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- TPorter72, on 09/07/2008, -32/+459I like the new layout. It could be better but it's a step in the right direction. People just haven't learned the new layout yet, so they think they hate it.
- MediaCrisis, on 09/07/2008, -11/+311Personally, I like the new facebook. I'm not a big fan of the applications, especially since I'm convinced some of my friends are on a mission to add every one in existance.
- ProfBagelwood, on 09/07/2008, -11/+174The new Facebook is a return to being organized and clean. What you call the "old Facebook" is actually more like the "Facebook wearing a MySpace mask." Anybody who misses the days when Facebook provided an actual alternative to the super chaotic, cluttered mess of MySpace should be happy with the new Facebook, and all the people that are happy with the "old Facebook" should just admit that they like MySpace more anyway. While all the popular kids pat themselves on the back for opting for incredibly bloated profile pages that take an hour to decipher and scroll through because of having a trillion applications littered throughout, the rest of us will have our cake and eat it too by separating the actual profile page from the apps page with the clever/obvious/overdue use of tabs.
However, I agree that they should let each user choose which layout they want since your choosing to keep using a MySpace clone does not affect my choosing to go back to something that tries to be less hectic.
P.S. Anybody who actually thinks that dividing content into a tabbed layout is maze-like is being silly. Tabs are good. MySpace is not. - BugsSport, on 09/07/2008, -19/+152i don't mind the new layout other than the wall being integrated into the news feed. it sucks.
- chrisgeleven, on 09/07/2008, -4/+113I like the new Facebook so much better then the old one. Nothing ticked me off more then having to scroll through dozens of apps to write on someone's wall. That problem has been solved and it is fun to use Facebook again.
- Paal, on 09/07/2008, -26/+92that maze illustration is a perfect representation of the "cleaner" facebook
honestly, those that want a messy facebook are happy to have dozens of apps installed, and those of us that want a clean facebook just have the essentials -- i don't see why facebook needs us to jump through hoops to see specific sections of our friends' profiles - jaromdl, on 09/07/2008, -2/+61My Facebook story:
I thought it was OK at first, better than MySpace. Then the apps came. Then I got pissed off. Then they made the new Facebook layout. It was weird at first, but now I love it.
1.) I don't have to jump through hoops to post something on the wall. (By hoops, I mean tons of apps by people who think "Which Disney Princess am I?" is necessary) I just do it.
2.) The wall is functional. It places everything about that person in one convenient spot. One spot to look at. Only want to see wall posts? Just press "Posts by others" above the wall. If you don't feel like pushing "Posts by others", the messages are super easy to pick out, because they are highlighted.
3.) It's easier to look at friend's pictures. Before, there were two different spots where they had your friend's pictures. You had "View photos of [person]", and you had their albums. They were on two completely different spots of the page. Now, all you have to do is press, "Photos", and everything is right there including "View photos of [person]" as if it was another album.
4.) Apps are in a completely separate tab that you aren't forced to look at unlike the old facebook layout.
There is NOTHING that is better about the old Facebook than the new one in my opinion.
To people who say who hate it, freaking try it! And by try it, I don't mean look around and then decide right then. Use it for a week or two. Just because it's familiar doesn't make it better. - companionsphere, on 09/07/2008, -6/+62I think that it makes much better use of tabs to organize things. It's like jumping from an old ms word to a new one like 2007.
- phoenixp3k, on 09/07/2008, -6/+59I could never go back to the old layout!
- cbabraham, on 09/07/2008, -2/+51umm...they did take the "is" out of the status
- Seidoger, on 09/07/2008, -1/+39What change did Facebook make that didn't spawn 4395 groups being against it?
And then people just get used to it. They're pretty competent people in user interfaces. Their use of ajax and such is stunning, like how you'd expect any web interface application to be. They're not perfect but i accept changes they make most of the time. - iofthestorm, on 09/07/2008, -0/+36@diggdiggerid: I'm 99.9% certain that this new layout requires more than just a simple CSS stylesheet change.
- Roobix, on 09/07/2008, -1/+36Putting all the apps on one tab was the best idea since sliced bread.
- fuzzmeister, on 09/07/2008, -2/+36Because Facebook doesn't want to have to add new features to 2 layouts instead of just 1.
- Kanten, on 09/07/2008, -4/+38Zuckerberg has never listened to the user base once in Facebook's lifetime. A few little incidents that come to mind:
1. Opening Facebook to everybody.
2. Removing class listings.
3. Stalker feeds.
4. Applications. - minorgods, on 09/07/2008, -7/+39It's official. they can petition ANYTHING.
If you don't like the layout, get a domain and show em how it's done. (and do it for free) - dangv2, on 09/07/2008, -4/+30Totally agree with you there, it's a step in the right direction. BUT they could do with giving people the choice..there is nothing worse than limiting people to a single option when the crowds are divided on what they prefer.
