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- direfox, on 10/11/2007, -10/+127Say goodbye to the internet as we knew it. Welcome to the Dark Ages.
- poundernuts, on 10/11/2007, -8/+77Say goodbye to free craigslist services
- bastardo, on 10/11/2007, -6/+71Goddamn ***** US Government is going to screw up the internet for the whole world!
- stakk, on 10/11/2007, -7/+65You know what this means right? Ma and Pop will get their $15 broadband... and the gamers/voip/downloaders will get *ahem* raped.
- bseyler, on 10/11/2007, -5/+55How the ***** is this even happening? How can we stop it?
- llbethan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+51Any ideas on what the average person can do about all this?
- pcghost, on 10/11/2007, -3/+44I wonder what the price tag for our government was when the telcos bought them. They wonder why we hate our congress as much as our loser president. A government by the corporate, of the corporate, and for the corporate. This is a sad day.
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(banging my head against the keybaord) - rgmccann, on 10/11/2007, -5/+40I know it sounds trite, but really - contact your congressional representative as well as your senator... Do it now! Most (if not all) congressional offices happily accept e-mails...
-Bob - elbowman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+29Before you head off to Canada, you might want to read the story more closely. The FTC passed a recommendation on to Congress. It's not decided. It's up to Congress to pass the required legislation.
So, like rgmccann states above, write, call, email your congressperson. It ain't over till its over. - slayerab, on 10/11/2007, -5/+31I'm glad to see our government is looking out for us.
- zengonzo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+26 Use the services hardest? Are the tubes wearing out under the strain of all that data?
Look, the only thing I want to make sure of is that a packet is treated like a packet, whatever its origin. Quantity of packets should be between you and the provider, but origin of packets should be none of their business. - GunbladeVIII, on 10/11/2007, -1/+25So I start with Comcast, and they start doing it. I switch to Verizon, only to find that they're doing it. Then I switch to... oh, wait.
No more choices. Now what? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22the problem is its NOT A FREE MARKET
our government has paid billions of dollars in subsidies to alot of these ISP companies, that they WASTED on failed fiber networks that arent even used
and the lines that they did build THEY HAVE 100% EXCLUSIVE CONTROL OVER, they pay other providers license and usage fees to use any of the lines that subsidies helped pay for
its not a free market, there is no competition, its a monopoly almost 100% owned by AT&T now, and we WILL BE ***** IN PRICES
they will ***** us all as hard as they possibly can, on a case by case basis
its not fair, its not true free market, its pure corporate/political corruption that even allowed it to get this far - MikeonTV, on 10/11/2007, -9/+28I love Canada.
- snerge, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20I love Canada too but it is probably just a matter of time until it reaches us ....
- Twinked, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20I've been thinking more and more about immigrating. The way the US is going to hell in a handbasket is pretty disconcerning. If you're not a "Big Business" the Goverment gives you the SHAFT!
- bratpack8, on 10/11/2007, -4/+22We should be cheering that the government doesn't want to regulate this industry. Every time they touch something, it turns to *****. Let the market work. More competition equals higher quality and lower prices. The only thing I see negative is the monopoly privileges the govt has given large cable companies. This should be eliminated for a more pure competition.
- howski, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19the bigger issue is that companies will be able to use their politics and their pocketbooks to determine what gets delivered to the end user. Amazon will get more bandwidth than CDuniverse, for example.
- brianboyko, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18It doesn't matter if it's "all text" - if you throttle the bandwidth enough, even text will take a good long while to load, and if "AT&T Classifieds" becomes a revenue stream, you can bet your sweet bippy that they'll choke off Craigslist.
- AmateurX, on 10/11/2007, -3/+20All we have is the power of consumerism. I see bouncing from ISP to ISP in my future.
- tHePeOPle, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17That's right man, you definitely don't get it.
- bakajoe, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15Yes our government who messes everything up shouldnt be dealing with the internet. Why the hell does anyone want them to step in to area just because someone thinks something bad could happen.
