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- alpha88, on 07/17/2009, -0/+25"The investigation also raised significant concerns around the sharing of users’ personal information with third-party developers creating Facebook applications such as games and quizzes. (There are more than 950,000 developers in some 180 countries.) Facebook lacks adequate safeguards to effectively restrict these outside developers from accessing profile information, the investigation found."
Good to see this will be changed, Facebook (and all social networking websites, for that matter) really don't take privacy seriously. - Solkre, on 07/17/2009, -8/+31If you don't want someone to see it, please don't put it online.
- zyklon, on 07/17/2009, -0/+19Facebook has a problem with privacy and datamining/hoarding in the first place, regardless of countries' policies. I've been arguing with Facebook for 2 years to COMPLETELY remove an email address I used for logging in, but I can still log in with it, meaning they've still got it in their little dossier.
Their hoarding of personal data + their willingness to go ridiculously public and worldwide makes me think they're working for some shady government agency
/Foil hat, etc - eadnams, on 07/17/2009, -4/+23Ironic that the "Socialist" country of Canada has stricter personal privacy laws than the "Land of the free".
- kmoed, on 07/17/2009, -0/+17Try reading the article people. This is not about what people post but what facebook DOES with that information. You can delete everything you have on your facebook site, but THEY STILL RETAIN THE INFORMATION.
The whole point of what they are trying to get across here is that when a user deletes information it SHOULD BE DELETED. Not hoarded by the owners of the website to do what they will with it.
Facebook certainly gives you the impression that you are in control of your page and the content you post. If that's not the case they need to be a little clear with their intentions. The Government is doing the right thing here. - lornefs, on 07/17/2009, -0/+17Spoken like a true moron.
- Sunsneezer, on 07/17/2009, -1/+16My country is actually doing something meaningful and useful about a technological issue? I'm genuinely impressed!
Still, ***** Harper. - cygnus2112, on 07/17/2009, -1/+16Having worked with the API before, the commissioner is absolutely right. There are some things that you really don't need to know/extract from the API.
At the very least, it should have a window below acceptance showing which fields that the application is going to gather from your Facebook account. Right now, it's open to abuse. - TomK88, on 07/17/2009, -0/+15And Americans wonder why they have the global reputation they do...
It's too bad a select few give a bad name to a great country. - CozySar, on 07/17/2009, -0/+14It's not just free capitalism. It's the country where big money can totally ***** over Joe Six Pack and still be legal about it. In that regard the US is rather unique.
- phpirate, on 07/17/2009, -2/+14If you had a facebook page, I doubt you'd have any friends.
- cygnus2112, on 07/17/2009, -1/+13He doesn't have any friends, thus no need to create a Facebook account. Unless he really likes Gang Wars and lame quizzes.
- neoform, on 07/17/2009, -0/+11If they do business in Canada, they're bound by Canadian laws.
If they refuse to change their policy, the Canadian government can impose sanctions on them, such as blocking all access to their site within Canada. - phpirate, on 07/17/2009, -1/+12It's a good read, with good points.
- alpha88, on 07/17/2009, -0/+11We pay with taxes.
- HonoredMule, on 07/17/2009, -2/+12I always assumed the last word was silent: i.e. not "Land of the Free Citizens," but "Land of the Free Capitalism."
- Solkre, on 07/17/2009, -2/+11The obligatory "financial information" reply came quicker than I thought.
I'm not talking about financial and federal institutions here. Those are becoming required to work efficiently in our society.
I am referring to the websites that cater to people wanting to broadcast their lives to the world, MySpace, Facebook and Twitter being the popular three right now. If you want to eWhore your personal life that's fine, but remember the point of these sites is to SHARE your information. I would consider absolutely nothing on these sites private in any way. - CoreyTamas, on 07/17/2009, -0/+8"gaycebook"
You do realize, I hope, that this is the sort of thing smart people laugh at when they're joking about stupid people. Yes? - cliptip, on 07/17/2009, -0/+8I don't get the majority of the commentary here. The Canadian privacy laws are not about what you should put on Facebook. It's about what Facebook should be allowed to do with it (including archiving it indefinitely, sharing it with unauthorized third parties, or selling it). The face that Facebook's terms are mutable and ill-defined is the point of contention.
- eadnams, on 07/17/2009, -0/+7The founding fathers never anticipated PAC's and Campaign Donations...
- Sunsneezer, on 07/17/2009, -0/+7Is this sarcasm or envy?
- insertAliasHere, on 07/17/2009, -1/+7Both of you shut the ***** up.
- CrimsonFlash, on 07/17/2009, -0/+6Yes, but if a website runs and operates in Canada in part of the company as a whole, then they must follow Canadian laws.
That's like saying "Since I am an American, I can steal in Canada, because I don't live there, therefore that law does not apply to me."
You agree to a specific country's laws the moment you come into it. Facebook may not expressibly be in Canada, but since it is open to Canadian citizens, it must follow those laws. - serif69, on 07/17/2009, -0/+6It stands to reason that a social networking site really wouldn't pay too much attention to people's information getting public. Isn't that the entire point of a social networking site? You're posting all kinds of sensitive information for all your friends (and the world) to see. To then be concerned with your privacy is hypocritical. It's like a chick wearing a shirt with a plunging neckline and then yelling at you for looking, because her ***** hanging out weren't intended for you. If you don't want it out there, don't put it out there.
