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- tsunamisteve, on 10/12/2007, -19/+65I don't like this guy's argument. He says that no new information is being shared and that the privacy options haven't changed. He also says that everyone will learn to enjoy being in the news feed. Perhaps, but why not give users privacy settings to pick and choose what gets added to the feed?
For example, if I add photos I don't mind people immediately seeing thumbnails of them, but if I end a relationship with someone I don't really want all 200 or so of my friends knowing right away. The concept of what Facebook added is great, but the executation needs some tweaking and the Facebook development team is going to have to suck it up and admit that those changes have to happen. - bennyboy371, on 10/12/2007, -2/+46Don't pull that blog spam *****. You posted a link on your blog to facebook's official blog and just copied his posting.
Here you go, guys:
http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=2208197130 - csfreakazoid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26If you go to your own minifeed, you can remove articles and it will remove them from everyone elses news feed, but you cant prevent articles from appearing in the first place
- noliberalbull, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24howabout not posting every detail of your life on facebook... wouldnt that take care of it?
- jawbreaker4fs, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22@dnite
Yes. There is.. each of your mini-feed items has a little 'x' next to it. If you don't want people to see that you've changed/edited your facebook information, they don't have to know. - plnegative1, on 10/12/2007, -9/+27...for people screaming "loss of privacy":
It doesn't reveal anything that is not already shown on Facebook - so I personally don't see why the hell it matters. It's public to your networks so it's still a public place on the internet. If people are worried about people looking at their account then they should delete it because hundreds of people THEY DONT KNOW probably see their facebook page everyday. - AssProphet, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19I'm probably a minority here, but I'm pretty amazed at the information people will share on facebook. I like the idea of using it for academic networking, but to me, putting your personal lives on display on a website you don't control is pretty foolish. I'd just have a link to my blog for all the personal stuff as I never can be sure what someone else is doing with my data.
- jawbreaker4fs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13There's already a firefox plugin that has done this for ages.
http://www.fbstalker.com
It's funny that the extension is called "Facebook Stalker," because now it seems like Facebook is advocating users stalking one another. - zeptobyte, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14You can click and X to remove any item you want from the portion of the feed about you, but there's no option to simply not add them at all, or to remove them in bulk. But yes, if there's a piece of information you don't want everyone to immediately see, you can just remove it.
- NeMeSiS187, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11You know... the ironic thing is that most of the people who joined the anti-facebook group there found out about it through the mini-feed. LOL!!!
- jawbreaker4fs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Think about it this way...
Say I follow Joe around all day, and automatically publish everything he's doing to the web.
"Joe gets a cup of coffee at Starbucks"
"Joe pays with a $5 bill and gets $2.80 in change"
"Joe turns west on 5th Street"
....
You get the point.
All of this information is technically publicly available, but not centrally consolidated into a journal of events. Granted, the Facebook scenario is different.. but the same type of argument could be made to justify this type of thinking. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13I actually really like the feed, it's interesting, and it keeps you from having to go to all of your friends' pages to see what they're up to.
- Sophren, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14@plnegative1
There's actually a very large difference here.
Instead of posting semi-discreetly on a friend's wall, what happens now basically translates to: "HAY GUYS, LOOK WHAT I JUST POSTED ON STEVE'S WALL, LOL!" - scotty588, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I like the new features. If you don't want people knowing about you then don't sign up for an account or put the information there. The point of the profiles is to share information.
- PackerX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Personally, I love the feeds. Seeing the message, "Rachael has updated her profile," then spending 10 minutes figuring out that all she did was remove a quote from her list o' quotes drove me nuts.
- robweber, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10so after 1 day you're sick of it already (maybe 2 days now). i agree that nothing new is really being shared. if someone in your network were so inclined they could look at your page any day of the week and see what you upated. Facebook already had a mechanism in place to sort your friends based on who updated their profile last, now it is just displayed right away when they log in.
i think they should have an option that will blcok out certain actions if you want, like if you want information in your "personal" area not to show up, but when you post picutres or join a group to have it displayed, but the overall concept of the feed is really nice. - Bob042, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Probably because it's an actual original article, not a "Go read this article, but get me ad revenue first" without actually contributing much.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9They won't lose any users. The existing users can bitch and moan all they want, but they'll still use facebook.