Trust me if the government starts to watch over the internet they will start to care about the content. Hello FCC fines for porn. - Twinked, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14I don't normally call people names, but you're just an idiot if you don't think this ruling effects the Internet as we know it now. Please dig your head out of the sand and take a look around at just what has been happening. AT&T is blocking sites that they deem illegal or pirate sites. Namely BitTorrent trackers, now they've been given the right to "Bandwidth Shape" as they wish. Who's next? What big ISP is going to decide it wants to sign a contract with Vonage so now if you're subscribed to that ISP and you use Skype, you're Skype VoIP service is going to degrade to the point you can't use it. All because the ISP signed a contract with Vonage. Seriously, dig your head out and look at what's happening to the Internet and the ramifications of what these bonehead decisions are going to cause.
- CanceledCzech, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13You're such a stupid whore. The Internet is about to be destroyed and you're worried about god damn dupes?
- kmccarney, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12There is a petition circulating through www.savetheinternet.com
PLEASE sign it. This issue is NOTHING new and it will not go away without a strong consumer reaction/confrontation with special interest groups. If you care about our radio airwaves, print media, community television- I suggest checking out www.freepress.org. They have so much information available and they work with groups you would never expect to collaborate (think NRA and MoveOn.org) because these are issues that affect everyone.
Especially you DiGG user - HonestAbe, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Why haven't we created our own free Internet by saturating the landscape with cheap, mass-produced solar-powered ad-hoc wireless mesh networking devices yet?
- jeffsback2223, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Just how the hell can we do that? I have a grand total of 1 ISP in my area. I have no choice but to accept the ass raping I'm going to get.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10If only we had choice in our ISPs, we wouldn't need Net Neutrality. Capitalism can only work when there is choice.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Can that site fit one more ***** ad in there?
- fantasticFlan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10For the same reason we don't break into choreographed song and dance routines on a regular basis.
- Twinked, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13This sucks bad. . .
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+15Its just the next step towards globalization. Didn't we expect this? I mean the elite don't give a ***** about us. We are all just slaves to their sick little game. They just sit back and watch the show. Diggers we must unite on all fronts to STOP THIS *****. Atheist, Christians, Muslims, White, Black, whatever.......the people who run the world dont give a ***** about you.... you must realize this.....I just hope it isn't to late....
- addicted68098, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9They are stocking up so they can profit when the ISPs charge $25 a request
- true2heart, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10typical moronic response...it kinda falls along the lines of "When I get cancer, then I'll THINK about quitting smoking"
- Smuikas, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Not only this, but content providers that require low latency - online games, streaming audio/video, etc - will need to essentially pay their initial bandwidth bill, and then pay a bill for every ISP that implements tiered delivery - so their packets will have priority. It's going to kill web innovation, and hinder online gaming. No longer will you be able to set up an ad-hoc internet game with Quake 4 or whatever, because your packets (and people trying to connect to you - their packets, too) will be deprioritized. Ping rates will climb, making online gaming a torturous affair.
Right now the way it works: Pay bill to ISP. You don't need to worry about what ISPs people you want to send data to are using.
If ISPs take advantage of this: Pay bill to ISP. If you really want your ***** to get through, you need to pay every single other ***** ISP in the US that implements this. It would be like buying a stamp for a letter, and then getting a bill for the postman's fuel consumption. It was already paid for with the stamp!! - b0rg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8The whole NN thing was the biggest piece of astroturf ever. It would have assured the local telcos and cablecos an absolute lock on voice services and video-on-demand, and prevented anyone without a huge chunk of capital from destabilizing profitable and well-managed markets. It was a wonderful example of playing reflexive and noisy, but totally impotent, advocacy groups to create just enough FUD to kick open the PAC checkbooks. You're not even a special interest, you're simply a rattle to be shaken in the face of industry groups to make sure they roll out the corporate G-IV to ferry legislators on "fact-finding" outings.
