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- ouchast, on 10/11/2007, -5/+130“FileRights” is a big step in the wrong direction. I'm glad The Piratebay doesn't follow up on ***** like this.
- carbon12, on 10/11/2007, -9/+111Time to boycott Torrentspy and Isohunt; hopefully Mininova doesn't follow suit and implement "FileRights".
FTA:
Gary Fung (Isohunt owner)
“You are either illiterate and don’t check the frontpage of sites you are pointing fingers at, or you are a communist. Or both. What makes you think you have rights to content you didn’t produce? People’s rights vs. copyright holders’ rights? Please. I will laugh at you when you are marked a terrorist and US armies hunt you down. Not that I like the whole anti-terrorist thing from the US but I digress.”
What a ***** idiot.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/11/2007, -2/+74Apparently, if you feel strongly enough about something, everyone opposing you is a "terrorist" these days. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go tell the terrorist living in my house that I don't want brussels sprouts for dinner tonight.
- GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -2/+62How dare you insult brussel sprouts you terrorist.
- r5a2k3, on 10/11/2007, -3/+30I feel A LOT safer surfing, torrenting on TPB then anywhere else. They are going to stand up and not buckle down to ***** takedowns, warrants or anything. This new policy *****, wow. Talk about a lot of steps backwards, I don't think I'll be visiting those sites ever again.
TPB FTW! - MercedRocks, on 10/11/2007, -7/+33***** ISOHunt.........the site reads:
"What makes you think you have rights to content you didn’t produce? People’s rights vs. copyright holders’ rights? Please."
So why the hell else would people use the frickin site? To trade family videos or pics? Pfft, please.
Wake up and smell the piracy ISOHunt......... - mikeylopez, on 10/11/2007, -2/+25torrentspy and isohunt are only in it for the money, we must abandon them they are no longer an ally.
- cryptoki, on 02/01/2008, -1/+23Communists.. Terrorists????
Is that what we've come to believe about someone who's downloaded a song? even a single file. I dont agree with illegal downloading... but give me a break!!!
For someone who started a site like this.. its almost as if someone put a gun to his head.. and said.. you better say this OR ELSE... now thats what makes sense. - Grub, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21Its completely ridiculous how he just starts tossing out scare words. TPB's concerns about legit content being removed for unfair practices or being removed with out checking is a completely legit complaint with in the system, and something that will happen. I've lost all respect for this guy, not because of FileRights, but because he is an apparent idiot.
- jlebrech, on 10/11/2007, -1/+21Easy to fix. Torrents will just be called 1.torrent 2.torrent 3.torrent and people will just visit aliasing websites that give those torrents real names and/or have the pgp keys to decrypt.
- Izzie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20I wonder how many US people are aware that content producer and copyright owner have nothing in common and that each time copyright validity expiration approaches a new law is passed to extend it again and again. IINM last copyrighted content to become public domain due to copyright time expiration was for material copyrighted before 1923.
according to actual US law, in the USofA material from 1923 and after should become public domain in 2019, but we can reasonably assume that a new extension will be added to the law such a thing happens...
- 1790 copyright duration is a 14 years period, renewable once.
- 1831 copyright duration is a 28 years period, renewable once for 14 years.
- 1909 copyright duration is a 28 years period, renewable once for 28 years.
- 1976 copyright duration is author lifetime + 50 years
- 1996 copyright duration is author lifetime + 70 years
etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Act_of_1909
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Copyright_Act_of_1976
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act - cran, on 10/11/2007, -12/+28Usenet FTW.
- Nat3r, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16TPB is right about ISOHUNT and TORRENTSPY sleeping with the enemy, but it doesnt start there, it starts with them keeping their websites open, now its clear they arent doing it for us, they are doing it for themselves, and I wonder how many people still download from ISO and SPY thinking its safe, they dont put reminders on the top of their site, saying the feds are watching...it disgusts me
- Winston84, on 10/27/2007, -2/+16what is the difference between The Pirate Bay and Isohunt/Torrentspy ?
simple : The Pirate Bay talks the talk and walks the walk ; they run a tracker !
the two others just index the torrents on public trackers, half of them tracked by The Pirate Bay :
in short : they are free-riding or in p2p-lingo : they are leeching . - XxModestMousexX, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13So TPB is the only 'trustworthy' site to go to now?
- Ghoztt, on 10/11/2007, -11/+22Another spineless dog joins the enemy. Screw em' - FREEDOM FOREVER! PIRATES WE AM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- st3vo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12It's kind of hard when you are a 1 man (or very small) company in America. I suppose you have to put yourself in their shoes. But in other news, long live The Pirate Bay.
- tomz17, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11The first rule of usenet is you don't talk about usenet.
- infowolfe, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14actually, you're the douchebag... HE'S A ***** CANADIAN YOU RETARD.
- Crispin, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15Shhhhh. Quiet. Someone might hear.
- thisslowdecay, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Learn 2 PAR.
- Battleloser, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11He's pretty ***** preachy for being who he is.
- netzdamon, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Used to use torrentspy a lot soon as i read what there plans were i have not been back. I doubt they will last long without any support from users. Or lets hope.
- noots, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12it's suicide, more sites will arrive that don't implement this software. Basically the owners of torrentspy and isohunt are ***** themselves in the ass, the pirates won't lose out.
