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- Winters, on 10/12/2007, -2/+42That's just sickening. If it was a "hacker" he would have probably ended up in jail for 20 years.
- JimV, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15I see an easy way to get $150.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18What I don't understand is how what Sony did is not a federal crime. If a "hacker" did something like this, you can bet your ass that the government would seek prison terms.
- logomancer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12And what was the FTC's justification for this unprecendented slap on the wrist? They're supposed to punish corporations who misbehave, not gently chide them by wagging a finger.
The government has been reduced to a fellatrix of the corporations. - sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Sony and I have much in common, I see by the headline.
- DeFex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Why is anyone surprised by this.
a hacker is just a peon. famous and rich people, big corps are higher class and get treated better by the government. it is also important that other peons see that happening so they are kept in their place. - Langford, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11@JimV
You don't have to put the whole corporation in jail, just the people in charge. - netsurfergeek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11It should be minimum $750 a CD, same as RIAA demands for illegal song download. If its up to me I would say $750 x number of songs on the CD.
Screw RIAA and its supporting companies. - Koray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I wonder if this sets a precedent. Like, now I can root a bunch of people and then tell the feds "Hey, I'll pay them 150 bucks each and everyone wins".
- Sarki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I never let this scourge touch my box, but in an evil way I hope Sony has to pay a ton of $150 fees for what they have done.
- JangoFett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8It wouldn't be that hard to fake up a computer repair invoice from XYZ Computer Repair for $150 for rootkit removal. The more clever individual may add corporate logos, barcodes, and the like.
But of course, that would be wrong. Almost as wrong as hiding rootkits in CD's. - tom6a, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I recommend this article on rootkits if you are trying to explain them to someone. Matt Vea wrote it back when this Sony rootkit story first broke over a year ago:
Rootkit Analysis: The "r00t" of Digital Evil
http://www.omninerd.com/2005/11/22/articles/43 - noamchomskeet, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11sony is going to go down in history as one of those companys that had it all and lost it all. we are talking about the company that made the first walkman and portable cd players, now apple pwns that market with a vengance. ps2 was great and they laughed when xbox showed up, now 360 is pwning left and right while ps3 is collecting dust in stores.
- one2gamble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I still think people can individually sue Sony if they wish. Bill Gates should have sent M$ after Sony for "compromising their OS"
This kind of stuff just makes me sick. You throw spammers and hackers in Jail with fines in the tens to hundreds of millions and Sony skates. - nroose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6These settlements should require the companies to find the users and send them the check, without the user having to hear about the settlement, prove they suffered damages, and prove their expenses. Anyone who bought one of these CDs with a credit card should automatically get a credit sent to their credit card unless Sony can prove they didn't suffer damages.
- Eccohawk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6list of cd's originally affected:
http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/titles.html
this may or may not be inline with the titles directly affected by the settlement:
http://www.sonybmgcdtechsettlement.com/CDList.htm - sirloin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I have a hand written note from a kid that fixed mine.. will that get me $150?
- maximthegreat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6No fine? Amazing.
- Corrosionx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Too easy... if you want to punish Sony, boycott them.
- sdoorex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5And this whole root-kit deal is part of the reason I will never by anything from Sony again.
- LeroyBrown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Uhh.. Maybe because autorun is enabled by default, and most people know jack about computers?
But then using computers, in general, without knowing much about them is "just asking for trouble." That's why the wife doesn't get to use my computer (well, midget porn too), and also why it took her only 10 minutes to infect our brand new laptop with adware, meanwhile my PC with up-to-date patches and zero anti-whatever has never been infected by anything ever.
The moral of the story is, with computer users, there is no such thing as "common sense." - simcjt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4um how exactly are people going to prove they deserve the up to 150 for damaged computers ... i wouldn't mind having a extra 150 in my pocket for no particular reason
- sirloin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You mean the corporate fed?
Of the company, by the company and for the company. - ChrisGrrr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've been passing Bruce Schneier's column to people who hadn't heard about this... http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/11/sonys_drm_rootk.html
- Alfdog, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10What's a "CD"?
- tekz0r, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6@diggfinity
HACK THE PLANET! - gallagherFTW, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4sony is lucky, they've been taking it in the ass lately, with the ps3's lack of scarcity and those psp sales, their battery recalls around the launch of the ps3, the announcement that they aren't making monitors anymore. i almost feel bad for them...oh wait
"I have no concerns about the competition."
Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios speaking at the Game Developer Conference
nevermind - fulldecent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3O RLY?
- PhoneGuy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Not to be blunt, but does anybody actually buy anything from Sony anymore?
I think the boycott was self-inflicted already.
The PSP has a market penetration of what, 3 units per 1,000,000 people? Do they even make TV's anymore?
What do they do?
PS3? Ha! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"Sony gets off easy"
not with me they don´t, the root kit scandal was the final nail in the coffin for Sony, as far as I am concerned Sony is dead to me, and they will never see any of my money, ever. - fhernand, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2that's what she said
- diggfinity, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6It's in that place where I put that thing that time.
- JD52, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3They figured after the whole PS3 launch disaster they would take it easy on them.
- Dedpoet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I've been boycotting them for a while, but the rootkit thing was the nail in the coffin for me. I won't even buy a CD on their Epic label unless I can find it used so they don't make any money from me.
@PhoneGuy - Unfortunately, their high-end televisions are immensely popular. Seems like everyone I know with a newer big screen has a Sony or a Panasonic now. - ChumpChief, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Does anyone have a list of affected CDs eligible for exchange?
- Sarki, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Hell, they'd get Orrin Hatch to sponsor a bill to save America's children, by banning all "roots" so there can be no rootkits. Truly disgusting.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2What I don't get is Why these people have autorun enabled in the first place. If you do then you are just asking for trouble. Any disc you put in your computer could install a virus without you even knowing about it. It doesn't even have to be a disc.
See this, for a non-obvious exploit....
http://digg.com/security/USB_flash_drive_that_steals_passwords_in_seconds - laserdisc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well there's still one product I think Sony makes well, it's Bravia series of televisions. Sony is in a peculiar position in which the company must be pulling itself apart being part Hollywood / part consumer electronics company. Constantly fighting with itself on how to deliver media to the masses without pissing them off and selling media in broken DRM schemes that are a pain to paying customers but not to pirates. I guess what I'm saying is Sony needs to go back to it's roots and leave the movie/music industry and concentrate on engineering the best technologies in this new Hi Def world.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i am just downloading stuff all the time, mp3's dont come with rootkits, nor drm.
- tvcity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0To stick it to Sony, er, I mean, be reimbursed...
http://www.sonybmgcdtechsettlement.com/ - tvcity, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0There is also a list here on the settlement site, not sure if this is all inclusive or not.
http://www.sonybmgcdtechsettlement.com/ - noamchomskeet, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1yeah but sony is getting theirs up the butt with hackers now. look at psp, it's hacked to hell and sony can't keep up with the updates to patch them. now there is a hacked firmware that'll play all the games and work with ps3 as well, it's just lose lose battle with sony.
- JimV, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1But how do you throw a corporation in jail? And you usually don't buy music cd's from "hackers".
- Apocalypticae, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Maybe an invoice from a repair shop? :eyeroll:
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