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- JFallon126, on 07/30/2008, -3/+217Wow...the federal government actually doing something good for the Internet? Someone pinch me.
- matthias00, on 07/31/2008, -2/+107Woooo Government! Go FCC!
(Didn't think I'd ever say that..) - inactive, on 07/31/2008, -2/+61This is great news and all, but when is somebody going to go after Comcast for throttling non-Comcast VOIP?
- Wicaeed, on 07/31/2008, -3/+49Christ I can't wait for FiOS to be in my neighborhood
- and303, on 07/31/2008, -3/+47After years of lost hope, our tax dollars finally go back to work for something constructive.
- DeceasedVirus, on 07/31/2008, -2/+38"The telecom giant has predicted total bandwidth use on its network will increase by four times over the next three years."
If you know this and can Expect such a growth then expand your backbone NOW to be able to handle the bandwidth "crunch". - ZachSka87, on 07/31/2008, -0/+28.liaF
- inactive, on 07/31/2008, -2/+29Comcast has ways of sucking that haven't even been dreamed of in this dimension.
- jazzmann04, on 07/30/2008, -3/+29OK, I'll pinch ya: The article makes no mention of any fines being handed down to Comcast, so they may very well get off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
Sound fair to you? - palewook, on 07/31/2008, -0/+18once media sentry, comcast, and AT&T started throttling and/or attacking services like REV3 and Joost someone would have to answer for it. Comcast volunteered to be the whipping boy with its Rogers imitation.
- GruntboyX, on 07/31/2008, -0/+17The slippery slope we are traveling down is metered bandwidth. That personally scares me. Every time my software decides to update itself and re download its bloated install i have to account for that. I am talking about Itunes, Firefox, Windows and its numerous updates, Security products, Adobe products, the list goes on and on. The biggest hurt will be to Linux, and how distribution of the OS and maintenance of the software repositories requires a broad band connection. Would you be willing to try Linux if you were limited to 5 GB a month? Not to mention if i get a virus or some malware, that will reflect in my overages. I feel that this will cause more headaches for both sides than its worth. Not to mention the harm it could do for online content distribution systems. It would be a new model for network connectivity that would change everything about how we interact and communicate with a computer. I feel as if its taking 2 steps back and not addressing the real problem and improving endpoint data throughput.
The ship has sailed for metered bandwidth. For to long we have been entrenched with unlimited data and thus, business models and design models have taken this assumption and built around it. To go back to metered bandwidth would cause economic harm and not serve the public interest. its the FCC responsibility to rule in a manner that allows service providers to reasonably manager their networks, without disrupting the very core assumptions with how we connect to the internet. - KennMac, on 07/31/2008, -0/+16What does he have to lose? I'll take FiOS over Comcast in a heartbeat.
- cpsutcliffe, on 07/31/2008, -1/+16Oh well, here's a backwards digg just for you...
- marx2k, on 07/31/2008, -1/+15Tell that to towns served by one ISP.
- wenis, on 07/31/2008, -2/+14calm down kids with commending the FCC for stuff they havent done...they've only recognized that comcast is doing this that doesnt mean this will lead anywhere. read the article before actually commenting next time ehh?
- marx2k, on 07/31/2008, -1/+13RRIA?
- aigulf, on 07/31/2008, -1/+12Lay off them for a few days, they did a good thing.
- RocketGib, on 07/31/2008, -1/+11Did anyone notice the detail in this article that said the FCC chairman might NOT fine Comcast, even though Federal regulations were violated?
The FCC sucks at enforcing their own fines, take the Janet Jackson/CBS thing for example. CBS never really paid a dime to the FCC, because the FCC does not have any authority to force them to. - hollyminkowski, on 07/31/2008, -3/+13So glad to see these asshats slapped down for this!
- marx2k, on 07/31/2008, -1/+10That business model has nothing to do with this court case and is already being tried by several ISPs around the world.
Also, please explain how torrenting is "abusing the system". - ZachSka87, on 07/31/2008, -0/+9ggid?
- aigulf, on 07/31/2008, -1/+9How does the FISA telecom immunity relate to this? That was just for the warrant-less wiretap program. I'm as pissed about that as you are, but I don't see the relevance to this.
- secrity, on 07/31/2008, -1/+9You are right, the FCC doesn't own the airwaves, the People do. Congress, as a representative of the People, has charged the FCC with regulating the airwaves.
- awa1ct, on 07/31/2008, -0/+7***** THE FC... oh, wait...
- bjornski, on 07/31/2008, -1/+7TOTALLY different case.
The FISA junk doesn't protect them from this. - Gndoab, on 07/31/2008, -0/+6lol...where do you think you are? Slashdot?
- Elfman9, on 07/31/2008, -1/+6Maybe these companies should improve their networks to handle the additional bandwidth that they are expecting to come, instead of trying to figure out ways to stop it. The US is way behind in their network infrastructure compared to Japan and Korea.
