203, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I'm guessing that like Tablet PCs the exact design will be left up to the various manufacturers. Thus there will be great variety in the available units -As demonstrated by the 2 different designs in the photos.
Then again, I'm just guessing - Galaeron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I gotta agree with the people getting burried saying its ugly. Its just not attractive. And im sorry but I don't see how this is goin to fight with the Ipod. Reasons being
1.) Ipod fits in your pocket, Orgami fits in your backback
2.) Ipod plays music/video, Origami plays music, video, surfs the internet, has a swivel keyboard, etc.
Ipods are simple tools doing simple things. Origami is more advanced but its just not appealing.
Look at it this way, when your out and just dont got time to stop at a local hotspot and boot up ur laptop, what could you possibly need that ur cellphone can't do for you? My e-mails go to my cellphone, stock quotes, game scores, Directions. It's all already there and it still fits in my pocket/side of my belt...so maybe I haven't looked enough into Origami or maybe they haven't released alot of info but I havent found a reason ima rush out there and buy it.
Sorry this is sloppy, end of the day and im rushing ot get out :)
also, why thumb down people cause they chose to post they think its ugly, its their opioin. Thumb down the people who are childish and say "***** microsoft, unbuntu for life" or "OMG GAWD DAMN THATS UGLY THEY NEED TO FIX IT OR ITS OGNNA FLOP OMG" yeah those people suck. - jonnyeh, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10It looks big in that shot, even though the hands holding the thing are actually ENORMOUS.
- dave_colorado, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11all this hype...what exactly does it do? why should i buy one? all i see are pictures of a pen, a screen, and a clunky device. am i the only one thinking this? maybe i missed the news on what it's supposed to do.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -19/+25It's a huge, clunky-looking Tablet PC. These have been tried before. There's no way this will ever topple products like the iPod, as some people are claiming.
Give me a MacBook Pro for portable computing, thank you very much... - romper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7About 10 minutes after it's available to the public. =)
- panique, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9LOOOOOOL I seem to remember someone complaining about the "Apple Fanboys" burying any negative comments about Macs...I don't remember them giving any of them that many -diggs though.
- sintaks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Have you considered the possibility that Origami is more of a set of standards set to comply with a new piece of software Microsoft is developing?
Think about: Microsoft is first and foremost a software company. However, since they basically have market dominance, they can get other companies to manufacture with certain specs, so that the new "Magical Origami" software runs on all basic models (i.e., regardless of manufacturer, every device has to have wireless, camera, microphone, certain graphic capabilities, X amount of memory, whatever).
This is just a shot in the dark, but it's a theory. It would explain why third parties are manufacturing handhelds for Microsoft's project, and why they might be demonstrating Yahoo on the device (no non-compete). Origami could very well be an XP variant that merely *expects* that there be certain hardware - and interfaces perfectly with it. - colebarnes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6it's not HUGE... unless the guy that's holding it could palm a watermellon...
- SniperX, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9So UPS has been using Origami for years!!
- HenryTarling, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"Intel showed off two prototypes of Ultra Mobile PC devices at the Intel Developer Forum in San Francisco on Tuesday. The models are examples of full-featured, low-wattage minitablets that can run a variant of Windows XP, developed as part of Microsoft's Origami Project. "
So is this a picture of origami or is origami more like a minitablet version of XP
and the name of microsofts hardware solution, with the option for 3rd party's to make minitablets ? - dotwhynot, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I liked that one as well, I want one! :) This has the potential to be a very sweet portabel device, usable for a lot of things, so not mobile phone/ipod-tiny, but still very portable.
/me dragging around a too big laptop everywhere today - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5We already know what an Origami-based device looks like. Did you miss the promo video? The Origami project is another Tablet PC platform project, with a variant of Windows XP/Vista. You people are assuming Microsoft will be selling a hardware device, when it's likely they're working with third-party manufacturers who will make the devices while Microsoft provides the platform and specs, as with past Tablet PCs, PlaysForSure, and their other mobile device strategies.
The fact Intel is showing off a prototype of its own but "based on Origami work" is confirmation of this. Third parties will be making the devices. Origami is just the codename for the platform. - Stealth, on 10/12/2007, -27/+31it looks a little to big
- donsherio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Yeah i unno, Im somewhat hoping this isnt the final design. Also, that keyboard is basically the exact same as my attachable keyboard for my Palm M500 *yeah its old :P* and yeah.. theyre hell to use. U have to use your thumbs. it would be better if they had something like that attachable keyboard in the leather casing from the video. That was a good idea :p plus if its at all heavy, then ur going to have to support the whole thing AND type at the same time. EEEP!
- Stymyx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@CapitolK
Yeah. And when you shake it, it reboots. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -12/+16Apple already made this back in the early 90s, called the Newton. I don't think Apple would bother "innovating" this new device since it's just another ugly Tablet PC, and someone wanting portable computing would just buy a laptop.
Kudos to Microsoft's marketing department for getting the tech press to get into a pointless buzz of hype over a giant Tablet PC. This will take off as well as all the other Tablet PCs in the past have. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6That's what I'm wondering. I just don't see a clear market for this. It's big enough that it will be compared with laptops, and I would rather have a laptop. This thing looks like it was made by Sega in the late 80s.
- JQP123, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Cost? It all hinges on cost. Low end laptops are available for around $500.
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