- piratebill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I love how facebook justified the feed.
"maybe if your friends are all going to a party, you want to know so you can go too"
or maybe they didnt invite you for a reason : - doddilus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6they will loose exactly 0% of people...because you can't remove your facebook profile, you can only "disable" it.
- e3mw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7This has been blown WAY out of proportion. This a textbook case of the Internet as an echo-chamber. The shouts of a discouraged few are being heard louder than the people who are actually enjoying the new service because they aren't wasting their time crying about it. I personally enjoy the new updates and it's a big leap for facebook in-so-far-as assuring it's dominance as a dynamic social network arena for the time being. Sure people are mad that it has become more "stalker friendly" as they say but if these loud-mouthed crybabies manage to get these features removed (which they wont) there will be just as many groups that pop up saying "Bring back the mini-feed!" etc.
Folks need quit bitching about it and let things settle, and POLITELY send their concerns and comments through the proper channels at facebook, and things will work themselves out. Like TechCrunch says, all Mark needs to do is make the features optional and let all of the naysayers figure out on their own that they actually like the feature. If not, they can take their interests elsewhere to another social network that connects nearly every college campus in America where all their friends are... oh right... there isn't another one. Shucks! - Irco, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9did Joe get caf or decaf?
- bluefire0728, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Facebook exists as a kind of online phone directory or extended white pages listings. I've found it useful in not only keeping in touch with my friends, but also looking up people who are in my classes and recalling assignments from class.
- newtonapple, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I don't know why people keep on saying there's no new information are given away. One new info that was not there before is time stamps for my activities. It's one thing to have data sitting on you page, it's another to have a chronological listing of that data. More information is obviously exposed when you add the time dimension. Honestly, I don't need everyone to know the exact time I add a new friend. I think giving me to option to control who can see what is essential.
- Phatt138, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5mc4: Exactly.
Ask yourself - do people need to know I took a class with and then kissed Lauren Whositz? And if there IS anyone who needs to know, can't I just...ya know...tell them? Especially when one considers the fact that Facebook is being datamined by colleges (checking out both current students and highschool graduates), possible employers, and potentially the Feds, you'd be foolish to consider anything private. Your privacy is in no way effected - the only difference is that now you're getting a visual reminder of just how accessible your 'private' musings really are. Consider it a reality check. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7They couldn't just make it so users can customize what they broadcast on their news feeds? (For those that want some privacy) ... or turn them off if you don't want to read them?
Besides, what is broadcast is only what you allow in your privacy settings anyway. But an extra feature to customize WHAT is broadcast would be nifty. - SpikyDemon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+81) You can omit ANYTHING you don't want on the feed by going to your profile and clicking the "x" by the object in question
2) Facebook recognized the problem that MySpace has with speed and attempted to resolve it. Calm the f*** down. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"If you don't want your friends to know... then don't put it on your ***** facebook. Come on... use your brain now... "
I have this truley think that people say they dont want other people to see their information but secretly are screaming for as much attention as they can get. People want to bitch about the injustices of their privacy but end up spilling their guts on a public forum until it is spotlighted in some form or fashion, a mob mentality occurs and Johhny Q. Dumbass is suddenly screaming that his privacy is being exploited when two minutes earlier he had freshly posted up pictures of a frat party he had attended last saturday where the obvious illegal wacky tabacky is being passed around. - yutt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I want to make sure I have this right.
People are posting personal information about themselves on a website, and are upset other people can see this information?
What, pray tell, was the purpose of displaying the information if you don't want others to see it? - totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Love how he addresses his users as if they were 7 years old. "Calm Down. Breathe."
Surprised he didn't give them a "time out". - nights0223, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6"No new information is being made available about users."
No one is complaining that there is new information being shared. The point is that everyone's every move is publicly announced. - radiofrequency, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3At one point or another, every social website will have to make a choice about either gathering more personal information about its users or making uploaded content more accessible faster in order to encourage more responsible "content"/posts. Given the choices, I think facebook picked the non-evil choice.
- Bob042, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5The problem isn't that the feature is there, it's that there's no way to control the privacy. If you don't want notices of every little thing you do popping up all over, you can't turn it entirely or in sections off. You have to filter though your own news feed and delete particular ones from showing up, but they showed up for a while anyways.