- 3Den, on 07/17/2009, -0/+5I do not believe the privacy commission has the power to force ISPs to block content.
- ScissorHand26, on 07/17/2009, -0/+5I think they can block sites depending on what said site does. For instance, I imagine the Canadian government reserves the right to block out any site hosting child porn.
- skinturtle, on 07/17/2009, -0/+5Then don't let people take pictures of you holding up cannabis.
- CozySar, on 07/17/2009, -0/+5The govt has to babysit. Because - as is well known - ordinary people are just ***** stupid.
- Opiate, on 07/17/2009, -0/+4You'd be surprised if you followed the money.
- BionicAntboy, on 07/17/2009, -0/+4@ 3Den: the Privacy Commissioner doesn't have the power, but if there is a violation (Facebook or otherwise), she does have the power to take it to the Federal court for a ruling.
If the ruling is in line with the Commissions findings, then the court could enforce sanctions. - UselessTrivia, on 07/17/2009, -0/+4So maybe Solkre should have said "please don't share it online". That stuff is online, but it's definitely not public. You can't just push a button and send your tax return out for the world to see. You'd have to do that all on your own, and you'd have no one to blame but yourself.
People get a false sense of security on facebook because of the privacy settings, but nobody but you should ever have access to your online banking. If they do it's because you yourself are a retard and gave out your login, or you are the victim of a hack, but that would have nothing to do with privacy...that's a separate debate over security. - alpha88, on 07/17/2009, -0/+4My country is actually doing something meaningful and useful about an issue? I'm genuinely impressed!
Fixed. And yes, Harper is a tool. - TomK88, on 07/17/2009, -5/+9Considering all of my financial information is online (taxes, credit cards, bank accounts, stocks, etc.), that is not a very realistic statement.
- zyklon, on 07/17/2009, -0/+3No. No I wouldn't. I'm not much of a foil hat person, but I do know that money talks, and enough money will spoil even the purest of intentions.
- UselessTrivia, on 07/17/2009, -1/+4Amen.
Not only do I lock the ***** out of my facebook page so that only friends can see anything besides my basic info, I also don't post anything that I wouldn't want made public, because if they wanted to, any one of those people could post a screenshot of my facebook profile, download and redistribute my photos, etc...
Just because you have high profile security does not mean you should feel free to behave like a retard. - neoform, on 07/17/2009, -0/+3The judicial system has absolute power when it comes to business operations. If a business breaks the law, the government has the power to deny them access to Canadian markets. This isn't a censorship issue, this is a legal issue.
- 3Den, on 07/17/2009, -5/+8Facebook isn't run on servers out of Canada, and isn't a Canadian company.... so while they may be cooperating, and most of those laws probably make really good sense anyway - is Facebook under Canadian jurisdiction?
(I'm Canadian, BTW)
That said - I have no problem with the Canadian privacy commissioner investigating and advising Canadians of potential issues. That's cool. So is cooperation on privacy issues. - BionicAntboy, on 07/17/2009, -0/+3No, this is a complaint from the Privacy Commissioner, based on the Canadian Privacy Act, and has to do with a lot more than just Superpokes.
The reason I don't put personal info on Facebook is precisely BECAUSE of its data retention. When I delete an account, all data should be deleted within a month. - piieerrrree, on 07/17/2009, -0/+3It's never actually deleted, just "temporarily closed down".
As soon as you re-enter your email and password to Facebook, they send you an email congratulating you for returning. - TBagwell, on 07/17/2009, -0/+3what's facebook?
- unixfg, on 07/17/2009, -0/+3I removed an old address last week, and can no longer use it to login. They may have fixed this.
- diggdowner, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2Jeez... where are all those "Facebook > MySpace" chest-pounders now??
As far as I know, when you delete a MySpace account, it actually gets deleted! - pdileepa, on 07/18/2009, -0/+2Did you guys know that Facebook has a setting that defaults to 'Yes' that allows them use your pictures in any Facebook Ad. Turn it off here: http://www.facebook.com/privacy/?view=feeds&ta ... (disable Adblock Plus for the setting to show!)
Facebook is the sneakiest social network. - BionicAntboy, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2Far from it. She's right that if one deletes an account from a website, personal data should be ERASED in a timely manner.
- alpha88, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2@robweber: Facebook makes a profit from advertisements that Canadians view and click on. They also sell that advertising space, and sell those retarded $1 gift things. However, I'm not positive that has any effect, I think it needs to operate within the laws regardless.
Also, the MPAA example really isn't a good one, since the Bittorrent websites aren't actually breaking any laws. The MPAA just wants to shut them down regardless of the legality. - eanbowman, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2LOL so you speak about it on the public comments field in Digg, hunh? ;)
- antdude, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2I got kicked off Facebook for using a fake datas. Other places like MySpace, Friendster, etc. didn't care.
- B1ackmath, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2idk. Maybe this is a recent thing or something but I just tried logging in and there's no sign of my account at all. That's not to say they don't still have all of my data and pics, but *I* can't access them anymore.
- outreach417, on 07/18/2009, -0/+2There's already tons of US sites Canadians and other countries can't access. Like Hulu, regular iTunes store, SciFi channel videos,other online music sites etc etc the web servers sniff your ip and then deliver a content not available page. That's US entertainment copyright laws running the interweb. Meh! Who cares there are only about 8,000,000,000 other sites.
- B1ackmath, on 07/17/2009, -1/+3This is why I deleted my FB account over a year ago.
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