- stutimandal, on 09/07/2008, -6/+25I wish they rallied against Bush instead. There are more burning issues, you know.
- jger82, on 09/07/2008, -0/+19I always thought that the stalker charge against feeds was such *****.
If you don't want some people to know what you're up to, a) keep your profile private and only available to friends, b) only allow REAL friends access...stop trying to up your friends count with random people, or c) get the hell off of Facebook -- it's a SOCIAL NETWORKING SITE. - samirms, on 09/07/2008, -3/+22Remember how much everyone hated the mini feeds. Hell even I joined a "I hate the new mini feeds" group, and the mini feeds is fantastic. I'm pretty sure everyone will get over it in a month.
- mdnghtblue, on 09/07/2008, -10/+29a more accurate name for that group would be "People Who Are Afraid of Change". I didn't like the new layout at first either, but now I can't stand looking at the old one. if people learned to just give things a chance, we wouldn't be talking about this.
the new layout isn't perfect, but as someone said above, it's a step in the right direction. and i'm talking about how i no longer have to scroll through thousands of pathetic, attention-seeking applications just to see someone's information. explain to me how that's a good thing on the old facebook. - wedges, on 09/07/2008, -4/+20i don't hate it because it's "new and different", i actually have reasons for hating it.
integrated wall/feed is cluttered, hard to read, and shows a collection of information that really isn't the same. people posting on my wall is not the same as me adding a new band to iLike or joining a group. it shouldn't be displayed as the same thing. plus, by default your statuses show up in this list as big bold sentences. the variation of sizes, weights, single-row vs multi-row makes this feedwall hard to read.
my biggest problem with this new facebook is the lack of customizable tabs. if you look at my profile, you automatically look at my feed. that isn't right. my feed isn't the information i find most important about myself. many people i know habitually delete everything off their feeds. my interests, work information, and contact information is on another page that few are likely to click to. basically, facebook has decided FOR ME what information is important. and who decided iLike should be on the main page while Loopt is on the boxes page? why can't i make that decision? - TheGuruStud, on 09/07/2008, -1/+17after much harassment
- Hess10, on 09/07/2008, -3/+18two versions would be a NIGHTMARE for developers
- starskii, on 09/07/2008, -2/+16People will get used to the new layout in time, I don't see anything wrong with it at all. I would say the main aim that Facebook have with the change is clearly to make better use of its news feed, which is by some way the most powerful advertising tool it has. It's all about becoming more profitable, but it's definitely a step in the right direction for everyone. Also, those who enjoy using applications can have them all neatly kept under their applications tab, which is far better than just having them scattered all over the profile page when in reality most of their friends are probably not as enthusiastic about or remotely interested in those apps as they are. That way, people who are actually interested in seeing and keeping track of how many zombie bites their friend has or how many gnomes are in their garden or whatever else there is (such useful application aren't they) can check them out there. The new layout is far better in many ways, it just takes getting used to.
- StockholmSyn, on 09/07/2008, -6/+20I think it's down to the matter of personal opinion. To me, the new layout sucks. Yet, anything is better than scrolling for five minutes to get to the bottom of a "super-happy-slap-McDonalds-LOLLERSKATES" application. Whatever one of those is. On the same note, any Facebook layout is way better than any custom MySpace layout; or it's default one, come to think about it.
- ProfBagelwood, on 09/07/2008, -3/+17@wedges:
Yes, the new Facebook *is* cleaner. Combining the wall and the feed into a single thing did not add clutter. If anything, it removed clutter a little bit too aggressively. So I actually agree that the wall and the feed should have been kept separate like it was in the beginning of the new Facebook's design process because even though it's pretty easy on the eyes for most people, if you have a lot of friends and thus have a huge feed and lots of wall posts, then there will be issues. However, what they did is definitely not "messy," and saying that it adds clutter is simply fallacious.
And yeah. You're exactly right about them deciding what content is valuable. That's the difference between MySpace and what Facebook used to be. It used to be that Facebook was strictly organized like a template to keep it from being a dysfunctional mess, while MySpace was customizable to the point of effectively having zero consistency. If you want that level of customization, then you should probably make your own web site completely, but if you want to have a profile that fits into a community so that you can easily share information about yourself and decipher information about others, then you are better off having one consistent design that makes that information available.
The same information for everybody, in the same place on the page, without having to sort through a billion of apps. That's Facebook. If you want something more customizable, then it's not like anybody is saying MySpace should be banned. I just wish that all the popular kids from MySpace would let us Facebook people have our clean, structured way of doing things back.
