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- kevin.gc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+163Personally, I think this is great. I wish it could auto-update my status like this:
7:00 am Kevin's alarm clock goes off.
7:01 am Kevin turns off alarm clock.
7:30 am Kevin wakes up is suprised to see that his alarm clock did not wake him up.
8:00 am Kevin eats a breakfast consisting of Honey Nut Cheerios and growth-hormone-free milk.
8:01 am Kevin checks digg.
8:20 am Kevin checks digg.
9:24 am Kevin checks digg.
9:40 am Kevin checks digg.
10:12 am Kevin checks digg.
11:20 am Kevin checks digg.
12:51 am Kevin checks digg. - SniperGX1, on 10/12/2007, -10/+92When you do stuff on the internet you aren't private
- armbar, on 10/12/2007, -6/+76I just published personal details of myself on a public website, but I hope nobody finds it!
- graywh, on 10/12/2007, -24/+71The feeds only display what you could normally view anyway based on your friends and their privacy settings. It just aggregates your friends' activity. I think it's cool and it's certainly NOT an invasion of privacy.
- EmperorMing, on 10/12/2007, -2/+48@SniperGX1
I think it tastes smaller. - GopherGod, on 10/12/2007, -13/+41It shows each person you talk to. Each friend you add. Anything you do, basically gets broadcast to everyone that is in your friend list.
And then people can click on the message and go see who you talked to. If you made a comment on their picture.
I think most people just want a choice to turn off or on the system. It may be something they could see normally, but they would have to do tons of looking.
It just wasn't necessary, really. - ezyeric, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21I had some fun with this feature last night, check out this screen shot of my updates:
http://ezyeric.com/pictures/ss/facebook/myfeed.jpg - betterth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18I love the new features personally. I think they're pretty ***** snazzy =). Just logon and see what people have been up to.
Since a lot of you probably aren't college kids and the article wasn't exactly flowing with pics. I'll take a couple for ya.
http://betterth.googlepages.com/facebookimages
There you go, some full screen shots of facebook - Pattyo13, on 05/14/2009, -2/+20here's what my feed looks like
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f34/oakj423/facebook.jpg - lerinlas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+193 words...
I want one - dralezero, on 10/12/2007, -18/+34Is the feed show everyone to anyone on the site or only just linked friends? If its only showing to your other classmates like myspace bulletins then whats the big deal? Im not sure exactly how facebook is layed out or seen this new feature (I dont have an account). But again stop posting about your embarrasing actions of the other night if you dont want poeple to see.
- Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17They really need an RSS feed for your account...would look so much better and be much more practical than the one on the front page.
- b0wl0fud0n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Few people realize it but you can hide what items show up on the feed:
1. Click on My Profile.
2. Look at the right where the mini feed is
3. Click the x button on things you want to hide.
4. It dissappears off the feed!
However, personally I think feed items should be hidden by default...and users should be able to select what they wish to display/hide on the feed. - lerinlas, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Bury this comment... Wrong Story :-/
- dgritsko, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14I don't see what everyone's so angry about. The information available in the feeds is exactly what you learn from simply clicking around Facebook and looking at your friends' profiles, except that it's simply consolidated in one place.
- thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12i must be insane..
1) you can specify who can see your info
2) you choose who to accet as a friend on the site
3) you are solely responsible for putting your own info online
4) all of this information was available before
am i missing something? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Dude, this is great. It will teach me to not use the facebook when I'm really drunk after a good bar night or football game. Man, leaving stupid drunk messages on peoples walls was embarrassing enough, but now all of my friends get to see how much of a jackass I am at once.
- mrhahn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11From the blog [ http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=2208197130 ]
"We’ve been getting a lot of feedback about Mini-Feed and News Feed. We think they are great products, but we know that many of you are not immediate fans, and have found them overwhelming and cluttered. Other people are concerned that non-friends can see too much about them. We are listening to all your suggestions about how to improve the product; it’s brand new and still evolving.
We’re not oblivious of the Facebook groups popping up about this (by the way, Ruchi is not the devil). And we agree, stalking isn’t cool; but being able to know what’s going on in your friends’ lives is. This is information people used to dig for on a daily basis, nicely reorganized and summarized so people can learn about the people they care about. You don’t miss the photo album about your friend’s trip to Nepal. Maybe if your friends are all going to a party, you want to know so you can go too. Facebook is about real connections to actual friends, so the stories coming in are of interest to the people receiving them, since they are significant to the person creating them.
We didn’t take away any privacy options. [Your privacy options remain the same.] The privacy rules haven’t changed. None of your information is visible to anyone who couldn’t see it before the changes. If you turned off your wall to non-friends, no one who is not your friend will be able to see a post on your wall. Your friends can still see it; it hasn’t changed. Secret groups and secret events remain secret from other people. Pokes and messages remain as private interactions. Nothing you do is being broadcast; rather, it is being shared with people who care about what you do—your friends.