- e3mw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Well considering that's how most of these crybabies are acting It seems like the most appropriate tone he could use for a post like that.
- ShadowNetworks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I honestly was hoping to pick up a stalker by sharing everything I do on the RSS feed... being a computer geek is sometimes lonely and a decent looking stalker would be nice...
Honestly, nothing's changed, and the groups like "I was Violated by Facebook" are just insanely rediculous. You can withdraw your profile at anytime and remove any information you want. The revolt is a bunch of whiney college students who have TOO MUCH TIME to dedicate to causes that may actually help someone for real... - e3mw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"I think a new privacy setting should be in place for "Only allow my friends to see my feed." Then, the only thing that the user would have to do would be to carefully choose who he or she was actually friends with."
People who aren't your friends can't view your feed in the first place.
Go hear it from the horse's mouth:
http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=2208197130 - NikhilPK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I just think the new layout is complete crap. I don't mind if the feed is available but I would the option of using the older layout without the feed.
- Satertek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Or you could just remove the friends that aren't your friends.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2only about half a million users don't like the new feature, huh?
- DarknessGP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2zmigliozzi, NO you CAN NOT disable the feeds.
- e3mw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Bingo, MySpace.com is like the worst designed website EVER, it's slow, hard to navigate and everyone's personalized page you go to makes you want to vomit. Ever wonder why that website hosts over 50,000,000 users? It's because it's the website that all of their FRIENDS are using at the same time. If they all stopped using it one day, then what is the point? You would'nt use it anymore. All of our friends are still going to use Facebook, regardless of these updates. Therefore, no one is going anywhere, these folks can threaten to leave all they want but at the end of the day the argument comes down to "are you willing to leave your network of friends for this little tiff?" And of course you aren't. The FaceBook team knows that.
- DarknessGP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2a1lostnomad, been to myspace.com lately? It's far from Web 2.0 It's really like Web 0.8 as it's has a horrible UI.
- bmobile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2^ THANK YOU! that is what i have been saying all along. if you really wanna express your discontent with all the haters, then join a PRO new facebook features group.
- DarknessGP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yutt, you are correct, people are posting personal info. But they are getting upset because now the system announces whereever anything changes and there is no way to disable it. If someone removes something, it announces exactly what it removed... i.e. "Steve just removed 'Blink 182' from Favorite Music" Obviously in some cases it's no big deal. But what if you are taking down info that was being abused. i.e. phone number. Suddenly you take it down and then the news feed announces that "Kelly removed 405-555-9384 from her home phone number." This really wouldn't have been a big deal if at the very least there was a way to disable it when it was added.
- e3mw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh get real! I'm getting tired of these idle threats! Where else are you going to go? MySpace?! yeah -the *****- right. Even with these new features, Facebook is still better than anything else that is out there and it is still where the overwhelming majority of everyone's friends are located. No one is going anywhere.
- vondruska, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I kinda like the new stuff, now I'd be even sweeter if they did something RSS-ish with that so if I wanted I could put it somewhere and see it.
- thewaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"There are rumors of hundreds of other Facebook groups calling for a removal of the new features."
my favorite: "nicole ritchie will not eat until facebook goes back" - ryanrousseau, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Facebook's news feed does ignore privacy settings!
My settings explicitly say that no one can see photos I'm tagged in. My friend was showing me the new feature and what did I see on his news feed? "So and so tagged your friend Ryan in a photo. Here, look at the photo, even though Ryan said he didn't want that."
I sent a complaint and got the "you'll like it eventually" reply. I resent it and Brooke from Facebook said that it was a know problem that they're working on. Is it fixed yet? Maybe, but if they knew about it, why didn't they say that instead of "your privacy is safe"? And why didn't they stop the news feed while they fix this problem?
Whatever, goodbye facebook. - RekonizeYo, on 05/07/2009, -0/+2What I believe to be the main problem coming from this update to facebook is the fact that no one really was expressing the fact that an upgrade was necessary. The overwelming amount of information presented to us now leads a member to now see the amount of information that facebook really has right at their fingertips. Now do I see facebook using this information in a negative means? No, but I do begin to feel uneasy when a person I'm friends with finds out I'm dating his ex. (Just joking, I'm not that guy)
- caboosemoose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes, you're probably right there will be a disable feature; the only reason for that being that the protest has been vast.
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