To me, the new Facebook is a vast improvement that lets everybody win. It lets everybody keep all their apps, but cleans up profile pages by putting them under a different tab in the design. It's a return to sanity through reorganization without sacrifice, because nobody is actually giving anything up. I'm still getting carpet bombed with spam asking me to install tons of really dumb apps, but hey, I'll take what I can get. Profile pages that don't go on forever with tons of stupid apps appearing randomly throughout the layout based on somebody's exhibitionist whims? Yes please.
@slayerab:
Only three applications? You're a good person, and a grateful webernet thanks you for your self-restraint. Your profile page was almost certainly not a crime against humanity like pretty much the rest of Facebook was.
However, you're not the reason why people like me were getting so frustrated with the so-called "old Facebook." Ever been to a profile page so full of apps and arranged so randomly that you just wanted to give up and turn Amish? Yeah. Those are the ones. - fuzzmeister, on 09/07/2008, -1/+13Just click "Posts by Others" to get the traditional wall.
- k3rfuffl3, on 09/07/2008, -0/+12It was a fun exercise in grammar for me when it came to expressing past tenses.
- reddevild, on 09/07/2008, -2/+13gotta love all the attempts at 1 mil against the new layout, when in fact, 1 million is only around 1% of the total users of facebook
- jaromdl, on 09/07/2008, -1/+12http://mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/fac ...
Look closely. It's on the right. - Jumpeplowski, on 09/07/2008, -12/+23I don't get it... People can decide between one of the two layouts and one of the two will please them so they will keep it. Is it that hard to understand? Why do they have to force people to one side when they can just have both and let users do their thing?
- bbliss17, on 09/07/2008, -4/+14I dont mind the new interface I just wish they would get rid of the wall and mini-feed combination. I hate that, separate it already.
- benburned, on 09/07/2008, -1/+11You're right. I'm sick of scrolling through pictures of cats for two hours just so that I can find their wall.
- Daniel591992, on 09/07/2008, -5/+15They can't support it forever... People will get used to the new one. It's a lot nicer.
- remotehuman, on 09/07/2008, -0/+10Ok.
ITS A ***** Site.
The world isn't going to end once they change the layout on THEIR website that THEY LET YOU USE FOR FREE.
I already changed on mine THE SKY didn't crash.
I just get annoyed when people complain about the stupidest things.
sorry for the rant. - MaxMWood, on 09/07/2008, -8/+18People just dont like change, force it on them and they'll get over it.
- ausoff2, on 09/07/2008, -1/+10Why? Because people are afraid of change. The new facebook is so much better.
- iofthestorm, on 09/07/2008, -0/+9This is more complicated than simply changing CSS, there's definitely a lot of server side code doing the tabs and stuff.
- fjf314, on 09/07/2008, -1/+10The problem is that the majority of Facebook users seem to have absolutely no clue what they're talking about to begin with. For the most part, it seems like they want to complain about every change simply because they LIKE to complain about change. Everyone freaked out when feeds first started, and now everyone thinks they're great. I could see the same thing happening with the new layout. Right now everyone wants to protest because that's what the average Facebook user does. After a few weeks, though, most people probably won't care.
- douglasr007, on 09/07/2008, -0/+8you know the new Facebook is going to happen regardless of the petitions
- JonnyCasino, on 09/07/2008, -8/+16I really like the new interface though.
- forzaferrara, on 09/07/2008, -1/+95. still charging for gifts
- LR2_, on 09/07/2008, -1/+9The new layout isn't just about user experience. Facebook is a company and needs to make money. The new layout probably feeds ads more effectively. Why should they support the old facebook when its better for the users as well as better for their bottom line?
- shzdeR, on 09/07/2008, -0/+8Agree with fuzzmeister, it would be too costly to maintain two different layouts of Facebook instead of one (making updates to two layouts instead of one would be much more of a hassle).
Also, what happens when new layouts come out again? Will we have to choose between 3+ layouts, and have to deal with which layout to keep again? - lexington86, on 09/07/2008, -14/+22Seriously...?? Might as well call it the "I fear change" group. Get a life, people.
- OhROFL, on 09/07/2008, -1/+8Remember when they added the news feed? Everyone went ape *****. Now they can't live without it.
- dep01, on 09/07/2008, -0/+7***** whiny babies. the new facebook is far superior.
- lechechocolate, on 09/07/2008, -6/+13new facebook >>> old facebook
- Darkhacker, on 09/07/2008, -1/+8I remembered that. I'd say that about one-fifth of all my friends who bitched non-stop about mini-feeds *actually* disabled them when the option came. Everyone else kept them because they realized how it makes Facebook so much easier to keep up with the latest happenings on your friends.
The biggest complaint about feeds was that "it's like stalking." Well, then don't put up personal details on Facebook damn it! I only put up stuff that I wouldn't mind anyone (yes, even employers) seeing. -
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