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- DarkZen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+58So much for College being a place of learning and freedom of speech.....
- knightblade2oo4, on 10/12/2007, -3/+59God damn this bull *****. I thought America was a democracy? Sounds pretty ***** fascist to me.
"The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy."
rage against the machine - Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -2/+33Stop giving them ideas with the spyware. Vote the traitors out of office in November.
- prthealien, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23The students, as always.
- Terc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty". -Thomas Jefferson
So I ask you all. Do you think that the general population fears the government's invasion of personal privacy?
edit: ephemerae, I see I was not the only one that had a quote come to mind. I didn't see your post until I submitted mine. - recipher, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23timmclargehuge, it's obvious you are the one that doesn't understand what's going on. Do some research and realize how this WILL be abused.
But but but Clinton!
Just because Clinton was the one who initiated the Act, we are supposed to stand behind it? Right, because people that disagree with stuff like this are all liberal sheep. - threepio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Is this a good time to pull out the words Double Plus Ungood?
- AngryPenguin47, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17What would Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, John Hancock or any of the other founding fathers think of this, or our nation as a whole at this point in our history? This nation was founded as a body of self-governing citizens with certain unalienable rights. I don't believe they would approve of our bloated government that is spying on its citizens at every turn.
Just my $.02 :( - ephemerae, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17"Fascism will come to America wrapped in the flag and bearing a cross." - Lewis.
- cyclotron, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19"Vote the traitors out of office in November."
The only way to get the "traitors" out of office is to close the office.
Remember:
The Gores are the ones who censored rock n roll (and everything else) in the 80s.
Clinton and Gore were behind the Clipper Chip and V Chip
Hilary Clinton is trying to censor video games....
No politician, of any party is trustworthy. - DrGonzo1184, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20"reliable transcripts from Fox"
ROFL!!! I never thought I would see reliable in the same sentance as Fox! - zweben, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15At my college, not only do we have to log in with a username and password every 24 hours just to stay connected to the net, but Windows users have to use 'clean access', which requires you to install the colleges choice of anti-virus, and if you don't update it, no internet. But of course, half the time you get logged off after your 24 hours and the anti-virus needs to be updated but it won't let you get on the internet to update so they have to find a Mac user and have them download the update and send it to the PC with a flash drive. Plus, the damn RIAA already scared the college into capping the bandwith of our T3 at *60kbps*, because god forbid we pirate anything, and now they want to spy on the 2kb of data we manage to transfer!?
I swear to god, if people ***** with our college internet connections any more, they're not going to have any web activity to spy on! - Godel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I wonder what percentage of diggers know that our police killed peaceful protestors at kent state.
- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14recipher, excellent points. Just because someone prior to Bush started pushing nonsense doesn't mean we have to put up with it now. Enough is enough. The Feds need to show more compelling reasons why they need all this access and with more oversight, two small items that are currently MIA in Washington.
- baltakatei, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Out with one despised leader and in with another~
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13fox news is liberal? what's moderate conservative? "deutschland uber alles"?
- recipher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Seriously. Wonder who is going to have to foot the bill for this.
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13well, dick cheney's rider specifies they leave hotel TVs on fox news, and bush's new press secretary is straight out of fox news.
"fox news gives you both sides of the story, the president's side and the vice president's side" - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+113rd party time, baby.
- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Fox News is a neo-con cheerleader. Neo-cons are the greatest threat to the United States since WWII.
- Darq1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11But they really aren't doing anything to stop it right? Letting evil pass you by and do its thing is the same as creating and releasing the evil itself.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10this is very distrubing indeed. university is often a fountain of free and orginal thought, and if you were out to crush liberal ideals it would be a place to start.
control what people think from a young age and you can mold the future into what ever you want. - doghand, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Does anyone believe college students are a threat to national security rather than a political threat?
- bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@thecolor11
Oh my god.. you really openned my eyes to the dangers the US of A faces from college professors..
you might be interested in some research I've been conducting.
"man with brown hair rapes girl"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/southern_counties/4926482.stm
"Man with tie convicted of corruption and fraud"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8069-2005Apr21.html
The first step should be to ship off all brown haired professors with ties to the gulag! FOR THE CHILDREN! - jschunick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I hope they are only talking to PUBLIC universities. I go to a PRIVATE university in Boston and I would hope that with all the money they are getting from its students that they would have the balls to at least TRY and stand up to the FBI. IMO, the FBI has no right to do this.
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8remember kent state.
- nebrfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8No - and it's not right. I am very much a libertarian and am disturbed at recent attacks at privacy. I just want people to do a little reading before they reflexively attack Bush - it doesn't matter if there is a R or D after the name, politicians want power - either for themselves, or for their followers.
- sirsteveh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9While this is very important news, it should be noted that the FBI has been trying to get universities to implement this for some time.
The main issue is not concern for your civil rights - follow the money. It would cost a LOT of money to add an infrastructure to have the FBI sniff communications on top of any current stuff. The alternative, of course, is to have mandatory spyware on student computers. Perhaps the FBI would do well to invest in the MyWay Search Assistant or something. ;) - Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I don't know about that. Democracies can easily turn into mobs. Either way, you have to stay informed to have a chance at protecting your rights and freedoms.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Geee, this must be because colleges are *full* of terrorists!
/sarcasm - earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Ah yes, the "liberal is a bad thing argument". Good one.
Talk about pathetic. - superal1394, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8What happened to freedom of speech? to PRIVACY. What is the deal with this country. Bush and his paranoia will start the next world war.
- MalDON, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14I think this is interesting:
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
quoted from:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/Bush/bush_trashes_constitution_few_notice.htm - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8College student to totalitarians: I vote, and ***** You.