- Izzie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6simple: isohunt is not a tracker, it's a torrent aggregator. which means they do nothing but build a list of torrents tracked elsewhere, while thepiratebay is one of the most respected and active torrent tracker.
- zip000, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Sorry, but...."unevitable" ?!
- akinnee, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7what the ***** isohunt is my fav how could they do this?
- OBKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6The corporations are the terrorists.
And what would you call no-bid government contracts that are paid with by tax revenue? - championchap, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Well of course they want to make money.. you would have to be a ***** moron to get traffic like the pirate bay and not display ads on your site.
- AlexFerny, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5The sites host no illegal files, just hashes - which is not illegal. Its the extend to which the DMCA and such like legislation is flawed.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I agree with you. If the RIAA threaten me with suing me or let me go but doing what ISO and SPY are doing I think I do the same thing. The P2P lawsuits are very expensive...
- celkin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Whoever buried me is a terrorist.
- championchap, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Not since they started asking for donations.
- nogami, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Dunno, but I just deleted both torrentspy and isohunt from my bookmarks...
- TechCF, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Well, as long as the TBP tracker and torrent site run, I'm happy. But their system is vulnerable, we need more TBP-like trackers and torrent sites
- lukasmack, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4http://thepiratebay.org/legal
- XtremeBug, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I think the real problem is password protected rar files... damn bastards!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Oh for *****' sake. Stop talking about it in every torrent thread already.
- Izzie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5erm... actually when napster appeared, it was a really really crappy app in comparison to what has been available long before it. Napster was dead long before it shut down *cough* audiogalaxy *cough*.
microsoft still dominates because they managed through means I'm not gonna discuss here to bundle their OS with 99% of new computers. - radiometric, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Have you tried the internet with IE lately? Yuk! I didn't recognize most sites when they were infested with ads [I was setting up a network at my lil bro's and installed firefox as soon as I got the network back up].
- malkir, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Isn't the entire point of such sites that they don't host any of the content but are only a search engine for it? If that's the case dmca notices don't mean *****, if they are hosting content it's a different matter.
- Icebird, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It isn't Usenet... it's the release groups that split the files you kiddies end up downloading via torrents.
- fungilation, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4IH here.
Quoting myself from frontpage:
"First of all, we do filtering on links that's been identified for various reasons. It maybe virus infected files in torrents, it maybe copyright owners requesting takedown of links to their material. For copyright takedowns, we've long had a copyright policy and procedure for it. This is not censorship on content, this is filtering for identified abuse. Although DMCA has often been used as a way to censor, that's a problem with the DMCA and the "request and takedown" regime itself, and the way some websites blindly accept takedown requests.
While I claim to be no saint, we do random sampling on requested links and verify against the identity of the owner requesting their takedown. We have on occasions rejected requests due to situations like music companies requesting takedown of torrents that looks like porn. That also goes into problems of how do you know whether torrents are what they claim to be by their filenames, but that's another issue."
And from http://isohunt.com/dmca-copyright.php
"Note that as of Jan. 22, 2007, we have moved servers to Canada and is no longer subject to US DMCA laws. But we are keeping this copyright policy and procedure modeled after the DMCA, as it worked for us and for copyright owners in the past, and we find this procedure and takedown process to be mostly fair."
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Way to misquote me people. And isoHunt does not host a tracker, it's a search engine. Also, Google does have copyright takedown policy based on DMCA: http://www.google.com/dmca.html
The bottomline is, if you are an artist making music or producer making videos for a living, you will want copyright protection of your works, so you have discourse against unauthorized distribution IF YOU SO CHOOSE. I know many doesn't so who cares? There's OSS like Linux that relies on copyright for their license (GPL) and very much encourage BitTorrent distribution. And there's the public domain.
I'm for the fact that copyright laws need reform, whichever country you are in. But that has nothing to do with your hatred of the **AA.
Now that you have more than just my single flamatory quote, feel free to continue bashing. - championchap, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3http://radified.com/gfx/downloading_communism.jpg
- OBKenobi, on 10/27/2007, -2/+4They have turned to the Dark Side.
- TechCF, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Your logic only works in Europe ;)
- Yamoth, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5We're thieves and we're complaining about company making it harder and harder for us to safely steal stuff.
- celkin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"A pirate doesn't say 'okie-dokie then.' A pirate says 'arrgh.'"
- taseedorf, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I admit, I pirate a lot of stuff. I mean ALOT. I have roughly 1 terrabyte of movies (in divx format) and another 200 gigs in music. I have countless other gigs of software, books, roms, etc....but the fact remains...IT IS NOT RIGHT! You idiots out there who condone piracy... freedom of this, freedom of that... it's *****. Just an excuse for you to get all the free ***** you want. Understand that, dumbasses!!! I KNOW I'm doing something wrong and immoral, but at least I don't try to defend it. And to all you people who say it doesn't hurt the industries? HA! Just the other day my g/f picked up a cd and was going to buy it and said wait... "Tim, can't you just burn this for me?"
- shark72, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Those are great points... but let's face it, the vast majority of stuff we trade is recent music, films and software. Even if copyright law were rolled back to 1909 levels, it would still be illegal to share anything produced after 1979. So, sadly, this has little to do with the day-to-day business at tracker sites.
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