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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13This story is just so false it boggles the mind:
http://digg.com/links/Iran_eyes_badges_for_Jews
The Iranian parilment passed no such law. The entire source for the story is an American living Iranian expartiate with a political axe to grind. And the story was only printed in a neo conservative sponsored rag. For you information (and I know some of you won't believe this), Iran has been and continues to be a peaceful country.
The following is fact:
In the 27 years since the Iranian Revolution, the United States has launched air strikes on Libya, invaded Grenada, put Marines in Lebanon and run air strikes in the Bekaa Valley and Chouf Mountains in retaliation for the Beirut bombing.
We invaded Panama, launched Desert Storm to liberate Kuwait and put troops into Somalia. Under Clinton, we occupied Haiti, fired cruise missiles into Sudan, intervened in Bosnia, conducted bombing strikes on Iraq and launched a 78-day bombing campaign against Serbia, a nation that never attacked us. Then, we put troops into Kosovo.
After the Soviet Union stood down in Eastern Europe, we moved NATO into Poland and the Baltic states and established U.S. bases in former provinces of Russia's in Central Asia.
Under Bush II, we invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, though it appears Saddam neither had weapons of mass destruction nor played a role in 9-11.
Yet, in this same quarter century when the U.S. military has been so busy it is said to be overstretched and exhausted, Iran has invaded not one neighbor and fought but one war: an 8-year war with Iraq where she was the victim of aggression. And in that war of aggression against Iran, we supported the aggressor.
Hence, when Iran says that even as we have grievances against her, she has grievances against us, does Iran not have at least a small point? And when Russian President Putin calls Bush's America "Comrade Wolf," does he not have at least a small patch of ground on which to stand?
Which brings me to the point. There is no reason to believe Iran wants war with us. If she did want war with America, she could have had it any time in the last 27 years. If she did want war with America, all the old ayatollah had to do was continue holding those American hostages after Ronald Reagan raised his right hand. He didn't. As Reagan recited the oath, the hostages were clearing Iranian air space.
In all those years, Iran has never attacked the United States and has been tied to but one terror attack against us: the Khobar Towers 10 years ago. No evidence has been found that Iran had any role in 9-11, the first attack on the World Trade Center, the suicide attack on the U.S.S. Cole or the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania.
Comes the reply. Iran was almost surely behind the bombing of the U.S. Embassy and Marine barracks in Lebanon in 1983 and the hostage-taking of the Reagan era. Iran supports Hezbollah and Hamas and plotted the bombing of the Jewish community center in Buenos Aires, and Herr Ahmadinejad routinely promises the eradication of Israel.
But if he wants a war with Israel, he could have it tomorrow by launching rockets. If he wants war with America, Bush and Cheney will accommodate him. He has done neither.
Ahmadinejad is behaving like a man provoking us to hit him, but not too hard, so he can play the "victim" of U.S. "aggression" without winding up in the hospital or the morgue.
For while Iran's regime might benefit from heroically enduring U.S. strikes to destroy its nuclear facilities %u2013 none of which is near producing atom-bomb material %u2013 a major war would be a disaster for Iran. Not only would the regime be denuded of modern weapons, it would be set back decades to where the Arabs, Azeris, Baluchis and Kurds might try to break the country up, even as Iraq is breaking up.
But this would be a disaster for the United States as well. For an attack on Iran would unify Persians in hatred of America, the way Pearl Harbor unified Americans. And a breakup of Iran could create a new archipelago of terrorist training camps across the Middle East.
What we are getting at is that there is common ground between the United States and Iran. Neither of us would benefit from a major war. Both of us benefit if there is a reliable flow of oil and gas out of the Gulf and Central Asia. Neither of us wants to see the return of the Taliban or rise of al-Qaida, which is anti-Shiite. In his 18-page letter, Ahmadinejad powerfully condemned the massacre of 9-11.
And Tehran must be having second thoughts about whether to go nuclear when that could mean Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Egypt might follow suit, and the United States and Israel would put a hair trigger on their missile arsenals, and target them on Tehran.
Better to talk. To test the waters, President Bush might take up Ahmadinejad's missive, manifest the same respect for Islam that he showed for Jesus of Nazareth, rebut his attacks on America and lay down what Bush would like to see in a future relationship with Iran.
We have much to talk about: terror, nuclear power, Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, oil, what we owe Iran and what Iran owes us. - cameron074, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4damn conflicting reports. can we get an official statement or what?
- shout, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This articles says it did 2 years ago. Anyone know if that's true?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3> damn conflicting reports. can we get an official statement or what?