- Jangles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Holy crap the is nuts. I am happy that I live in Canada :p
- earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Facts? To measure up to your facts? Oh thats right, straight from the gut!
So I guess throwing Japanese AMERICANS in concentration camps "just in case" is ok because "hey! it was war and we let em out right?? No harm no foul"
Remember the Alien and Sedition acts? How has history judged that?
You criticize a movie I quoted so lets take the less digestible facts you are asking for. Remember Nazi Germany? It was founded on arguments like yours (and no i am not calling you or anyone else a Nazi, thats up to you). Arguments that inspired fear. Fear that begot weakness and willingness to forget. "Its war time!" When will it ever stop being wartime? And even so, war time is the time we must, more than ever, have our wits about us. We must keep out eyes on the prize more than ever cause if we don;t and we forget about that goal we sat out for then what are we even fighting for? Do you remember anymore? I suspect not with comments like "terrorist-excusing".... According to you, terrorists founded this country.
And what concerns me more than anything is your, and many others who share your views, and your complete lack of respect for anything but your own hide.
"wiretapping shouldn't offend you unless you have anything to hide. Only suspected terrorists are wiretapped, do you have reason to believe you are among that group?"
This is absolutely absurd. If one person is violated we all are. Despite your lack compassion for your fellow man you are decidedly shortsighted. Such violation only leads to more. Give a power hungry government a taste and they always come back thirsty. Again, Nazi Germany is a striking model. "Hell, I am not Jewish or gay or whatever so why should I care? I am safe".
Let me invoke the words of someone wiser than any of us...
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin.
And for 5 years we have had it stuffed down our throats that these terrorists are attacking our very way of life but it is obvious to me the only one attacking our way of life is those in power right now and everyone that is weak enough to follow them. Terrorists have not restricted our rights, enacted laws that seek to scare us in to behaving, wiretapped us under the guise of safety and on and on. Our government has declared war on its own people. Its a quiet war with tactics to deceive, confuse, and install fear. I, for one, will not have it.
Once again:
"Give me liberty or give me death" - Patrick Henry - earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"How is this against the Constitution?
Just becuase you saw some lame movie and can copy and paste a line of dialogue doesn't make you any more knowledgeable on the subject. This is obvious."
Man open you eyes. My comment as a whole is not just in reference to the wiretapping at hand but the greater state of our country. The Constitution has been ignored and bastardized more times in the last few years than I could count. Nonetheless if this wiretapping doesnt concern you, you are absolutely blind and have no understanding of what this country was founded for, nor the pitfalls a capitalistic society has to fall through to set it self on a path to Fascism. If that doesn't set off any alarms for you maybe you should take a trip over to wikipedia.
One does not even have to understand the implications of all that is going on to understand the attack on our freedom we are experencing. At its base level, everyone should understand how outrageous it is.
And yes I quoted a movie. Why rewrite what was already said perfectly? Its done all the time. Hence the invention of the quotation mark. I didn't forget to use them did I? - cgranade, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8OK. Take this guy's word for it... this is the source of the story.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml
Can find more where that came from by Googling for "goddamn piece of paper." - darkten, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Now see...What you young people should do is get OFF digg, OFF the SA forums, OFF XboxLive...stop blogging...
And go to the library...check out History Channel. See how its been done before. It wasn't by spouting off online :)
Ya need to find some cameras :D
Become *active* in the outside world around you. Trust me, young folks have a way of distrupting the process here in ways that haven't been seen in like 35-40 years.
I suggest you all do some voting and protesting this go 'round.
Seriously. - cyclotron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7The people should not fear the government, the government should fear the people - V for Vendetta
- SirCharge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Ironic that not only do they want to strip away privacy, they want the students to foot the bill. I already paid my taxes, use that to strip away my personal freedoms!
- randomc0de, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Why SHOULDN'T colleges be subject to the same wiretapping laws that everyone else is?"
No one should be subject to them. These sorts of laws are inevitably abused. The potential is there to eavesdrop on communications without a warrant, and that potential will eventually be realized. We can start with colleges, because they are the holy houses of our civilization. Universities are only one of many fronts. - livestradamus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9America is not a Democracy but it is a Republic. There are similarities but there's 1 huge difference. In a Democracy people represent themselves, in a Republic the people choose representatives to represent us.
I think I'd choose to have a TRUE Democracy than a Republic any day. - Wamzlee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Actually, the point that is alarming from the article is how serious the people at the Federal level are about wiretapping. Also, students are going to have to pay for this. I already pay $13,000 a year for college, and the costs are just getting ridiculous. What America needs most is to put their money towards education, not a bunch of ***** fees and expenses.
- CyberTroll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Just think, the Fed's will accidentally leak the information to the RIAA and BAM a fresh wave of lawsuits.
- tuna1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Every CS student should already have an OpenBSD firewall from the rest of the network.
- earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Welcome to the new world.
The Constitution as toilet paper. The Gestapo (aka Homeland Security, NSA...) around every corner. Wiretapping, censoring, and the loss of rights.
If we let this go any further it is only our fault. I fear a Revolution of sorts is in our future.
"And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance, and depression. And where once you had the freedom to object, think, and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now Chancellor..." - V For Vendetta - Wamzlee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4*wiretaps and includes it in filefolder*
JimXungle: Real Name: James Daniel Wicker of 455 Western Drive, Redville, Washington, USA. Phone number (507) 555-3487. Internet chat/phone transcripts enclosed. Recent Activity: Objectible image posted. Terrorist Threat: Elevated (yellow) -
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