If you had even the slightest inclination to believe that this was being done in the interest of users, you really should go back and read the business section of the newspaper, or better, publications like Multichannel News, Network World, and Light Reading.
Seriously, people, if you thought that the same White House that gave us the Office of Faith-Based Initiatives and FEMA, the same congress that gave us ethanol and the Satellite Home Viewer Act, and the biggest pro-business Supreme Court since 1857 actually gives a flying ***** about protecting your "rights" against the interest of AT&T, Time Warner, Verizon, and Yahoo!, you're missing something. - blubolt, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11The Citizens of this country just defeated the senate migration bill -(the senators wish they could take credit for that) - The reason it was defeated was because of PUBLIC OUTCRY!!! if you make enough noise they will hear you - if only to save their own bloody job!!! CONTACT YOUR GOVERNMENT REPRESENTATIVES - LET THEM KNOW THIS IS WRONG AND YOU WILL TAKE YOUR VOTE ELSEWHERE!!!!!
- MioTheGreat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Because he's libertarian. Net Neutrality = Regulation = Inherently bad (And I agree, just look at the evil monstrocity that is the FCC). The market _should_ be capable of taking care of this on its own, If we had choice in ISPs, that is....Sadly, most of us don't.
- nebbo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9He voted against the bill because it regulates a form of communication that the market can self regulate and it would create a slippery slope for more government intervention on the Internet. People need to speak with their money. If a teleco or cable provider isn't offering the service you desire, go to the next one.
If the government gives you a right, it can just as easily take it away. If the government were to start regulating how the telecos and cable providers provide content, the government/fcc/ftc could just as easily turn it off when they see fit even though it started out to the peoples benefit. - manicallday, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9God your proud of being an ignorant ass. How lame is that?
- geniusj, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12How? Other countries have their own laws and can pass their own net neutrality laws if needed. Or you can continue to blame the US for future problems in your own country.
- anonatron, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9Well internet, you had a good run, but it is time to put you down, who has the shotgun?
- gravedigg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6What can normal people do about this? Apparently nothing. So far it seems that net neutrality is gaining no ground and only losing it. You know why? The economic potential and interests of the greedy politicians in our government that only want to represent themselves and not do what is best for the people in the country. Will we win net neutrality? Not if we stay at the same rate we are now. Something really needs to happen. We need more big companies to stand up. Google is on our side and a few others, but not enough to sway people's minds. Heck, has anyone even protested in Washington D.C. yet? I doubt these guys read their emails because they never do anything to help us when we do email them even if it is en mass.
- MikeonTV, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I doubt it. Europe is a bigger threat to them then us. Australia has already caved.
- benonymous, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I don't understand why everyone is ignoring the fact that the telecommunications industry is subsidized by the Government. Take a history lesson on Telecommunications. For every dollar a Telecommunications companies spends it gets MORE than $1 from the Federal government. Telecommunications IS regulated by the government ALREADY. Since the Internet operates through Telecommunications companies, allowing the Telecommunications companies to created "tiered" service IS giving the Government control over Internet access in the US. Telecommunications = The Government.
- dutchb0y, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Who here is HONESTLY going to CANCEL internet access?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7have you ever known government to fix ANY PROBLEM? EVER??
every problem that they cause to happen the only make worse and worse
thats why they need to stay the hell away from our internet entirely - dafragsta, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7We live in a country where half the people can't stand the state of things and the other half is too busy feigning concern for their moral chewy center in exchange for the luxury of complete and total apathy toward our leadership.
If our government isn't accountable and our gigantic corporations aren't accountable, someone please tell me how saying we are the land of the free and the home of the brave isn't cheap high-ground rhetoric that serves no one, because this is most certainly not the land of the free and the home of the brave. This is the land of frightened compliance and the home of the apathetic. - nebbo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Exactly, they need to allow competition between the telecos and cable providers then we will start to see great improvements in speed and service. Otherwise the telecos and cable providers have no incentive to innovate when they are the only game in town.
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