We’re going to continue to improve Facebook, and we want you to be part of that process. Test out the products and continue to provide us feedback. Use your privacy settings so you can feel most comfortable using the site.
We hear you, and we appreciate the feedback.
Stay tuned... Mark" - blk0ut7, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17I don't see what the huge problem is because all of the things you do on facebook is already public. so letting your friends know what you do is the whole purpose of the site to begin with. although it is a bit stalker-esq to know what all your friend are doing all at once. just don't post what you don't want people to find out and you won't have a problem.
- cpmcd2000, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14I like it too... people need to chill.
- calebrown, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12All privacy settings remain the same. If you don't want someone to know something about you, it's all in the privacy settings.
Also, on your own "Mini-Feed" you can remove anything you don't like.
All in all, it's a great feature. - ClassicJBC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9From a social-psychological standpoint, what this is really doing is forcing people to maintain a single identity. Previously, it was easy for people to do what they tend to do in the real world--maintain multiple identities for different friends, coworkers, relatives, etc. Now, though, you can't tell your best guy friend to "suck my balls" without your crush or your cousin or your ex seeing it. It forces people to maintain a single, muted self.
Granted, for some people this is easier than others, as some people don't change too much around different groups. But for someone like me, who tries to maintain a social life apart from my professional and/or academic life, this is really difficult with the new Facebook. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@miles01110
Yeah, and you didn't have this feature before. Your profile is public, people can come in and see the groups you belong to, the friends you have listed, and anything else you've handed over to Facebook.
If you're online, and using a social website like Facebook, none of this should be upsetting to you. If you're sitting around pouting over these new features, you're a god damned idiot. - stupidStan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9not quite sure if people were aware of this option, but you don't HAVE to use facebook...
- Porchman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9In my mind, the very people that are complaining are the ones that are way too casual with adding friends in the first place. The friend-whores. People who want that number next to their friends box to sky rocket as high as possible. Now they are figuring out the actual info they've given to these people they have probably never met. Finally they get it through their thick skulls that people can see the ***** they post.
- Pluckie, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@blk0ut7
Agreed, however, it is necessary that facebook adds some sort of security preferences where you can choose to disable these new features. I believe everyone is so worked up about it because they don't have a choice. With many of the other potentially "stalker-esque" features, the user can typically control which ones are open to the public, they're friends, etc.
As usual, I expect facebook to add such preferences in the following week. They always seem to release stuff to the masses, then have an oh-*****! moment where they realize everyone's disappointed. Then they fix stuff up. I believe what they need is some significant beta group that would test these features rather than the apparent trial-and-error method they use now. - noodlez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8indeed. it can be summarized thusly: if you don't want other people to know about it, don't do it or give up that information on facebook or myspace, you idiots.
read the terms of service. - Captbob007, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I don't think it's really anything more than facebook was before. One thing that always used to annoy me was that while it would tell me that somebody updated their profile (aka when they last updated it) it didn't say what was actually changed. Now they simply compile all that information and make it easy. It's nothing you couldn't find by simply looking through everybody's profiles, just they make it a little more apparent.
- cloudbrain, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9The real issue here is OBSCURITY AS PRIVACY:
In the real world (i.e. not the Internet), humans have learned a lot of social relationships and interaction. Obscurity, very often, is GOOD ENOUGH. If I leave my laptop on the table and get up to go order food, I feel safe because the knowledge of my unprotected laptop is pretty obscure. If someone decided to announce, via loud-speakers, to the whole city every time I left my laptop unwatched, I would be pretty upset. Not because my privacy is being violated (everyone in the coffee shop already knows), but because my obscurity is being violated.
People building "social networks" need to take into account that OBSCURITY and difficulty in finding information is just as much a part of socializing as friends and friend-of-friends. Just because the Internet is really good at making otherwise difficult-to-find information accessible, doesn't mean it always should (ahem-google-ahem). That, or humans will learn how to adapt to a new social order where we can't rely on obscurity.
My $0.02 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8This feature is a summary of all the other features. It doesn't enable or encourage stalking, just makes it a bit less time consuming. A stalker doesn't care about time though, so he'll stalk you regardless.
- deggiweg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6my issue with it is that you dont even have the option to remove the feed from you profile or from the homepage news-feed. And regardless of whether your friends with someone, if their profile is not private you can view and see everything they've done on facebook...its a bit much
- ClassicJBC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7For me, the problem isn't that this information is public, as most of it is public anyway. However, in the past the only people who might actually take the time to look up all the details about a person are bona fide stalkers. Now, everyone has that information right away. It just promotes "casual" stalking, which I think is a bad trend.
And as for it being the Internet and all public, there's a difference between signing up for a site with a specific set of features and privacy standards versus then having that same site open up all your data for everyone to see at a glance. It may not be criminal or a hideous thing, but it's not respectful of its users, especially without the option to disable it. - Pattyo13, on 05/14/2009, -1/+6actually, on your mini-feed you have an "x" by each event that you can remove so that people can't see it
- GopherGod, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7That group by way has 150,000 now.