Naw.... unofficial propaganda tastes much better. - monolith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Except it isn't a reprint of the original one. Did you even READ either one? Or do comedians define your font for truth? Can they NEVER be wrong and funny? The story may indeed be from the same source material and informants... but I think it is at least different reporters and or editors.
But then again it could still be false, or just both stories are a blatant regurgitation of a (potentially false) press release. Grain of salt and all that... though I notice that you don't seem to use the same amount of salt with your information from a comedian. Interesting that. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5The original story is false. It is from an Iranian expatriate.
Remember the informant code named curveball that was the source for all the WMD claims against Iraq in the build up to our war there? Same deal. A single guy with an ax to grind feeding his neo-polotical partner the false information they seek. - thenativeraver, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4That's lame this is nothing more than the "We must invade Iran" propaganda that the media has been throwing around for the last year.
- monolith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060519-105912-5198r
again... is the UPI a right wing rag? Could still be bogus... I've not trusted much of the press for a long time. - IbnDigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Some Iranian repatriates are still pissed of with ass kicking they got during the popular revolution.
Power to the people I say - gbotmbot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3digg is full of crap, take ever story with a grain of salt
- shoover, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2National Post are 'extreme right wing zionists' hey?
They have been blatantly liberal in their view here in Canada, even to the point of firing publishers that printed stories with a conservative slant. The funny thing is a Canadian Liberal is FAR more left wing and socialist than mainstream US liberals, and our gay marriage laws and socialist economy show it. I don't dispute that NP has a slant, and I am not claiming that they are even correct - just to call them right-wing has got to be the stupidest thing I've heard.
From the CanWest wiki:
Since Israel Asper's leadership of the Manitoba Liberal Party, the Asper family has been identified with Liberal politics and politicians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canwest - GoNoles, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4"The national dress plan was approved in Majlis by 137 votes in favor, 45 against, and 11 abstentions."
http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-16/0605158004121559.htm
Source description: "The Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) was established in 1934 by the Foreign Ministry of Iran as the country's official national news outlet." - canadianguy33, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I don't know but it seems highly skeptical that there's no other news sources for this story.
- shoover, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Its funny that the National Post is considered a 'right-wing' rag, when they are BLATANT liberal supporters here in Canada.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2ynetnews would probably be one of the least credible sources concerning
Israel vs. anything Islam related. - monolith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Oh yea, boingboing is a centrist source of info... sure.
How about the UPI?
http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060519-105912-5198r - monolith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060519-105912-5198r
How about UPI for a news source... still could be bogus... but if you were a betting man where would you place your money? - evil-doer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2the national post is run by extreme right wing zionists. theyve been caught many times lying and changing stories to suit their agenda.
- JeffT1545, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Regardless, I just wanted to put the link out there. People can decide for themselves.
- matrox212, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3This story needs to get to the front page.
- brachiator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Juan Cole also reports that this rumor is false, just as the "wipe Israel off the map" canard was a vicious mistranslation.
Regardless, it must be kept in mind that the Bush Admin and others are currrently trying to whip up a war against Iran, for a variety of reasons. Every bit of "news" about Iran has to be viewed from the perspective that the wool is being readied to cover our eyes. Anyone remember the great threat of Iraq from a few years back? Those were trustworthy reports... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2For a humorous reason on why the false story would be leaked, watch Colbert explain it all:
http://www.codebot.org/articles/?doc=9455&score=5 - JeffT1545, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Another helpful link, this one stating that the law did in fact pass.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3252830,00.html - JeffT1545, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1The National Post, the main source for the story, apparently has been in hot water before, and has a "vicious, right-wing editorial slant" according to BoingBoing. The pieces are falling into place.
http://www.boingboing.net/2001/08/24/the_national_post_ca.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@monolith Yeah, keep repeating it and maybe someone will bite. The article you keep posting is a reprint of the original one. No new news there, just the same same quotes from an expatriate informant employed over here. Not credible, and certainly he has a motive for making stories. For a humorous view on why all this negitive iranian press, watch Colbert skewer the people beating these wardrums:
http://www.codebot.org/articles/?doc=9455&score=5 - tthomas1529, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0propaganda, it doesn’t matter if it's true, it never has.
- neoknight, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3I can't believe that people who come to digg can be so stupid as to believe a story like this.
http://digg.com/links/Iran_eyes_badges_for_Jews
This just goes to show how ignorant and dumbfounded people can be when it comes to something to incite adrenalin and false stories to make somebody else look bad ESPECIALLY when it come to something they don't understand and choose to ignore and not learn about. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2your momma did
- WickedDrag0oN, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2did too
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