- adml_shake, on 07/31/2008, -1/+6Well they barked, now we'll see if they have any bite when it comes to giving out their punishment.
- deadzone, on 07/31/2008, -2/+7If by "metered" you mean totally disabled uploading of torrents for their users, then yeah. The impersonated the customer and send false RST packets anytime a torrent was detected. Make it impossible for your customers to upload and it's impossible for them to download as well, since BitTorrent is based on peer-to-peer communications.
Now if only someone would go after Charter... - Residents, on 07/31/2008, -1/+6I'm happy. Comcast's service is decent in terms of what you actually get. Holy lord are the prices too high and the service too bad. Glad someone is at least getting us a bit more of what we deserve for the stinking price. Someone from Comcast had to come out to my house the other day to check the modem, we've been customers for 20 some odd years, just passed around between who bought out the cable company. We've been with Comcast since they took over our area paying too much for cable. They came to the house and took about 3 minutes to verify their signal, we found out after about 6 years our modem stopped working (all lights looked good) so I had to go buy a new modem. They tried to charge us 30 bucks just for verifying their signal in the house. Mind you the gentleman on the phone told me I'd only ever be charged if the tech had to use materials to fix my problem. --- Screw Comcast.
- nuentendu, on 07/31/2008, -1/+6Hot damn, the government doing good for the people, thought I'd be dead before I saw that.
- Pittance, on 07/31/2008, -2/+6But that would be "work"! And we know how most corporations feel about that.
- inactive, on 07/31/2008, -0/+4Far be it for a business to maintain it's own infrastructure to meet demands from a growing customer base. We do pay for it, every month when we get the bill. Get a *****' clue!
- wigren, on 07/31/2008, -1/+5This isn't about radio spectrum. It's about the FCC's other job, interstate communication. Do you really want Comcast deciding how the Internet should be used?
- GoatMonkey2112, on 07/31/2008, -1/+5I wonder if that affects legitimate torrent style downloads such as Blizzards WoW updater.
- inactive, on 07/31/2008, -0/+4Tweaking?
Seriously, this can be dealt with instantly on the ISP end. You can't tweak a switch from the client, all you can do is uncap your end.
Sounds to me like you have a bad ISP, and they are blaming "punk kids" for their last-mile problems. - earthwormzim, on 07/31/2008, -1/+5No...there are ulterior motives behind these actions...rest assured. The only reason I feel no pity for Comcast is the fact that it is a corporation. They entered into a pact with the devil (the government). And what do you get when you do business with the devil? ***** by the devil. No pity here.
Now, if Comcast was privately owned, this would constitute a blatant disregard for private property rights. In which case, I'd be vehemently opposed. - Chirp08, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3Um, the alternative is.... ?
- dupswapdrop, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3Just think of all the money an ISP could make if they let you use all the bandwidth you're paying for, didn't spy on your packets, didn't let the government spy on you and, was reasonably priced!
- vacax, on 07/31/2008, -3/+6I guess the FCC still has the ability to make one right decision in an ocean of mistakes. Now how about taking back the airwaves from corporations and rejecting mindless censorship?
- inactive, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3Better than nothing, which is what we all thought the FCC might do.
- shaggyb, on 07/31/2008, -1/+4Can you say Class Action Lawsuit?
- filldeviant, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3I've got FiOS and it's screaming fast. Supposedly Verizon will check logs of some sort, and they'll penalize you (I don't know how) if they've seen you've visited sites that contain child pornography.
Verizon has only gone offline once; it was planned. A road nearby was being worked on. The TV, Phones, and Internet is awesome, but their cellphone service is terrible- then again, what cellphone service here isn't? - mufffin, on 07/31/2008, -3/+6"if YOU'RE..."
- Linkin4, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3You know what's awesome, sweeping generalizations!!!
- stevets, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2I have read many of your comments and I must say, you sound like one angry old man. Simmer down old codger, the nurse will be in to change your diaper soon enough. In the mean time, rub some Ben Gay on that vagina of yours.
- secrity, on 07/31/2008, -1/+3None of the Federal agencies have the authority to force infringers to pay fines. Companies usually pay token fines and admit no wrongdoing so that the agency doesn't take them to civil court.
- thedragon4453, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2I have a feeling though that a lot of companies will be on our side on this one though. How much would metered bandwith hurt Netflix, Apple, Xbox Live, Amazon, etc? MS, Amazon, and Apple should be able to make something happen. I think they simply have too much invested to let internet go to a metered format. I also think that too many Americans would have a problem going to a metered format.
Hopefully what this means is that Comcast is going to have its head ripped out of its ass and they will lay some fiber. Everyone but them can see the solution.
edit: And how successful do you think Comcast will be in collecting the millions in fees incurred from things like software updates and the like? - whyufail, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2It's a torrent, so yes it did. There is a direct download option you can use, but the default method is via torrent.
- OswaldKenobi, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2Was the tech a contractor? They are notorious for trying to bilk customers out of cash.
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