- monticello, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I saw someone put it as simply as possible:
Publicly available is not the same as publicly announced - GarrettC, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I don't understand some's logic behind the uproar of this topic, it just doesn't make sense. Facebook is trying to provide more information easier, and ease the pain of going and looking at everyone's account. They are simply consolidating the information that you look at *anyway* into one easy to view page.
To quote a friend's comment on the anti-new-Facebook design, "Where did our ***** privacy go?!"
Your privacy left out the window when your registered on the site and posted personal information on your page, viewable to anyone who connects to you. If you wish for people to not view this information, retract them from your friends list and tighten your profile privacy.
I'm a fan of the new features, obviously. And I'm not even a stalker. Or that creepy, really.
People always get pissed off when you change something they're familiar with.
And so it goes... - splammo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10The solution is simple. If you don't want to be stalked, don't friend stalkers. That way your actions wont show up in their news feed. Brilliant.
- Bokista, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5My favorite new group is the "I Joined the CHANGE FACEBOOK BACK Group After Seeing It On The New Homepage." Totally meta.
- chubz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The result of the changes itself are not a big deal; the big deal is that most of the information in facebook.com was accumulated under certain assumptions and social behavior.
Under the old facebook, all of the changes and actions were not logged into a news feed. Has the old facebook started out this way, it wouldn't be a big deal because people would have behaved differently (They would have probably been more "polite" and been more careful about what they said or did).
The new facebook will condition a different social behavior; suddenly people will think twice before joining the "I hate panda bears" group. They will be more careful about what they write on other people's "walls". They will *gasp* have to worry that their existing girlfriend or boyfriend will see what they wrote on their ex's "wall".
The problem is the transition from the old social behavior that the old facebook conditioned clashing with the new social norms the new facebook conditions. It will take some time, and it will change the nature of facebook. Only time will tell if the new facebook is more successful than the old.
Its all about social behavior folks! - splammo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@b0wl0fud0n
I have been trying to explain this to people. In addition you can now click the arrow in the title of any section and it minimizes that section on all pages. People are complaining about it being more cluttered and wanting a way to control it, but aren't willing to look for ways to control things themselves. - rluecke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Here are some graphs of people joining during the day and other useful info:
http://www.flightpad.net/facebook.htm
Enjoy. - MatttK, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I just hate the abomination that is the new layout. Before, it used to be clean and simple: you could see all the information easily. Now, it is a mess of a few lines here and a few lines there, split up into pointless sections.
- tmcpheeters, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4next thing you know, digg is going to add a feature so you can see recent activity of your friends on digg. what an invasion of privacy that would be...
ohh wait, we've had that for a long time. - Otto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4>>>"Wait about 10 years when some of us are running for office and the opposition brings up MySpace/Facebook profiles and activities... It will happen, it's just a matter of time."
Nobody who uses facebook will ever run for an office, because you're all god damn idiots. - Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I usually don't click on SPAM, but since I did this time I guess you deserve some feedback. Your writing skills are atrocious and your layout made my eyes bleed. Otherwise it was great.
- echo1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i said the same thing when they first made the changes. the "updated friends" section was pointless because it was near impossible to see what was updated.
- drapelyk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5+digg for hilarity
I can see people going crazy. No longer can try to be sneaky on facebook. Makes people accountable for their actions.
When I first saw it I laughed, because you could, at a glance, see what everyone had been doing. It was fun trying to guess why someone dropped harry potter from their favorite books list or any other small change. Fun stuff. - flipzmode, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8@Sniper: off topic... but I can't afford to drink it (it's double the price for a half gallon as milk is for 1 gallon) but every one of my friends drinks Horizon organic and say it tastes 100% better. But I like regular milk so I don't care. heh.
On topic: As others have said... it's the public internet. That's exactly why I never even signed up for facebook. And on myspace I don't have in my last name, my regular email, or any of my actual local info (my zip code or city/state). No one can find me unless I find them. - jull1234, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Security through obscurity is worse than no security at all. You're under the impression that you're secured, and behave accordingly. Bad assumption.
- monticello, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Newsflash kiddos, you have NO OPTION to keep your personal things off of mini-feed. Cut that nonsense. From an FB user:
I was surprised when I spotted this, and equally surprised by "Pete from Facebook"'s reply. Read on:
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It has come to my attention that items I remove from my "Mini Feed" sometimes still appear in other people's "News Feed". This can persist for at least a day, and it's not a caching problem.
Setting aside my more general thoughts on the Feeds for a minute, surely this isn't intended behaviour?
Thanks,
Rob
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Hi Rob,
Actually, that is the way it's intended to be. However, you should know that News Feed does not show everything to everybody on your friends list. Hardly that, it actually only shows a small slice of the activity within your network of friends, and it only shows stuff that it thinks you'll be the most interested in -- i.e. the activity of close friends.
I'm sorry if this answer isn't satisfactory.
Have a good one,
Pete -
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